Who cares if gays get married, people shouldn't impose their beliefs on others thru some bullshit law, this ain't talibanland. It's as if supporters of anti-gay marriage laws are scared of gays or something...i dont get it...

Anyways, urban dictionary will become the dictionary of the future....

4/27/2012 5:18:05 PM

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"2) it's not bigoted to restate the qualifications for a given benefit as being limited to the actual definition of the word being used to state the qualification, namely marriage, especially when others have been attempting to redefine the the word to suit their own purposes."

So change the fucking definition of the word?

You really want me to believe that some right-wing hick whose vocabulary contains "dadgum" should have the right to be concerned with the dictionary definition of "marriage"?

4/27/2012 6:40:42 PM

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"I know that most of the civilized world accepts same-sex unions defined as marriage"

Actually, they don't.

ibtneverendingdebateonthedefinitionofcivilizedworld

4/27/2012 6:46:21 PM

Separate but equal.

4/27/2012 7:20:20 PM

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"Who cares if gays get married, people shouldn't impose their beliefs on others thru some bullshit law, this ain't talibanland."

i wasn't aware that anyone was having their beliefs imposed on anyone else regarding homosexuality through the gov't. Where are the gallows for homosexuals again? right, they don't exist.

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"So change the fucking definition of the word?"

or change the law directly and don't sneak shit in through the back door.

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"You really want me to believe that some right-wing hick whose vocabulary contains "dadgum" should have the right to be concerned with the dictionary definition of "marriage"?"

so, only people you deem worthy should be able to vote. thanks! basically what you are saying is that people should only be able to vote the way you want and only on what you want. If the definition is a concern to joe bumfuck, fine. But, that the definition of words in law should matter is something I think everyone can appreciate. Otherwise, the law is meaningless if we can just change shit without actually voting on it.

4/27/2012 8:55:53 PM

Well I didn't mean legal right, I meant more

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"whose vocabulary contains "dadgum" should have the right to be concerned with the dictionary definition of "marriage"?"

But while we're at it, sure. Why should joe bumfuck prevent jane lesbian from marrying jenny lesbian with a vote because his religion called fucking 3rd grade dibs on the "marriage" dictionary entry hundreds of years ago?

So you are in agreement with the thread title yes? thanks!

[Edited on April 28, 2012 at 12:33 AM. Reason : .]

4/28/2012 12:26:05 AM

Meh, if homosexual marriage isn't allowed, I don't think divorce should be allowed either. You know, for the sanctity of marriage.

4/28/2012 1:48:49 AM

aaronburro, any response to the point that gay marriage is already illegal and all this amendment will really do is void a hundred thousand heterosexual marriages?

4/28/2012 1:51:46 AM

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"Meh, if homosexual marriage isn't allowed, I don't think divorce should be allowed either. You know, for the sanctity of marriage."

Get this logical shit the fuck out of here

4/28/2012 2:35:38 AM

This isn't really a troll thread because the bigots expressing support for the amendment actually believe what they are saying.

This is just a sad thread.

4/28/2012 8:27:53 AM

Of course Speaker Tillis, who is responsible for pushing this amendment, just had his Chief of Staff resign for having an affair with a lobbyist. When Tllis was asked about it he responded by saying "An individual's personal life should remain personal...". Oh the hypocrisy

4/28/2012 8:41:35 AM

The homosexual community shouldn't be marginalized because religious people are terrified. But I mean, I am a bigot. I'm bigoted against religious people, so take what I say with a grain of salt, it comes from a place of hate.

4/28/2012 9:54:34 AM

aaronburro, your arguments remind me of the "separate but equal" arguments of the past

4/28/2012 11:41:37 AM

suck it.

4/28/2012 11:58:22 AM

I like how the TV ad in favor of this prominently features the Bible.

Where are the vote against TV ads???

4/28/2012 12:32:48 PM

haha aaronburro continues to be a piece of shit excuse for a human.

4/28/2012 10:22:26 PM

^^I heard part of one this evening, but didn't actually see it (was in the kitchen). It talked about how a lady's kids were going to lose their health benefits because of the amendment, but I didn't catch much else.

4/29/2012 1:18:11 AM

Government should be concerned with marriage exclusively to the extent that children are involved, because government has a responsibility to the next generation just like we all do. These "benefits" associated with marriage and not family are not defensible.

And you can outlaw gay families after you fix our foster care system.

4/29/2012 2:38:35 AM

Friend on facebook just posted some photos supporting Amendment 1.

What's sad is she's a single mother and clearly has no idea how this amendment could affect her child.

What's sadder is I know trying to talk sense into her is pointless.

4/30/2012 12:20:52 AM

Quote :

"Who cares if gays get married, people shouldn't impose their beliefs on others thru some bullshit law, this ain't talibanland. It's as if supporters of anti-gay marriage laws are scared of gays or something...i dont get it... "

Not seeing the purpose of having same-sex marriage just for tax breaks. What's that? a measly 200 or so bucks extra a year?

Dudes can wear rings and live together... no one's stopping them. Women can do it too.

Am I missing something?

4/30/2012 4:58:06 AM

As a Conservative Catholic...I can't vote for this.

4/30/2012 1:13:17 PM

So vote against it

4/30/2012 2:41:33 PM

It's pretty simple. Church leaders need a Boogieman to stir up the masses and keep them from questioning their doctrines. In this case, it's gay marriage. It's easy to pick on a small minority that most of these people do not knowingly associate with.

It just amazes me that more people don't realize what issues like this are actually motivated by.

4/30/2012 3:11:17 PM

guess blaming the jews has gotten old

[Edited on April 30, 2012 at 3:23 PM. Reason : .]

4/30/2012 3:23:19 PM

^Exactly

4/30/2012 3:28:55 PM

If the amendment was just banning gay marriage, supporters might almost have a point. Maybe. Not really.

This amendment is way more fucked up. It says that the only legal domestic partnership is a marriage between a man and a woman. If this passes, and I'm worried it will, it will be a black mark on the state of North Carolina. What a disgrace that this is even being considered in 2012.

4/30/2012 3:47:07 PM

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""Marriage between one man one woman non homo sapiens is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State. This section does not prohibit a private party from entering into contracts with another private party; nor does this section prohibit courts from adjudicating the rights of private parties pursuant to such contracts.""

There we go... need to make sure that no homos can get married! Take that you damn dirty homo sapiens!

5/1/2012 4:39:58 AM

It seems people often refer to Leviticus 18:22 in the Bible when it comes to homosexuality, yet they ignore the other portions, such as Leviticus 25:44, which states you may possess slaves both male and female so long as they are from neighboring nations. If you claim to be following "God's Law" can you be this selective? If not are Canadians in trouble here?

5/1/2012 11:13:05 AM

Old Testament only counts when it supports their argument, duh.

5/1/2012 11:55:56 AM

Well, according to you, it says they may have slaves, not that they must. We can outlaw bad behavior even if the bible says it is okay.

5/1/2012 12:25:24 PM

Some things that are banned or not allowed in the Bible:

Round haircuts. Leviticus 19:27: "You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard."

Football, where you play with a pigskin (old school) or eat pork. Leviticus 11:8: "You shall not eat of their flesh nor touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you."

Fortune telling, fortune cookies...anything of the sort! Leviticus 19:31: "Do not turn to mediums or spiritists; do not seek them out to be defiled by them. I am the Lord your God." Lecticus 20:6: "As for the person who turns to mediums and to spiritists, to play the harlot after them, I will also set My face against that person and will cut him off from among his people."

No tattoos. Leviticus 19:28: "You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the Lord."

Polyester or any fabric blends. Leviticus 19:19: "You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together."

Letting people without testicles into church is not allowed... whether the person has been castrated or lost a ball or two to cancer. Deuteronomy 23:1: "A man whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off may never join the assembly of the Lord."

If you're a bastard, the child of a bastard... or even have a great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchild of a bastard, you can't come to church...you bastard! Deuteronomy 23:2: "No one of illegitimate birth shall enter the assembly of the Lord; none of his descendants, even to the tenth generation, shall enter the assembly of the Lord."

Lobster, shrimp and all shellfish are BANNED! Leviticus 11:10: "But whatever is in the seas and in the rivers that does not have fins and scales among all the teeming life of the water, and among all the living creatures that are in the water, they are detestable things to you."

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"Leviticus 11 bans a TON of animals from being eaten (it's THE basis for Kosher law); beyond shellfish and pig, it also says you can't eat camel, rock badger, rabbit, eagle, vulture, buzzard, falcon, raven, crow, ostrich, owl, seagull, hawk, pelican, stork, heron, bat, winged insects that walk on four legs unless they have joints to jump with like grasshoppers (?), bear, mole, mouse, lizard, gecko, crocodile, chameleon and snail."

[Edited on May 1, 2012 at 12:27 PM. Reason : oh yeah]

5/1/2012 12:26:14 PM

Times have changed, the world is a different place, and we live in a much different culture. Most of the laws in Leviticus are outdated. We now realize that it's not okay to own slaves, even if they are from neighboring countries. We realize it's okay to have several kinds of crops in the same field. People now ignore the law about not cutting your hair and beard. We understand that it's a little extreme to kill both the husband and the wife if one of them commits adultery. We don't lock women in a hut when they're having their period. However, one thing stays the same: Homos are sinful!

5/1/2012 12:29:26 PM

^So God is obviously advocating bad behavior here if you take the bible at its word by allowing one to own slaves.

Then there is Exodus 35:2 - For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.

So I work on Sundays. Does this mean I should be killed?

5/1/2012 12:32:18 PM

If you read my above post, where I mention a lot of the "items" banned in Leviticus, my main issue is where people use this section to say that homosexuality is banned, sinful, inherently wrong, <insert other terms here> and they continue to eat their pork barbecue sandwich.... meaning, they ignore the other stuff.

I don't have an issue with people being morally against it... I just feel that people often use weak justifications when pointing to Leviticus.

Personally, I feel that this is just one more government intrusion that is not needed. Marriage is already between one man and one woman in NC. The reason why this is being pushed is because it will restrict civil unions to being only those between married heterosexual partners. I've heard some negative analysis of what this might mean for non-married heterosexual partners and their children... I am no legal expert, but there very likely will be unwanted and negative consequences.

5/1/2012 12:53:43 PM

Except Paul was ardently anti-homosexual (and anti-women while we're at it) as well. It's not just confined to the OT.

Romans 1:18-28 and 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 for example. Even "moderate" (read: cherry-picking, inconsistent) Christians have reason to condemn homosexuality.

But they'll just go on ignoring the vile putrescence in their supposed moral book and in their minds wash their hands of the assholes that pick fewer cherries.

[Edited on May 1, 2012 at 1:37 PM. Reason : .]

5/1/2012 1:35:11 PM

Reading the comments on wral really makes me sad. Holy shit, there are a lot of stupid, arrogant, igorant people around here. And I'm afraid that America will just continue to get dumber as these stupid people keep breeding: http://www.wral.com/share/page/1896337/?id=11041815

5/1/2012 1:41:49 PM

Wow, some of those comments are beyond stupid. I am hopefully that some of the comments on WRAL are people simply trolling.

5/1/2012 1:48:25 PM

Holy shit. I actually hate those people.

5/1/2012 1:51:11 PM

^^i'm afraid most of them aren't. they're just really that stupid.

5/1/2012 1:56:02 PM

Why did I click on that? /wrists

5/1/2012 1:58:01 PM

This comment on WRAL reminds me of one from a week or so back:

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"Far too many liberals have moved to North Carolina from whatever area where the products of their very disordered minds made life untenable. Vote yes."

I got called a filthy liberal because I was against it on WRAL before, lol... oh man... this is exactly why I said months back this "amendment" will just stir the pot and polarize things. I am not a religious conservative, but I am fiscally conservative.... name calling is usually something people do when they have nothing better to contribute.

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"Folks read the Bible - marriage is between one man and one woman. God mad[e] Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. We need to get back to the bibical tradition that this nation was founded on."

So I guess this poster is saying we should toss out separation of Church and State. Most of the founding fathers were Deists and some spoke ill of organized religion in their writings. Seems about right considering the large number of people that came to the US to escape religious prosecution. The comments are mind blowing over on WRAL right now.




[Edited on May 1, 2012 at 2:12 PM. Reason : sighs]

5/1/2012 2:09:08 PM

This isn't new by a very long shot. It's impossible to keep to yourself when your doctrine includes "make everyone else believe as we do."

5/1/2012 2:14:48 PM

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"People have been trying to disprove the Bible for thousands of years. It hasn't been done. It is without error."

heh

5/1/2012 3:18:16 PM

HAHAHA, holy shit, what a dumb-ass.

5/1/2012 3:22:20 PM

If you are a conservative and voting for the amendment, think of all the basic conservative tenants this goes against (big government, government waste, bad for business, etc). If this passes it will be mired in courts for many years costing an already broke state many more millions of dollars. Also, listen to other respected conservatives on the issue.



For those of you voting for the amendment for religious reasons, I just want to ask why? There is already a law against same sex marriage. Also, the Bible does not only define marriage as between a man and a woman (see related picture). It bothers me that people are allowed to pass legislation because they cherry pick from the oldest parts of the scripture. I can understand if you don't want gays to be "married" but why not let them be in civil unions? That has nothing to do with the Church.

5/1/2012 5:26:48 PM

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""Far too many liberals have moved to North Carolina from whatever area where the products of their very disordered minds made life untenable. Vote yes.""

I'm from the North, registered Democrat (left-center), and am culturally Catholic. I am screwed, aren't I?

5/1/2012 5:47:58 PM

You, sir, have ruined the world

5/1/2012 5:49:20 PM

where, how to vote?

kkthx

5/1/2012 5:53:05 PM

http://www.ncsbe.gov/

5/1/2012 8:29:22 PM

We are making the blogosphere rounds again, thanks Fayetteville!!!

Sick, Sick, Sick: NC pastor advocates beating the gay out of children

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/01/north-carolina-pastor-sea_n_1468618.html

5/1/2012 9:30:03 PM