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Apocalypse
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There is no quarter for terror

9/11/2011 4:39:35 PM

smc
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Uhhhh, no. We'll be quartering them at Guantanamo for decades. It's very expensive, in fact.

9/11/2011 5:41:22 PM

kdogg(c)
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Not decades. President Obama already shut GITMO down, just like he said he would.

9/11/2011 7:15:15 PM

Tarpon
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negative, GITMO is still in operation

9/11/2011 10:49:20 PM

Apocalypse
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sure, there's a place for suspects... but terrorists will be shown no quarter.

9/12/2011 3:10:15 AM

Wolfman Tim
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacarias_Moussaoui
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Nichols
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Rudolph
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski
Wrong

[Edited on September 12, 2011 at 7:03 AM. Reason : many other cases]

9/12/2011 7:00:28 AM

Apocalypse
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You're right... I am wrong

9/12/2011 12:20:14 PM

JCASHFAN
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Holy shit, did that ^ just happen in TSB?

9/13/2011 12:16:29 AM

Str8Foolish
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"sure, there's a place for suspects... but terrorists will be shown no quarter."


I'm pretty sure the suspects are also shown no quarter

9/19/2011 1:17:05 PM

0EPII1
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http://money.cnn.com/technology/storysupplement/cost_military_oil_addiction



http://green.autoblog.com/2011/09/11/since-911-military-paid-heavily-true-cost-of-oil/

9/22/2011 1:34:20 PM

Apocalypse
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That kind of happens man, you need resources to fight wars... to include fuel. I'm not sure what your'e getting at?

9/25/2011 7:43:58 PM

LoneSnark
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The wars were launched on behalf of oil interests to drive up the price of oil. It worked beautifully.

9/25/2011 8:33:42 PM

Apocalypse
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oh that's easy... I was there son... It wasn't about oil... but if you want to explain to me what I did or didn't see, please feel free to do so.

9/26/2011 11:09:51 AM

timswar
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There is plenty of quarter for terror. Executing terrorists only creates martyrs.

9/26/2011 12:28:19 PM

y0willy0
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we need a pigfart powered warbeast.

and/or vespane gas.

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 12:52 PM. Reason : r]

9/26/2011 12:52:00 PM

PKSebben
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gZgdlYGNJs

Never forget...Spacebat...

9/26/2011 12:58:49 PM

HUR
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9/26/2011 6:58:55 PM

mrfrog

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"That kind of happens man, you need resources to fight wars... to include fuel. I'm not sure what your'e getting at?"


Someone's gotta say it.

Nuclear power.

9/29/2011 2:24:10 PM

maximus
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you want a westinghouse 2GW rx to power a humvee?

somehow i think that's a little bit too much power for that.

9/29/2011 4:43:03 PM

Apocalypse
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Nuclear power is just that... but in the hands of destabilizing regimes and states like Iran, North Korea, etc... They become a weapon to be wielded. These nations assume that all other nations will respect them if they have a powerful enough weapon and make an example of some jackals or some shit.

9/30/2011 1:25:53 AM

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"LoneSnark
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The wars were launched on behalf of oil interests to drive up the price of oil. It worked beautifully.

9/25/2011 8:33:42 PM

Apocalypse
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oh that's easy... I was there son... It wasn't about oil... but if you want to explain to me what I did or didn't see, please feel free to do so."


9/30/2011 11:32:38 AM

Apocalypse
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I do want to ask something along the lines of this subject. I wanted to ask if anyone thought it was more important to deal with terror by killing them all as we find them? or should we capture them to put them through a trial in which we ensure they are given a form of due process?

10/3/2011 3:44:15 PM

wdprice3
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enemy combatants of foreign powers engaged in battle do not receive trials.

10/3/2011 3:46:40 PM

pack_bryan
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enemy combatants of foreign powers engaged in battle do not receive trials.

10/3/2011 3:53:00 PM

Apocalypse
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yeah... what I thought...

10/5/2011 4:06:52 AM

mrfrog

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"you want a westinghouse 2GW rx to power a humvee?

somehow i think that's a little bit too much power for that."


The DOD has actually been looking into small reactors for powering bases. No, it wouldn't run the vehicles, but combined with increased electrification it can make a big difference.

But still, if we could just export advanced nuclear reactors to the rest of the world, maybe we wouldn't be fighting wars for oil in the first place.

10/6/2011 2:28:17 PM

Apocalypse
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Actually DoD isn't looking into small reactors... That would make a military base a huge bomb if it was attacked. On top of that, DoD is actually exploring greener initiatives without the worry of radioactive plumes...

10/7/2011 1:40:00 AM

LoneSnark
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"oh that's easy... I was there son... It wasn't about oil... but if you want to explain to me what I did or didn't see, please feel free to do so."

That depends. What did you see that demonstrates conclusively that driving up the price of oil played no role what-so-ever in the decision to invade Iraq?

I realize my statement was merely an assertion, I have no evidence beyond a plausible motive and the clear effect. But I suspect whatever you believe is similarly nothing more than assertion. We might never really know all the reasons for invading Iraq. But driving down the price of oil was clearly not one of them.

[Edited on October 7, 2011 at 4:30 PM. Reason : .,.]

10/7/2011 4:29:46 PM

Apocalypse
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You asserted the the wars were about oil, and I'm telling you, I was there... It wasn't about oil. When I was there it was about finding WMD's (at the time) that was really thought to be there and toppling Sadam. After that, it was about nation building and building an enduring relationship with Iraq while hunting down all sorts of bad guys who were recruiting for terror, using the havoc to build their crime organization and brothels, and tempering the insurgency. Those bad guys wanted the chaos to endure to establish their footholds. We, along with Iraqi forces, helped prevent that as much as we could.

If you thought it was about oil, you're misinformed and extremely gullible. We wouldn't attack resources just so that the country would stop producing oil to drive prices up... If anything we would just stop trading with them without the fuss of unpopular opinion, military action (which costs a lot) and mass destruction. Not to mention hundreds of thousands of lives.

10/8/2011 6:05:31 AM

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I you think it was about finding WMDs then you, too, are misinformed and extremely gullible.

10/8/2011 11:16:26 AM

Apocalypse
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go on finish your thought. You've just said that it wasn't about finding WMD's in the beginning or it never was or something to that extent.

Now why do you think that it wasn't about finding WMDs in the beginning?

10/8/2011 4:11:53 PM

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