ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
| NC State (2-1, 0-1) | | | vs | | | Cincinnati (2-1) | |
| Thursday, September 22th, 8:00pm TV: ESPN & ESPN 3D Also available on ESPN3 |
Cincinnati results to date: Austin Peay W 72-10 @ Tennessee L 45-23 Akron W 59-14
GO STATE!9/19/2011 1:02:04 AM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
9/19/2011 1:04:44 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
doesn't look promising. 9/19/2011 1:04:56 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
9/19/2011 1:14:07 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
line opened with State getting 7 9/19/2011 1:26:32 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
9/19/2011 1:33:42 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Shit pushed in 9/19/2011 1:35:28 AM |
elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
We couldn't score 72 on an open field.
Dancing L? 9/19/2011 1:48:07 AM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.gobearcats.com
they have a big black out planned 9/19/2011 5:42:17 AM |
jsausley All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
We lose this one unless miracle. 9/19/2011 6:53:00 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
31,000 screaming inbreds
shit....I know it was against lowly Austin Peay, but 387 rushing yards??!?!
[Edited on September 19, 2011 at 7:31 AM. Reason : d] 9/19/2011 7:23:23 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Cincy = 48 State = 31
Glennon will put up big numbers again, but State's lack of a defensive line will allow the Bearcats to rape us repeatedly with big plays. Archer will not change a thing and we will continue to suck dick putting zero pressure on the QB. An embarrassing loss on national TV. 9/19/2011 7:45:14 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
9/19/2011 8:18:31 AM |
CHunter2 All American 579 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 19, 2011 at 8:23 AM. Reason : .]
9/19/2011 8:21:32 AM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
Go Wolpfack. 9/19/2011 8:35:20 AM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
iop1. also can't believe the cinci tits haven't made an appearance yet. 9/19/2011 8:40:32 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
let's go
9/19/2011 8:42:07 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
dancing L 9/19/2011 9:05:16 AM |
pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
I will be there, and I will be angry when we miss tackles, put no pressure on the QB and allow >400 yards rushing. 9/19/2011 9:13:00 AM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
**Fingers crossed for Rieskamp's return this week** 9/19/2011 9:31:38 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Any word on Manning? Heard he went out in the USA game, but some thought it was just back spasms. 9/19/2011 9:34:41 AM |
HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
2 2 2 losses for the Wolfpack 9/19/2011 9:35:54 AM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^ there's no bed to shit when you are the shittier team already.
NCSU 23 CINC 38 9/19/2011 9:36:35 AM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
It's sad to me that we all know that we're going to get butt-raped on defense, and we also know Archer isn't going to do a GD thing about it. When we go 4-8 (if we're lucky), TOB better fire Archer's ass, or he needs to start packing his shit with them. 9/19/2011 9:38:07 AM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
You know we had one of the top defenses (at least against the run) in the nation last year, right? Why is everyone on Archer's nuts? we're also missing like 1/4 of our starting defense. Archer is doing the best he can with the players on our team who don't have broken feet.
Give him a break. 9/19/2011 9:45:03 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Rieskamp's going to be back, right? He's been "questionable" the last two games.
When is Sweezy, Teal, and Mustafa coming back? 9/19/2011 9:54:46 AM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
fine, i'll do it. These need to be on page 1...
9/19/2011 9:56:53 AM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
^^ not until he changes our zone secondary.
good teams play man coverage. he must know we suck or doesn't give a shit.
[Edited on September 19, 2011 at 9:58 AM. Reason : .] 9/19/2011 9:58:15 AM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
I don't mind the zone coverage. Sure, it looks bad and gets exposed when you don't pressure the QB and give him all day to sit back and make throws. But man coverage is too dangerous. All it takes is one mistake and you get burned for a long TD. At least in zone, your teammates can cover you and help out if you're out of position.
We need out D-linemen back badly. 9/19/2011 10:19:43 AM |
classy_J Veteran 233 Posts user info edit post |
We can do this! GO PACK!! 9/19/2011 10:23:20 AM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
Well, the problem is that we don't have our dline right now and without it we aren't getting any pressure on the QB. Archer needs to adapt, that's all I'm asking. Try running some different base sets, different blitzing patterns, maybe throw in some man or switch to it entirely. We just need to try and confuse the offense a little. If all we do is "stick to our guns" as we get raped up and down the field then that is just beyond idiotic. To me it comes across as lazy to me. 9/19/2011 10:24:07 AM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
this will be ugly 9/19/2011 10:33:37 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
9/19/2011 10:43:06 AM |
AC Slater All American 9276 Posts user info edit post |
IBTLoss 9/19/2011 10:58:35 AM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ that is a must (to change schemes)
just go and watch some game film. most qb's are going to just watch the tape and see when our zone transitions occur and pick it apart like mad when in that 'zone transition' split second.
it was really funny seeing them go 5 wideouts on us all those times (south alabama)
we were trying to zone that, AND rush the qb with 5. almost laughable seeing 2 receivers wide open on those plays on our 5 on 5 'zone' 9/19/2011 11:19:57 AM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
if mike archer is gone after this year...frank spaziani will be our DC next year (assuming he gets fired from BC..definitely on that path)
[Edited on September 19, 2011 at 11:23 AM. Reason : asdf] 9/19/2011 11:21:58 AM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
^ i'll take it (he'll probably beat us this year and get O'brien as his QB coach ) oh man..
i'm not really feeling it. except for bottom row #3/#4
this is more like it....
[Edited on September 19, 2011 at 11:27 AM. Reason : .] 9/19/2011 11:23:53 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "there's no bed to shit when you are the shittier team already." |
it's been one big bed shit for the season so far.9/19/2011 11:25:49 AM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
the bad news is: "Derek Wolfe, DT, Cincinnati. Had two sacks and forced a fumble that was returned 54 yards for a touchdown in a 59-14 win against Akron."
the other bad news is:
"Cincinnati defense. Cincinnati keeps creating the turnovers in a big way. In their 59-14 win over Akron, the Bearcats became the first Big East team to score three defensive touchdowns since Miami scored on two interceptions and one fumble against West Virginia in a 41-10 victory on Sept. 23, 2000. The Bearcats' six forced turnovers are the most since forcing seven against Oregon State on Sept. 6, 2007. "
i'm not buying it. i say we expose their D to be about as bad as ours is. they haven't played a real team yet. 9/19/2011 11:37:33 AM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
cinci leads FBS w/ 13 TO on Defense...we are like 3rd or 4th w/ 11 TOs on Defense 9/19/2011 11:40:22 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Tennessee hung 45 on them...almost doubled the score (45-23). Just looking at the boxscore, Cincy recovered 2 fumbles that game and 0 interceptions. Gave up over 500 yards. I haven't seen Cincy play this year, but just looking at that game, I'm not sold on their D being that great. 9/19/2011 11:43:52 AM |
tommy wiseau All American 2624 Posts user info edit post |
TOB: not credible 9/19/2011 11:47:48 AM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that is a must (to change schemes)" |
It's not that simple. Assuming Archer is keeping us in zone because he knows we don't have the speed back there to run man to man, there's not a lot you can do without leaving gaping holes somewhere else.
you rush more guys, you thin out an already shaky secondary.
You rush fewer guys, you get even less eventual pressure on the QB
you play with the zones, you only force your defensive backs to learn more zone coverages, but you don't really solve any problems without pressure on the QB.
you back off some, they throw underneath all day
you try to play them up, one of them burns you for an 80 yard touchdown pass
Just throwing defensive schemes out there doesn't help our guys get better at the defense we're trying to run.
What we need are our players back. Until we get them, we just have to do our best to limit their big plays, and make them really work for the scores they get. Until then we're just going to have to suck it up.9/19/2011 11:56:13 AM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Terrell Manning to undergo knee surgery today - will miss Cincinnati game." |
9/19/2011 12:03:58 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
^Damn...that sucks. Is that the only game he'll miss...or we don't know yet? 9/19/2011 12:05:34 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
LOL. This season has gone downhill so fast it is like watching the luge.
Quote : | "they haven't played a real team yet." |
Tennessee does not count as a real team apparently. Also UT has a superior offense to us so do not expect us to put up 500 yards.
This is going to be a bad game. Maybe not as bad as USF a few years back, but Cincy will score at will. Big East revenge on shitty old NC State.9/19/2011 12:10:33 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Wow, I hope Dwayne Maddox has improved a lot. Gonna need him to not suck Thursday 9/19/2011 12:19:58 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Shiiiit. Coming into the season, I thought we we had about an average number of injuries. Now it's starting to get a little ridiculous, it seems they're all happening to key players. 9/19/2011 12:21:40 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
mustafa greene jr sweezy terrell manning jeff rieskamp
we just need to lose tj graham or glennon and it's 2006 all over again. 9/19/2011 1:04:52 PM |
Motiak All American 1498 Posts user info edit post |
It'd be nice if Jarvis Byrd's ACLs worked as well. 9/19/2011 1:07:08 PM |