lol that chart is retarded, did they seriously put ecstasy at the bottom and weed in the middle??

10/8/2013 12:28:54 PM

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"by FAR. it certainly won't kill you, but like i said, i would be concerned if my son/daughter were high all the time and bragging about it. shows a real lack of maturity and the ability to control yourself"

High? I thought you were talking about alcohol here.

Also it appears you agree with Miley on that point:

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""I think alcohol is way more dangerous than marijuana--people can be mad at me for saying that, but I don't care," she said. "I've seen a lot of people spiral down with alcohol, but I've never seen that happen with weed.""

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 12:31 PM. Reason : moar]

10/8/2013 12:29:43 PM

i'd be more concerned if my kid was drunk all the time as opposed to constantly being stoned (on weed)

but again, that chart doesn't seem to make much sense

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 12:31 PM. Reason : ]

10/8/2013 12:30:45 PM

^ same

10/8/2013 12:31:20 PM

^and I still would rather a kid of mine be high or drunk than popping mollys/MDMA/whatever you want to call it, on a regular basis



[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 12:34 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2013 12:33:21 PM

I'd rather just not have children that I have to worry about

10/8/2013 12:34:24 PM

^ well duh

10/8/2013 12:34:59 PM

Ehh I think MDMA can have psychological effects that I wouldn't wanna be doing all the time. Every once in a while maybe.. Not frequently

10/8/2013 12:35:07 PM

^^^^ eesh I don't know about a regular/long term basis

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 12:36 PM. Reason : ]

10/8/2013 12:35:12 PM

i edited my post. i meant weed.

and yes, i too, would be more concerned if my kid was drunk all the time. or stoned all the time. or brain dead from rolling every weekend.

but i still stand by the fact that alcohol is the worst of the three. it impairs your judgment the most and it's socially acceptable to abuse the ever living fuck out of it. MDMA (not 'molly') eventually stops working if you do it too often, and too much at once isn't a fun experience.

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 12:39 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2013 12:35:25 PM

Holy shit, you people got old.

No wonder we can't legalize the drugs.

10/8/2013 12:40:03 PM

what are you talking about? i'm one of the biggest proponents of legalizing EVERYTHING you'll ever meet. we should still teach people responsible use/moderation though.

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 12:43 PM. Reason : derp]

10/8/2013 12:41:23 PM

yeah, not sure where that came from. one reason we can't legalize drugs is that too many people don't know how to use them responsibly and get dependent upon them (well, not really, but that's why a lot of normal citizens are against the legalization of it)

10/8/2013 12:43:18 PM

I dunno. For people who want to legalize drugs, y'all are awful concerned about some girl who says it's fun to take ecstasy and dance.

10/8/2013 12:52:11 PM

i never said that. i said that if i were her parent and found out she had done coke, i'd be somewhat concerned.

are all of you high right now? i swear people don't read:

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"i mean weed isn't a big deal to me, and MDMA isn't THAT big of a deal, but she's admitted to doing cocaine. she's 20 and coke is a pretty hard drug. from my experience, experimentation can turn into addiction/abuse pretty quickly, especially if you're rich and around people who aren't there to protect you. I'd be somewhat concerned if i were her parent, wouldn't you? doing drugs is one thing, but bragging about it to the world also isn't the smartest thing to do..."

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 12:54 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2013 12:53:47 PM

yeah, but you're not her parent. we're not her parents. We're neutral observers making comments about a 20 year old celebrity pop star. Nothing she is doing is radically different from hundreds of others around her and that have come before her.

Other than saying she likes to smoke weed, she has not done anything that is a clear indicator she "needs to get her shit together." Again, I've read interviews with her and she seems to be very aware of what she's doing and the importance of it to her brand. And it's definitely working.

10/8/2013 12:59:43 PM

I don't give a shit if all of this gets legalized, that doesn't mean I don't think people are morons for doing them.

^^^ you are right, back to the point, who cares what she said about some drug anyway?

I thought we all knew by now that rich celebrities are on 3 different drugs at any one time





[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 1:01 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2013 12:59:51 PM

who the hell are you to call other people morons for using drugs responsibly? abuse/addiction are one thing, but plenty of people can use drugs responsibly and have zero problems.

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 1:03 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2013 1:02:19 PM

I am allowed to think whatever I want, thanks.


but again, I really could not care less what drugs people do. I imagine there are plenty of people who can use all of those drugs listed responsibly, that doesn't mean I think it's a good idea.

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 1:07 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2013 1:03:29 PM

oh, but i think you do, which is why you call them 'morons', which implies some pretty harsh judgment. if they lead meaningful/productive lives and like to get high every now and then, why is that inherently a bad thing? how is it different than enjoying a drink?

but yeah, think whatever you want.

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"Other than saying she likes to smoke weed, she has not done anything that is a clear indicator she "needs to get her shit together." Again, I've read interviews with her and she seems to be very aware of what she's doing and the importance of it to her brand. And it's definitely working."

it may be working now, but it's not going to be cute/entertaining/controversial in 5-10 years when she's still bragging about how awesome weed and molly are. that's what i meant by "getting her shit together"- her image of an outrageous 20 year old.



[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 1:10 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2013 1:07:19 PM

if a friend said "you wanna try this molly or MDMA?" I would tell them they are a moron, I have my reasons


otherwise I don't give a fuck, and I sure won't waste time to vote against it. I use the term moron pretty loosely.

10/8/2013 1:10:32 PM

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"it may be working now, but it's not going to be cute/entertaining/controversial in 5-10 years when she's still bragging about how awesome weed and molly are. that's what i meant by "getting her shit together"- her image of an outrageous 20 year old."

but she isn't 30

and anyways weed and mdma ARE awesome

10/8/2013 1:10:49 PM

^^you've obviously never tried it and have pretty strong opinions about it. that's fine, but i could easily call you a moron for not trying new things and believing all the negative hype/danger around it. i wouldn't do that though.

^ no shit. all i said was that if the drug use escalates (which is a big IF), then she will either wind up in rehab/dead or tone it down a notch like most people do. partying like a 20 year old gets old after a while, does it not?

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 1:14 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2013 1:12:08 PM

funny, I never stated what drugs I have or have not tried.

since you assumed, I will go ahead and tell you I have. Not a fan, and not particularly fond of the people that surrounded it. I felt like they were morons. THAT IS MY OPINION

10/8/2013 1:13:49 PM

that's a bad opinion though because loads of intelligent people smoke weed

those particular people were just dumb

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 1:14 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2013 1:14:22 PM

I was talking about ecstasy^, so now I'm confused

10/8/2013 1:15:01 PM

maybe the people around you that were doing it WERE morons because they gave you bunk shit, which is why you didn't like it? labeling EVERYONE a moron is what i had a problem with.

10/8/2013 1:15:46 PM

you can have a problem if you like. I can call them morons if I like.

10/8/2013 1:16:22 PM

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"I was talking about ecstasy^, so now I'm confused"

o whoops

well you're sort of right, but it still isn't only for morons. and it doesn't turn you into a moron (permanently at least)

10/8/2013 1:17:50 PM

weren't you the chick that had somebody slip a molly into your drink, unknowingly? or am i thinking of someone else?

if that's the case, then yeah, that guy was a moron/piece of shit- so were his friends for letting him get near you. and it would've probably killed my roll too



[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 1:20 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2013 1:18:32 PM

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"but it still isn't only for morons. and it doesn't turn you into a moron (permanently at least)"

I don't think it turns people into morons, and I don't think only morons use it.... I said I used the term moron loosely, because if anyone I care at all about wants to always use x around me, I may call them a moron even if they are a genetic engineering genius or aerospace rocket scientist etc or whatever

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"weren't you the chick that had somebody slip a molly into your drink, unknowingly? or am i thinking of someone else?"

lol, ummmm. no, definitely someone else. But that sounds kind of shitty. I think that is an asshole thing to do, but that is a separate issue

I tried it a few times, once or twice it was sort of fun, but my anxiety definitely increased during the peak "rolling". I never let anyone know if I wasn't having fun, that is just how I feel




[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 1:28 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2013 1:21:16 PM

ah ok. i definitely remember somebody posting that it happened to them. my bad.

10/8/2013 1:24:55 PM

this thread is hilarious.

we dont know this girl from pine straw and we have moral judgements about her.

10/8/2013 1:41:55 PM

i've seen pictures and videos and performances

10/8/2013 1:43:39 PM

actually, several of us aren't really judging her. in fact, all i was saying is how i'd react if i were her parents and that this image will difficult to maintain in the long run. i think it's great that she's laughing all the way to the bank, but i hope she has her wits about her.

10/8/2013 1:45:23 PM

her Mom is her damn manager and she doesn't give a shit. just dont die.

10/8/2013 1:48:59 PM

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 1:51 PM. Reason : ]

10/8/2013 1:51:30 PM

great manager, SHITTY mom. now there's judgement for ya

10/8/2013 1:54:03 PM

so this guy is a pervert?
http://jezebel.com/5495699/exclusive-more-models-come-forward-with-allegations-against-fashion-photographer

10/8/2013 8:53:45 PM

guys, heroin isn't that big of a deal

10/8/2013 9:19:44 PM

Bullshit chart, I chewed Qat the whole time I was overseas and I pretty much only hurt other people.

10/8/2013 9:29:11 PM

Let's do an experiment

I'll drink a 12 pack every day for a month

You pop a molly every day for a month

We'll see who has more long term damage

10/8/2013 10:29:26 PM

^^^^ shit it worked for j caldwell

10/8/2013 10:49:12 PM

lol

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"Before I could say 'whoa, whoa, whoa!' dude was wearing only his tattoos and waggling the biggest dick I'd ever seen dangerously close to my unclothed person"

10/8/2013 10:49:37 PM

you call his huge? meh...

10/8/2013 10:57:10 PM

People see Miley as a child

10/8/2013 11:48:33 PM

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"Let's do an experiment I'll drink a 12 pack every day for a month You pop a molly every day for a month We'll see who has more long term damage"

How much MDMA is in the "molly"? A standard dose is about .150 g. I'm guessing if you did it every single day for a month your serotonin receptors would be fried and you'd be depressed as fuck, but you wouldn't really roll after a week. it would probably just be like taking an adderall or something, and you'd just feel speedy effects and no euphoria

How strong is the 12pack? If it's IPA, that would be getting blackout drunk every day, depending on your weight/tolerance, and you'd have a pretty strong physical tolerance by the end of the month. I'd imagine some people would go into DTs if they're small enough. If it's miller lite, I'd wager the impact would be lessened substantially, just as if the dosage of MDMA were higher it might lead to permanent brain damage.

In either case, you'd be doing long term damage to your body. I'd say you'd be way more emotionally/mentally fucked up by the MDMA, but the booze would really do a number on your liver and cause you to gain a lot of weight.

10/9/2013 12:23:04 AM

I've done E a few times in college, none in years, and I don't have any long term effects that I'm aware of

But I know people who rolled a LOT very frequently and some of them just can't really get elated about stuff anymore, years and years later

Whereas I've gotten drunk thousands of times and I still enjoy it...but sure I guess my liver might be a little more torn up than somebody who rolls all the time

So basically, I think that chart has some problems

10/9/2013 12:31:12 AM

In either case, I think it helps to start out smart with at least a mostly developed brain.

Corey Haim never stood a chance.

10/9/2013 1:02:41 AM

paging face

10/9/2013 1:20:48 PM