bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Interesting bit today on Boston sports talk radio about homophobia in sports. They got a lot of calls, texts, and tweets from people saying they would never let gays play for their teams, but the radio hosts held strong and insisted that if anyone thinks there has never been a gay player for any Boston-area professional sports team then they are fooling themselves.
Of the Big 4 I think hockey would have the easiest time handling a popular player coming out just because of where the strongest fan bases are and basketball would be the toughest.
http://youcanplayproject.org/ 5/24/2012 2:40:00 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
this is an opportune time to play the race card 5/24/2012 7:09:41 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
WWCJD?
5/24/2012 7:49:57 AM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
I was a big fan of this show for the one season it ran. It would have continued if it were an HBO series.
http://iusportcom.com/uncategorized/five-reasons-why-playmakers-was-cancelled-for-being-too-good/
Quote : | "One of the reasons it was canceled:
It touches on important and risky issues. It adds depth to the characters. In episode 9, Thad Guerwitcz is outted by his partner David to his entire team. Talk about pushing boundaries, as rumors circulate about a closeted man on the cougars news teams ask each player what they think about the ordeal. Some joke about it, some try to be as nice and professional as possible about it, and some flat out say it’s unnatural. Guerwitcz denies, and is ostracized by his teammates and encouraged to go on IR by his owner and coach. Once Thad makes all star, as the only player from the team going, he has the courage to come out. He gave his inspiring, strong speech to his teammates at that moment. Definitely not something you would expect from a sports show." |
5/24/2012 8:10:59 AM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
5/24/2012 8:12:08 AM |
jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
this thread is gay 5/24/2012 8:18:29 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
^^lol, I just looked him up to get the reference and wow
Quote : | ""Well, you know I hate gay people, so I let it be known. I don't like gay people and I don't like to be around gay people. I am homophobic. I don't like it. It shouldn't be in the world or in the United States." He also said that if he found out he had one or more gay teammates, he would try to get them fired." |
5/24/2012 8:27:51 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
A gay athlete should probably just keep that a secret during his playing career ala Amechi. Coming out while playing is just asking for trouble due to the culture of most professional sports.
Honestly though why is it such a big deal to be telling everyone who you screw and why do gay people act like they need to tell everyone. Just live your life and do your job. I don't tell people I work with about my sex life and I don't give a crap about my co-workers sex life either. 5/24/2012 9:10:31 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I think it's not about telling everybody, it's about not having to hide it from everybody. 5/24/2012 9:20:44 AM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Of the Big 4 I think hockey would have the easiest time handling a popular player coming out just because of where the strongest fan bases are and basketball would be the toughest." |
Because black people are more homophobic, right? To me, this reads like racism disguised as homophobia, to me.
And chances are there are several gay professional athletes. And I bet their teammates know. And their coaches know too. The problem is that this whole "coming out" thing puts way too much pressure on gays. Just let them live. Because the first guy to put his gay lifestyle on display for the media and public-at-large will automatically become a "social hero" to a bunch of people... and maybe most athletes don't want that in their life.5/24/2012 9:35:43 AM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Because the first guy to put his gay lifestyle on display for the media and public-at-large will automatically become a "social hero" to a bunch of people... and maybe most athletes don't want that in their life." |
Yeh, most athletes go into pro sports for the lack of attention & under-the-radar lifestyle it brings them5/24/2012 9:39:48 AM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
Not everybody's the star QB, point guard, etc.
If the Titans 3rd string left guard came out he'd likely turn into the face of some movement, and you damn sure wouldn't know who he was beforehand. 5/24/2012 9:46:19 AM |
HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
I'd like a really good linebacker in the AFC East to come out of the closet and rape Tebow. 5/24/2012 10:09:33 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
I think arachnophobia is the bigger issue in professional sports. 5/24/2012 10:34:50 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I was a big fan of this show for the one season it ran. It would have continued if it were an HBO series." |
playmakers got canceled for one reason and one reason alone: the NFL didn't like it.
ESPN couldn't risk pissing off the most popular sports league in the country. That would be akin to you peddling a sex tape of your boss. Just not a good idea.5/24/2012 10:54:44 AM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
^I always hoped HBO would somehow revive the series. 5/24/2012 11:29:29 AM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Right. That's basically what I meant. Of course ESPN was going to do what the NFL wanted. And a network like HBO would've given them the finger. 5/24/2012 11:36:58 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
no, they probably wouldn't have
they suck out of the teat of the NFL just like everyone else 5/24/2012 11:40:54 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Starz is the only real network that could pull it off the right way. They have no NFL ties whatsoever, and need another anchor once Spartacus runs it course. 5/24/2012 11:50:35 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
back to the topic at hand
what would be a bigger deal?
an NBA Superstar coming out or a big-name rapper? 5/24/2012 12:28:15 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
5/24/2012 1:08:23 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
"homophobia"
one of those kinda words that... 5/24/2012 1:24:32 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Because black people are more homophobic, right? To me, this reads like racism disguised as homophobia, to me." |
By assuming that I meant "black people" by the NBA would make you guilty of racism, sir. There is a clear cut difference between NBA culture vs NHL/MLB/NFL regardless of the race distribution. Hockey and baseball players seem, at least to me, to be more accepting of each other as human beings.
Quote : | "Honestly though why is it such a big deal to be telling everyone who you screw and why do gay people act like they need to tell everyone. Just live your life and do your job. I don't tell people I work with about my sex life and I don't give a crap about my co-workers sex life either." |
Plenty of athletes, and celebrities in general, publicly discuss their sex lives all the time. I agree with this:Quote : | "it's about not having to hide it from everybody." |
5/25/2012 1:12:14 AM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
Cedric benson 5/25/2012 1:56:36 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
UConn Hockey made an announcement as a team that they would accept gay players:
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7968996/uconn-gay-hockey-players-welcome-play-connecticut-huskies 5/25/2012 2:49:52 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Hockey and baseball players seem, at least to me, to be more accepting of each other as human beings." |
baseball players? really? i don't see that.5/25/2012 10:31:58 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Science ITT 5/25/2012 10:33:35 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
ESPN = homophobic ]
5/25/2012 10:46:08 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Are you saying Hank Williams Jr is gay and they fired him because of homophobia? 5/25/2012 11:20:36 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
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sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
So, on sunday i got coffee from a gay guy. He was an incredibly happy fellow and i think i envy him some.
I think he and they as a culture tend to be happier because the ones you know are gay... don't give a fuck what other people think about them. I think that is the key to happiness for everyone. Because as soon as you don't care about other people you can do what you really want rather then focusing on keeping up with the joneses or trying to be the manliest man on the block.
This guy was talking to my wife about his ballerina classes (or whatever you call that stuff) and i was just standing there like damn... it takes some balls to be a fucking ballerina and not care what people think about you... Mad props to you Mr. Barista. 5/31/2012 11:17:59 AM |
MisterGreen All American 4328 Posts user info edit post |
for gays to make a major breakthrough in the world of sports, it will take an extremely dominant athlete to come out while he is still playing.
someone super dominant like lebron or a-rod...then, no one will talk shit, because the gay guy is still way better 5/31/2012 11:35:56 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Lots of people who don't like soccer seem to think a lot of the players are gay. Are there any open gay soccer players? 5/31/2012 1:08:22 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/players/02/28/poll.0228/
Tuesday February 28, 2006
[Based on a survey of 450 MLB players, 248 NBA players, 357 NFL players and 346 NHL players] Would you welcome an openly gay teammate?
MLB Yes .....61.5% No .....34.8% Don't Know ....3.7%
NBA Yes .....59.6% No .....38.6% Don't Know ....1.8%
NFL Yes .....56.9% No .....39.6% Don't Know ....3.5%
NHL Yes .....79.9% No .....18% Don't Know ....2.1% 5/31/2012 1:34:51 PM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 5/31/2012 1:36:11 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
There are plenty of lesbos in the WNBA 5/31/2012 5:08:06 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
openly lesbionic? 5/31/2012 5:36:55 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
WNBA is a sport? 5/31/2012 7:13:14 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53064 Posts user info edit post |
ibtlewisje 5/31/2012 7:58:06 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Not professional but definitely relevant:
VCU volleyball coach claims he was fired because of his sexual orientation. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8695613/vcu-rams-volleyball-coach-james-finley-says-was-fired-gay 12/1/2012 1:37:30 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
A gay man as a women's volleyball coach ?!?!
Now I've heard everything! 12/1/2012 1:44:44 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
that Hank Williams pic always makes me lol 12/1/2012 1:49:57 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And chances are there are several gay professional athletes. And I bet their teammates know. And their coaches know too. The problem is that this whole "coming out" thing puts way too much pressure on gays. Just let them live. Because the first guy to put his gay lifestyle on display for the media and public-at-large will automatically become a "social hero" to a bunch of people... and maybe most athletes don't want that in their life." |
this is a pre-1947 mentality, btw12/1/2012 3:00:37 AM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 12/1/2012 3:07:37 AM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
Gtfo with this bullshit conversation 12/1/2012 5:48:33 AM |
Kickstand All American 11596 Posts user info edit post |
Homophobia isn't fear of gay people. It's ignorance. 12/1/2012 9:19:44 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Gtfo with this bullshit conversation" |
u mad bro?12/1/2012 9:38:31 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Because the first guy to put his gay lifestyle on display for the media and public-at-large will automatically become a "social hero" to a bunch of people... and maybe most athletes don't want that in their life." |
Right, because no one wants to be the Jackie Robinson of their generation?1/4/2013 3:27:53 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
i didn't realize gay people were not allowed to play professional sports (except in leagues made up only of homosexuals).
[Edited on January 4, 2013 at 4:40 PM. Reason : .] 1/4/2013 4:39:47 PM |
FatTony All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
Can't hide being black. Right Sammy?
1/4/2013 4:41:59 PM |