bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
how would each series have changed? Say Sisko, Kirk, or Picard was on Voyager..would they have gotten home sooner, not at all? Or if Janeway or Picard had handled the Dominion threat. Discuss. 9/17/2011 6:52:07 PM |
XSMP All American 16674 Posts user info edit post |
cisco didn't have a ship he had a space station yes it moved, no that doesn't makee fixee-fixee.
the storyline was all written from a moral high ground that would have prevented different outcomes. 9/17/2011 7:03:53 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
The Defiant, for all intents and purposes, was Sisko's ship.
Also, I'm not saying the ship switched places, this is talking about if Sisko had been captain of Voyager or Janeway was the commander of DS9
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XSMP All American 16674 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Message Boards » » If Star Trek captains had switched ships " |
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Steven All American 6156 Posts user info edit post |
If Picard or Sisko was Captain of Voyager, the show would have been better. I do believe they would have gotten back sooner because Janeway was a total idiot sometimes. Im going to violate the prime directive today, but not tomorrow. The only way they got home was she "violated" the prime directive. stupid whore.
Sisko was a bad ass, so if he had been in charge of the Enterprise, It would have been just as good.
As for Janeway in charge of DS9, im sure she would have just folded over for the dominion or cardassians 9/17/2011 7:14:36 PM |
XSMP All American 16674 Posts user info edit post |
Cisco was too 'brave' and would have lost the ship several times over BEFORE 7 of 9 came aboard. Janeway would have gotten the Enterprise destroyed several times within the first 4 seasons and would have lost against the Borg early in the game. Picard would have run DS9 fine, but Voyager was a family ship sort of - he hated kids, remember? 9/17/2011 7:22:01 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
If Sisko or Kirk was captain of Voyager, I'm sure he would have used the Caretaker array to send them home the first day. If Picard had been captain, they probably would have destroyed the array, but they wouldn't have pissed off every race in the Delta Quadrant and gotten home sooner, especially when Q gave them the option. Archer would have gotten captured and beat up by the Kazon.
Picard would have probably managed to prevent the war with the Dominion but would have refused to act as the Emissary. 9/17/2011 7:23:58 PM |
XSMP All American 16674 Posts user info edit post |
he acted as emissary several times, he'd have done that no problem...and FUCK ARCHER AND FUCK :ENTERPRISE 9/17/2011 7:29:31 PM |
dharney All American 4445 Posts user info edit post |
my favorite part of star trek was the aliens 9/17/2011 7:39:09 PM |
GreatGazoo All American 714 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "my favorite part of star trek was the aliens" |
This was Kirk's take on it as well.9/17/2011 8:04:26 PM |
XSMP All American 16674 Posts user info edit post |
and Archer's and Riker's and Tom Paris's and Harry Kim's and Wesley Crusher's and LaForge's and Troy's 9/17/2011 8:17:40 PM |
CheesyLabia Suspended 926 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czEXZH_HOFo&feature=related 9/17/2011 8:22:54 PM |
XSMP All American 16674 Posts user info edit post |
^not worth clicking 9/17/2011 9:38:33 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
If sisko was in charge of voyager his ass would have gotten back to alpha quadrant in the pilot via the caretaker array.
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GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
later, okampa 9/18/2011 12:34:52 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
i mean they only live for like 8 years. neelix was a pederass by the way.
8-year olds dude. 9/18/2011 12:55:14 AM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
9/18/2011 1:33:53 AM |
CheesyLabia Suspended 926 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^not worth clicking" |
nerds are funny when they are serious9/18/2011 8:33:26 AM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
Kirk would have run shit in every single series.
Everyone else is a tossup. 9/18/2011 11:47:25 AM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
The best choice is obviously Han Solo. 9/18/2011 3:01:51 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
kirk would have fucked so many things when he devolved
[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 3:23 PM. Reason : not that that's necessarily much different from evolved kirk] 9/18/2011 3:23:22 PM |
Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
This is truly a fascinating discussion
I'm Krallum and I approved this message 9/18/2011 4:03:36 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
the freaks nerds come out at night 9/18/2011 4:05:23 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
All of the Captains, except for Archer would have held their own.
Archer plain sucks. 9/18/2011 5:13:08 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but Voyager was a family ship sort of" |
wat? And Enterprise D wasn't? They had more kids and wife's on that ship than Voyager.9/18/2011 5:19:48 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
What kind of scumbag put families on a military ship and then sends it into combat situations. 9/18/2011 5:42:52 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
that's just it, it wasn't a military ship, Starfleet never had dedicated warships (except for the Defiant). They were mainly deep space exploration ships. 9/18/2011 5:55:57 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
^starfleet is most definitely military, and although the the ships were on missions of peace and exploration, they were definitely built with battle as a primary capability.
the defiant class ships on the other hand were built solely as warships. 9/18/2011 6:31:06 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
other than the last season of the show, how in the hell was Voyager a family ship? There were no kids until Naomi Wildman was born and then when those Borg children came on board. Other than that it was nothing at all like a family ship. 9/18/2011 6:33:35 PM |
dustm All American 14296 Posts user info edit post |
I've got a deep-face exploration ship...
But seriously I do enjoy reading this thread. Though I have very little to add to it since I have not watched any star track in a long, long time 9/18/2011 6:36:04 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
^^exactly. 9/18/2011 7:38:00 PM |
XSMP All American 16674 Posts user info edit post |
i'm just saying that picard would have hated borg children running around, or little rhino girls (I know, she turned out hot but w/e)...wesley and alexander were too much for picard...they only did like 2 other kid episodes (picard became a child, and using kids to take back the ship).
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BubbleBobble Super Duper Veteran 114376 Posts user info edit post |
cool arguments ITT 9/18/2011 8:01:46 PM |
XSMP All American 16674 Posts user info edit post |
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dinoantncsu Collector of Gnomes 422 Posts user info edit post |
haha, im too nervous to reply. I've only just completed voyager. 9/18/2011 9:22:33 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Picard's entire fucking ship was full of children. Good fucking god man. 9/18/2011 9:26:59 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
I mean Enterprise D had a daycare...
Quote : | "starfleet is most definitely military, and although the the ships were on missions of peace and exploration, they were definitely built with battle as a primary capability." |
That's true. They were a peacekeeping armada, but exploration and advancement of science was their primary focus. I'd say they were like a mixture of the UN and a scientific institution. Even low level crewmen had to perform some sort of scientific or mathematical studies.
Their ships main capability wasn't intended for battle, it's just the fact that they were capable of defending themselves pretty good. Otherwise, we would have seen more advancements armour, high tech shielding and high yield weapon technologies. I mean every time some starfleet vessel gets into battle, bulkheads fall down easily, debris flies around and plasma conduits always seem to explode in front of crewman #7. You'd think a military vessel that is capable of taking some volleys would be more resilient then that.9/19/2011 12:53:15 AM |
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bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Picard's time was really the height of the Federation in terms of peace. There were no real ongoing wars. Kirk had the ever present cold war threat of the Klingons, Sisko had the Dominion War, Janeway was just lost, and Archer was trying to make a name for the Federation. There was no real reason not to have a ship with families. 9/19/2011 3:50:08 PM |
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I love threads like this] 9/19/2011 3:52:16 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
^^not including the 29th century... 9/19/2011 4:36:05 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
If I was going to have families on a ship, that ship would also have a strict non-engagement policy. I can understand having them on a strictly science vessel, but if shooting is every a remote possibility beyond rare self-defense situations, they don't belong.
"I know, lets grab the wife and kids and flex nuts with the Romulans along the neutral zone!" 9/19/2011 4:47:22 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
That's why they had the saucer separation, however it cost way too much for the cgi to do it. 9/19/2011 4:49:21 PM |
zifnab Veteran 384 Posts user info edit post |
That is a bad-ass ship.
9/19/2011 4:59:00 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
which enterprise was the giant dragonfly ship with the janitor and the stripper? 9/19/2011 5:37:33 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
Lexx? 9/19/2011 6:08:05 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
Not a fan of lexx. 9/19/2011 8:32:58 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
yeah that enterprise sucked 9/19/2011 8:34:47 PM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
lexx is ok-- for me it is slow going though, because of the formulaic nature of the show. also, i do not find stanley tweedle remotely likeable, and i got pissed when they switched zev. 9/19/2011 8:51:11 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
set em up 9/19/2011 9:04:06 PM |