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Quote : | "Monday, May 14, 2012 Russell Wilson opens eyes at camp ESPN.com news services
RENTON, Wash. -- Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said Sunday that rookie quarterback Russell Wilson will compete in training camp for the starting job with Matt Flynn and Tarvaris Jackson. NFC West Blog
ESPN.com's Mike Sando writes about all things NFC West in his division blog.
• Network: NFL Nation Carroll made his decision after watching Wilson compete at the team's just completed three-day rookie minicamp. The Seahawks coach said Russell took 500 snaps and threw approximately 400 passes during the three days. "He's showed us enough," Carroll told reporters. "He's in the competition. And that is going to tax us, as you know. It was already going to be taxing with two. But he's shown us enough that we need to see where he fits in with these guys." The Seahawks drafted Wilson out of Wisconsin in the third round of this year's draft. Flynn, a former Green Bay Packers backup, signed a three-year, $26 million contract with $10 million guaranteed earlier this offseason. Jackson started much of last season. Carroll said deciding on a starting quarterback will be a long process. "It's going to take us a long time to do this," he told reporters. "It's going to be frustrating for (the media). You're going to keep asking and want to know. I'm just going to be more patient than you can imagine as we go through this process, and we'll just figure it out when we do." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report." |
But he'll never see a snap in the NFL 5/14/2012 10:33:01 AM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
iop1 5/14/2012 10:34:53 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
He was a 3rd round draft pick and it's not like Flynn is Luck/RGIII/Newton. I don't know why people are acting like this is a big deal. 5/14/2012 10:37:49 AM |
urge311 All American 3026 Posts user info edit post |
Haha, this was just a subject of discussion on Sportscenter. 5/14/2012 11:14:04 AM |
RabbleRabble Veteran 385 Posts user info edit post |
Matt Flynn is the new Matt Cassel. 5/14/2012 12:20:24 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I expect Flynn to start based on pay and if Wilson shows enough to be starter-potential, they'll cut ties with Jackson. 5/14/2012 12:34:32 PM |
Steven All American 6156 Posts user info edit post |
http://mynorthwest.com/422/676326/Russell-Wilson-enters-Seahawks-QB-competition
Seattle Sports Radio is all over RW's nuts. My whole way to and from work is RW this, RW that. Instant love fest here. 5/14/2012 12:38:16 PM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Whitehurst never threw a pass as good as that one, or that one, or that one" |
LOL5/14/2012 1:03:56 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
iop1 5/14/2012 1:33:06 PM |
MisterGreen All American 4328 Posts user info edit post |
iop1 5/14/2012 1:55:14 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
god, nc state transfers are lighting up the sports news cycle. 5/14/2012 2:00:40 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I expect Flynn to start based on pay and if Wilson shows enough to be starter-potential, they'll cut ties with Jackson." |
I don't think Pete Carrol rolls that way.5/14/2012 2:04:28 PM |
Steven All American 6156 Posts user info edit post |
He doesn't which is awesome!!!!
Can't wait to go watch some preseason games!!! 5/14/2012 9:29:48 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Me too!!!!!
I'm Already eating major crow that he even got drafted, and I'll eat plenty more if he plays. Between him and Cam, my quarterback scouting instincts have been shit lately.
[Edited on May 14, 2012 at 9:34 PM. Reason : .] 5/14/2012 9:34:10 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
lookin' tough
5/15/2012 8:56:34 AM |
rtc407 All American 6217 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on May 15, 2012 at 10:43 AM. Reason : .]
5/15/2012 10:41:47 AM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
so when he starts saying "university of wisconsin" on mondays will these threads stop? 5/15/2012 10:59:45 AM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
Not if it were up to me. I'm a RW fan for the duration... love that dude. 5/15/2012 11:03:15 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
He's professed his love for NC State, so I'll continue to be a fan and follow him closer than most NFLers. 5/15/2012 11:10:47 AM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
Good for him! Hope this thread gets to 30 pages! 5/15/2012 11:49:30 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
im thinking if they allow Suggs to rep "Ball So Hard", they'll allow RW the extra 2 seconds to rep both schools, which i think he will 5/15/2012 12:19:37 PM |
StateCole All American 3597 Posts user info edit post |
^Not gonna lie, that was stupid, but I loved it. 5/15/2012 12:23:26 PM |
Steven All American 6156 Posts user info edit post |
http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2012/05/who_is_seahawks_rookie_quarter.php
"Who is Russell Wilson?"
http://mynorthwest.com/719/676776/A-threeway-quarterback-competition-is-a-bad-idea
[Edited on May 15, 2012 at 12:41 PM. Reason : more articles]
5/15/2012 12:37:53 PM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
dude gives such a great interview
http://www.seahawks.com/videos-photos/videos/Press-Conference-Russell-Wilson/e38246f5-bf87-4379-aec7-b295233f65b0 5/15/2012 12:41:32 PM |
Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
@ Slave Famous, maybe its because you NEVER had any QB scouting/predictability instincts to begin with! 5/15/2012 2:27:54 PM |
slckwill577 All American 757 Posts user info edit post |
to be fair, i thought scam was gonna be questionable at best in his first year as well. I don't think anybody could have predicted what happened 5/15/2012 3:18:39 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Wolfdood
My man
Where have you been 5/15/2012 3:19:33 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Wolfood, those are fighting words. I've personally met both Gus Ferrotte and Todd McShay. I bet you won't say this shit to my face. 5/15/2012 3:20:28 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
that dude that's always drunk just clowned on him on Around the Horn 5/15/2012 5:22:23 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
iop1 5/15/2012 8:13:52 PM |
costigan Veteran 358 Posts user info edit post |
Silver lining in today: wolfood is back 5/15/2012 10:42:06 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
could you imagine how devastating the Niners would be with RW?
we would have another dynasty on our hands 5/25/2012 3:02:11 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
looks like there will actually be a competition, at least for the moment.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/24/seahawks-splitting-quarterback-reps-three-ways-in-otas/ 5/25/2012 3:16:36 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
look, all RW wanted was a chance to compete. And TOB Pete Carroll was being a dick 5/26/2012 12:54:36 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so when he starts saying "university of wisconsin" on mondays will these threads stop?" |
Do they make you say the school you were drafted from? He does have a degree from NC State, so it wouldn't be a stretch to let him say that was his school.5/26/2012 2:43:38 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Why would you have a problem with him repping Wisconsin? They accepted him under the same conditions that caused us to kick him to the curb. 5/26/2012 3:15:13 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do they make you say" |
This is some HOOPS MALONE shit5/26/2012 3:19:22 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Actually I'm pretty sure he already knew he wasn't playing baseball when he went to Wisconsin. 5/26/2012 9:45:09 PM |
Kickstand All American 11596 Posts user info edit post |
You know what I think, bdmazur? That was a dumb question. 5/27/2012 12:54:12 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
It would be awesome if the seahawks drafted Glennon next year so they could duel it out.
Flynn should get the starting job though bc he's got $10MM guaranteed and they need to find out what he's got first.
But at only $10 guaranteed they won't be hesitant to trade him or cut him if in the offseason if he struggles and RW emerges during the season.
No reason to rush RW in as the starter though unless he's clearly much better or if flynn gets hurt. Let him develop and observe a little first. I don't expect tavaris to get much of an opportunity to win the starting job though and wouldn't be surprised if RW is the backup. 5/27/2012 3:04:43 AM |
Steven All American 6156 Posts user info edit post |
I thought it was 10 Mill guaranteed over the duration of the deal with incentives putting it up to 30 mill...10 mil is just a good back up salary these days...look at T-Jack. he gets 4 mill/year
whitehurst was getting similar
[Edited on May 27, 2012 at 3:09 AM. Reason : ya] 5/27/2012 3:08:28 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
^ The contract as I understand it is 3 yrs, $26 million with $10M being guaranteed. There may be a few incentives in there but most incentives in football involve still being on the roster on a certain date and/or doing minor things like attending minicamps.
This means if he is on the roster he will be making ~$9M per year. If RW is better than Flynn you can bet they will not keep him as a backup QB for more than one season at $9M per season. At that point they will trade Flynn to a team desperate for a QB or cut him and eat the ~6.7M left that they owe him. 5/27/2012 3:24:29 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
WOW. These guys nailed it on Cam Newton last year so this is certainly meaningful.
Quote : | "In March, we posted an article on our website about the Lewin Career Forecast numbers of 2012 quarterback prospects, and we dubbed Russell Wilson “The Asterisk.” Wilson’s college stats blew LCF away: 48 college games started, a 60.7 percent completion rate, and most importantly, an absurd 64.1 jump in passer rating between his junior and senior seasons. Wilson would have the best LCF forecast of all-time if he were drafted in the first three rounds. But at that point, nobody thought he was going in the first three rounds. Thus, “The Asterisk.” Well, guess what? The Asterisk was drafted in the third round by the Seattle Seahawks and, if you believe Pete Carroll, will even get a shot to compete for the Seahawks’ starting job in training camp. So officially, it is now Russell Wilson, not Robert Griffin, who has the highest LCF forecast ever. Nevertheless, he is still The Asterisk, because there are a couple of elements here that the Lewin Career Forecast does not account for. First, that big leap in passer rating was less the product of Wilson’s own improvement and more the product of his transfer from North Carolina State to Wisconsin, where defenses were focused on stopping Montee Ball instead of Wilson. Second, we simply have no way to control for Wilson’s height. Teams don’t draft short quarterbacks unless they are really, really confident in their abilities. Since 1991, Wilson is the only quarterback under six feet tall to be drafted in the first three rounds. Even if we raise that limit to six-foot even, only three quarterbacks have been drafted in the first three rounds: Wilson, Michael Vick, and Drew Brees.
Brees, of course, is the quarterback Wilson is often compared to. The Saints offense built around Drew Brees provides a fine template for designing an offense that takes advantage of Wilson’s mobility and perfect throw-and-go timing while minimizing the issue of his height.1 Wilson’s game must focus on manipulation of the pocket and the secondary with the help of movement: play action, short drops, bootlegs, partial rolls, and misdirection. Wilson also excels at delivering the football to a spot where only the receiver has a chance to make a play on it. And if the play breaks down, he can run; he gained 483 yards on just 56 non-sack carries in 2011, and had career +41.3 Adj. POE as a runner.
The Lewin Career Forecast is just a guideline, not a gospel. Nobody would suggest that Russell Wilson is a better quarterback prospect than Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin. But Wilson can win in the NFL if he has an offensive coordinator who knows how to take advantage of his skills." |
7/23/2012 12:42:59 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Do these guys have a website 7/23/2012 12:54:34 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
nah, it's just a couple guys in an alley. 7/23/2012 1:03:34 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
Buncha Benedict Arnold fans in this thread. You know what the Patriots did to the Loyalists after the war, right? 7/23/2012 1:04:09 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
yes but thats from their almanac 7/23/2012 1:19:39 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Damn a +41.3 Adj. POE
That is some serious Adj. POE 7/23/2012 1:21:04 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
Adjective Poe 7/23/2012 1:27:50 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
set em up for troll page 2 --------------> 7/23/2012 1:34:03 PM |