shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
I have an interview tomorrow. It's a system administrator position. --- "responsible for systems management and development of our internal and client facing IT systems. " What does it usually do? Thank you for your help 7/7/2011 6:24:34 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_administrator http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/what-is-the-role-of-the-system-administrator/ http://jobsearchtech.about.com/od/careersintechnology/p/SysAdmin.htm
if you couldn't use google to get some answers, i think you might be in for some trouble tomorrow . good luck all the same.] 7/7/2011 6:26:30 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
I'm googling now. But if someone had taken the role before, it would be better. 7/7/2011 6:29:22 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
After you don't get the job can you forward me the job posting? 7/7/2011 6:42:25 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Sure. I'll post it here 7/7/2011 6:49:57 PM |
moron All American 34190 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on July 7, 2011 at 7:55 PM. Reason : ] 7/7/2011 7:53:52 PM |
moron All American 34190 Posts user info edit post |
7/7/2011 7:55:27 PM |
Shadowrunner All American 18332 Posts user info edit post |
I usually only apply to jobs that I understand, but good for you for trying to figure that out before the interview. 7/7/2011 8:23:34 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But if someone had taken the role before, it would be better." |
huh?7/7/2011 8:43:24 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
If I can meet somebody on this board who is an administrator, it will save me more time. 7/7/2011 8:55:16 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
It's an extremely generic job title, like "IT analyst" or "Systems Engineer." A systems administrator at one company will likely be a completely different job than the same title at another company.
The job description should be more telling-- i.e. whether you are qualified based on required skills and education, but ultimately you want ask a lot of specific questions about the day to day responsibilities and expectations to get a full understanding of the job.
[Edited on July 7, 2011 at 9:20 PM. Reason : .] 7/7/2011 9:19:53 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Yes,that's what I'm concerned. 7/7/2011 9:32:12 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
It's about database, sql server. 7/7/2011 9:43:20 PM |
CaelNCSU All American 7132 Posts user info edit post |
LOL. 7/7/2011 11:01:21 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
It's rescheduled to Monday. Damn, they didn't tell me beforehand. 7/8/2011 9:04:23 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Oh so you're applying for a DB admin position? No thanks. 7/8/2011 9:06:57 AM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
this will end well 7/8/2011 9:11:47 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
How about we ask the interview questions, and you post your answers ... then we can tell you whether to bother showing up or not.
1)have you EVER used a DB before? If so, please tell us what kind and for what purpose. 7/8/2011 9:12:40 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
SQL server, for storing data gathered from industrial oil field pipelines. 7/8/2011 9:39:46 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
2) Did you set it up yourself, or just query it? ... if you set it up, explain some of the decisions you made from a data architecture perspective. What best practices did you use? 7/8/2011 9:42:13 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
I just query it. But I understand how to build a database from a graduate class I took. What do you mean by "practices"? 7/8/2011 9:56:02 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
This is a joke thread, right? 7/8/2011 10:03:01 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
haha, wow. I don't know anything about any of this, but I know fail when I see it. 7/8/2011 10:10:30 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
good luck to you, sir 7/8/2011 10:21:17 AM |
FenderFreek All American 2805 Posts user info edit post |
By "best practices", he means understanding design considerations like normalization, keys, datatypes, etc. to optimize for space and lookup time.
Simply querying a DB and an academic understanding of DB design will not put you in a very good position for a DBA job, but I suppose you have to start somewhere. Ideally, you will need more than rudimentary experience with design and optimization in order to work with large, complex datasets.
[Edited on July 8, 2011 at 10:31 AM. Reason : .] 7/8/2011 10:29:57 AM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But I understand how to build a database from a graduate class I took." |
Pretty sure that isn't going to prepare you for a DB Administrator job, but good luck to you all the same.7/8/2011 10:31:55 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Database optimization is tough I think. That's what I'm worried about for this interview. 7/8/2011 10:33:24 AM |
FenderFreek All American 2805 Posts user info edit post |
No reason not to show up since you've been invited, but be prepared for many things you may not know how to answer. Unless they are specifically looking for an entry-level candidate, you will probably get a barrage of technical questions relating to design and optimization, and very little about crafting queries.
[Edited on July 8, 2011 at 10:55 AM. Reason : probably] 7/8/2011 10:55:01 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
This is which level they are looking for:
A college degree in fields related to Computer Science and/or Information Science is desired, but extensive and related work experience will be accepted. 7/8/2011 11:05:07 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
Good news is that you have all weekend.
My advice ... Read a good book on DB design, and TRY TO CREATE SOMETHING ... ANYTHING ...
At least then, you can get some of the stupid stuff out of the way and not look like an idiot. You may still not be able to answer most of their questions, but at least then you will look like you have put some effort in to learning it on your own (which is SUPER important when someone is hiring at the entry/college grad level)
Again, good luck 7/8/2011 11:32:52 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
What robster said.
Everything you see on the job description that you don't know-- spend all weekend learning as much as you can. When asked technical questions that you don't know the answer to, be honest about it but try to use what you do know to rationalize as much as you can. If you do this, it's key that you are very clear that you don't _know_ the answer, but "this" is how you imagine it should work.
I just hired a guy who had zero experience with VoIP and came from an IDS/WAN background, and had a strong interest in learning Voice. I asked him to learn everything he could about SIP over a weekend, and scheduled a technical interview with a couple of my engineers the following Monday. He spent all weekend reading up on SIP, and even set up a SIP server and some phones, plugged in wireshark and captured packets to see how things worked at the packet level. The engineers that interviewed him stated that he already knew more than several other engineers on the team.
That's the type of example you want to follow if you're serious about this. 7/8/2011 11:51:47 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
This is the technical requirement:
Experience in server configurations and processes, SQL Server 05+, SQL Server Reporting Services, SharePoint, Asp.Net and Microsoft Office are highly desired. Experience in Service Desk Express (A BMC Product) is not required, however is preferred.
I think the most important tool they require is SQL server, right? 7/8/2011 12:00:36 PM |
FenderFreek All American 2805 Posts user info edit post |
The requirements for this position sound really random. I'm curious who this is for.
SQL, Sharepoint, .Net, and Office? 7/8/2011 12:42:27 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Not sure it's *that* random... .NET and SQL go hand and hand, and pretty much everyone should know office. sharepoint is the only minorly random thing, but it's still .NET related. it's not like they asked for .NET, Java and FORTRAN 7/8/2011 12:48:01 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Is it just a random post? Maybe they already decided who to hire. 7/8/2011 12:59:01 PM |
evan All American 27701 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That's the type of example you want to follow if you're serious about this." |
exactly.7/8/2011 2:39:03 PM |
EuroTitToss All American 4790 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think the most important tool they require is SQL server, right?" |
Why? Because that's the one you're familiar with?
If you want to go by order, they listed experience with server configurations first.7/8/2011 6:19:26 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Sql server and report, this two are together. The other two, .net and sharepoint, are separated. So SQL is more important, probably. 7/8/2011 6:51:51 PM |
EuroTitToss All American 4790 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, so you've used SQL Server Reporting Services? 7/8/2011 7:19:42 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
No,never. 7/8/2011 9:04:10 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
This is the job posting
http://www.cc.gatech.edu/jobs/systems-administrator-1 7/9/2011 3:13:47 PM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is a joke thread, right?" |
7/9/2011 6:08:04 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
Learn up sql db creation etc like others in the thread have said. Show enough interest and willingness to learn, on your own over this weekend, and you probably have a ok shot at it.
Good luck. 7/10/2011 2:30:30 AM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
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[Edited on July 10, 2011 at 4:01 AM. Reason : ///] 7/10/2011 4:00:54 AM |
afripino All American 11433 Posts user info edit post |
If he gets this job, I will have lost all hope for the IT field. It's like anybody with Google and a weekend can get a system admin job now. And these companies wonder why they have so many vulnerabilities and inefficiencies.... 7/11/2011 8:10:57 AM |
Stimwalt All American 15292 Posts user info edit post |
Depends on who is hiring for the position. If it's a useless non-technical middle manager, he has a real chance. 7/11/2011 8:19:48 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
It's my alumni, a senior doing a co-op. 7/11/2011 8:57:45 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
It is sold out. They don't even notice me. It's a cheap company. 7/11/2011 11:05:19 AM |
afripino All American 11433 Posts user info edit post |
^ do you think maybe it is you and not them? you had no clue as to any of the job requirements, so why should you have been noticed? 7/11/2011 11:20:29 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
For my side, I won't apply for position I don't understand again. But they also don't have a very clear job description. 7/11/2011 11:27:56 AM |