Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
Does anyone else watch the Ancient Aliens show on the History channel (also on Netflix)? It's a great show...very interesting. I'm sure a lot of the theories proposed are bullshit, but some of them are very logical. 8/8/2011 2:12:07 PM |
settledown Suspended 11583 Posts user info edit post |
nevermind
[Edited on August 8, 2011 at 2:41 PM. Reason : n] 8/8/2011 2:24:07 PM |
screentest All American 1955 Posts user info edit post |
check out Joe Rogan Experience #125
Rogan has a lengthy conversation with Giorgio Tsoukalos, the Ancient Aliens commentator who's crazy tan with crazy hair
super interesting stuff discussed 8/8/2011 2:30:02 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I remember back when I was boy the History Channel actually showed documentaries about factual stuff. I'm gettin' old I reckon'. 8/8/2011 3:26:19 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
^^that guy cracks me up! His hair is fricking ridiculous 8/8/2011 3:28:41 PM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
That's because it was constructed using ancient astronaut technology 8/8/2011 3:31:02 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Show is awesome. The one with Mel Gibson and the guy from Gladiator was my favorite so far. 8/8/2011 3:31:48 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
This show is a litmus test for retards 8/8/2011 3:37:59 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I LOOOOVE this show. Doesn't mean I believe it. Its just fasinating and yeah, should be on SciFi channel not History channel. 9/15/2011 9:12:54 PM |
Netstorm All American 7547 Posts user info edit post |
^^God isn't that the truth.
History channel went from Ancient Tech, maybe the best show on television at the time, to this garbage.
9/16/2011 12:46:41 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe I am crazy, but most of this stuff seems more believable than religion. 9/16/2011 8:58:33 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
i really enjoy shows like this...like others, i don't necessarily believe anything in it, but i think they're fun to watch (or, rather, to keep in the background while i'm working from home) 9/16/2011 9:01:04 AM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
Isn't this guy basically ripping off the premise of the Stargate movies/tv shows? 9/16/2011 9:26:19 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
so the channel went from only covering WWII to only covering aliens?
eh. 9/16/2011 9:38:39 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
not just aliens
Nostradamus Mystery Bible Aliens 9/16/2011 9:50:33 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
The dude with the crazy hair is my favorite. 9/16/2011 12:32:21 PM |
S All American 658 Posts user info edit post |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance 9/16/2011 12:51:22 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
I'm getting dumber listening to Tsoukalos in this podcast. 9/16/2011 1:19:29 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
What's his podcast called? I gotta check that out. 9/16/2011 1:32:39 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
I'm listening to Joe Rogan #125. 9/16/2011 1:49:34 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Ahh. I just started listening to that one. 9/16/2011 1:59:57 PM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe I am crazy, but most of this stuff seems more believable than religion. 9/16/2011 4:08:42 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Maybe I am crazy, but most of this stuff seems more believable than religion." |
Bigfoot is more believable than an invisible man in the sky, but that doesn't it make it likely9/16/2011 11:48:24 PM |
joepeshi All American 8094 Posts user info edit post |
Love this show. Been watching since the beg of this year I believe. 9/17/2011 12:10:58 AM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
It's on all the time it seems. 9/17/2011 12:46:56 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I had no idea Joe Rogan was bat shit crazy. I mean. He did try to call crazy haired guy out. But he sounded like he was playing devils advocate.
Editors note. Joe Rogan is now on my "awesome people" list
[Edited on September 17, 2011 at 3:36 AM. Reason : .] 9/17/2011 3:35:40 AM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62452 Posts user info edit post |
dont forget that canadian hicks driving on ice is an important part of our history too
so is 3 generations of assholes at a pawn shop 9/17/2011 8:15:48 AM |
KInge21 All American 574 Posts user info edit post |
Ever since the Da Vinci Code craze a couple years back, this kind of "conspiracy, turn your world upside down, historic revelation" type programming has been the History channel's calling card. 9/17/2011 10:05:48 AM |
jstpack All American 2184 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ever since the Da Vinci Code craze a couple years back, this kind of "conspiracy, turn your world upside down, historic revelation" type programming has been the History channel's calling card." |
it was going on long, long before that.
They were airing In Search Of (the old Leonard Nimoy series) wayyyyyyyy back in the 90's.
That may have been when you first noticed it, but as someone who watched that shit religiously since high school, I can assure you it's been their angle for a while. (or one of)
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Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
They also used to run "Wings" all the time. (Typically WWII plane focus.) 9/17/2011 10:57:09 AM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
I actually have a History degree and I find this stuff pretty entertaining. Don't take it too seriously. 9/17/2011 11:50:21 AM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
9/17/2011 3:07:06 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
9/28/2011 12:42:22 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
lmao 9/28/2011 2:03:38 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
You can't take a crazy wackjob seriously if he doesn't look crazy 9/28/2011 6:05:13 PM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
^^^lol 9/28/2011 7:09:47 PM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ LOL 9/29/2011 8:16:15 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
They could make this show so much better if they had an opposing viewpoint on there crushing the alien arguments
I find some of the stuff they talk about interesting but usually find myself atleast 10x in every show 9/29/2011 8:26:02 AM |
KInge21 All American 574 Posts user info edit post |
Yea, I totally think this show would be far more interesting if they had the counter point to the Ancient Alien argument on there.
I am always wondering how real scientists would refute some of the stuff. 9/29/2011 9:01:27 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
as it turns out
the ancient aliens
WERE US ALL ALONG!!!!!!!!1 9/29/2011 9:13:26 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
It's pretty obvious how real scientists would respond. The fact that you qualify the other side as "real scientists" should give a good indication. 9/29/2011 9:41:18 AM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
From Wikipedia on Carl Sagan:
In their 1966 book Intelligent Life in the Universe[16] astrophysicists I.S. Shklovski and Carl Sagan devote a chapter[17] to arguments that scientists and historians should seriously consider the possibility that extraterrestrial contact occurred during recorded history. However, Shklovski and Sagan stressed that these ideas were speculative and unproven.
Shklovski and Sagan argued that sub-lightspeed interstellar travel by extraterrestrial life was a certainty when considering technologies that were established or feasible in the late '60s;[18] that repeated instances of extraterrestrial visitation to Earth were plausible;[19] and that pre-scientific narratives can offer a potentially reliable means of describing contact with outsiders.[20] Additionally, Shklovski and Sagan cited tales of Oannes, a fishlike being attributed with teaching agriculture, mathematics, and the arts to early Sumerians, as deserving closer scrutiny as a possible instance of paleocontact due to its consistency and detail.[21]
In his 1979 book Broca's Brain, Sagan[22] suggested that he and Shklovski might have inspired the wave of '70s ancient astronaut books, expressing disapproval of "von Däniken and other uncritical writers" who seemingly built on these ideas not as guarded speculations but as "valid evidence of extraterrestrial contact." Sagan argued that while many legends, artifacts, and purported out-of-place artifacts were cited in support of ancient astronaut theories, "very few require more than passing mention" and could be easily explained with more conventional theories. Sagan also reiterated his earlier conclusion that extraterrestrial visits to Earth were possible but unproven, and perhaps improbable. 9/29/2011 12:10:55 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
It's more hubris, that's all. Humans don't want to admit how insignificant they are, so they'll assume magical beings or aliens care (or cared) about us at some point. When in reality, we've only been appreciably more intelligent than other animals for 2.5 million years, homo sapiens for only 200 thousand years, widespread civilization for a few thousand years, and detectable from space for a couple hundred years.
The observable Universe is around 879,847,933,950,014,400,000,000 kilometers across and 13.7 ± 0.13 billion years old.
Even given the relative certainty that intelligent life has evolved elsewhere in the Universe, given the laughingly small amount of time we've been here combined the how freaking huge the Universe is and how old it's is it's also almost certain that they either never will make it here, have already been here long before humans existed and left, or will visit long after our species is gone if they don't just destroy themselves before ever get a chance to traverse space.
I'm all for fantasy about the topic, but attributing stonecutting and sculptures of early humans to aliens is absurd. 9/29/2011 1:43:42 PM |
craptastic All American 6115 Posts user info edit post |
Lets do something large 9/29/2011 5:08:58 PM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's more hubris, that's all. Humans don't want to admit how insignificant they are, so they'll assume magical beings or aliens care (or cared) about us at some point. " |
I don't know, I think attributing some of humanity's greatest physical achievements (Pyramids etc) to aliens is the opposite of hubris... it says that we are incapable of creating these things on our own.9/29/2011 5:17:42 PM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
I would argue that in many cases, maybe not the pyramids, but things like puma punku, humans did not have the tools or machining necessary to cut and move some of these gigantic stones. period. 9/29/2011 5:50:14 PM |
umop-apisdn Snaaaaaake 4549 Posts user info edit post |
9/30/2011 1:06:51 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't know, I think attributing some of humanity's greatest physical achievements (Pyramids etc) to aliens is the opposite of hubris... it says that we are incapable of creating these things on our own." |
Interesting point, but I still think it's people are unwilling to deal with the idea that we're alone. Maybe an extension of that then is that if we are going to go ahead and assume there are aliens/gods, then they obviously must be exceedingly powerful compare to us mere mortals.
Quote : | "I would argue that in many cases, maybe not the pyramids, but things like puma punku, humans did not have the tools or machining necessary to cut and move some of these gigantic stones. period." |
I heartily disagree. The pyramids predate these stones by thousands of years. We don't know exactly how they did it because there's no written record, but existing theories that don't involve aliens or gods are not implausbile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumapunku#Engineering9/30/2011 9:05:27 AM |
bottombaby IRL 21954 Posts user info edit post |
I watch this show all the time. Some of it is interesting, but a lot of it is .
I think that claiming aliens are responsible for all of our greatest achievements just doesn't give mankind enough credit. 9/30/2011 9:11:25 AM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qtjI8eGtvM
the original documentary...much better than the current episodes. Focuses on the main evidence and not reaching for crazy shit like a lot of the more recent episodes. 9/30/2011 4:18:07 PM |