Ah, my favorite offseason to follow each year. Lots of big names, some of whom may be washed up and lots of unknown budding stars who may be big steals this offseason.

First news of the offseason is ramon sessions to opt out. Quite a panic for the lakers I'm sure since they have no other option than Steve Blake, they are way over the cap already , and they gave up first rounders for him.

I think sessions knows he has them over a barrel and that he has the leverage to lock up a big multi year deal from them. The lakers could look to move gasol so they can afford to pay him since they already have mcroberts in place to start at PF. Or who
knows maybe the lakers just eat the tax and pay all of them.

Sessions was spectacular for the lakers in the regular season but a big disappointment in the playoffs.

6/19/2012 4:10:48 PM

The most important offseason move has already been made (bobcats hiring maestro).

6/19/2012 4:12:47 PM

face subtly declares the Finals over.

6/19/2012 4:13:34 PM

Hornets trad Trevor Ariza and Emeka Okafor to Wizards for Rashard Lewis and 46th pick in draft

6/20/2012 3:55:54 PM

gerald henderson begins a strenuous off season workout regimen on his way to becoming a top 20 player next season

6/20/2012 4:07:56 PM

I feel like boring to watch basketball now. Most of the stars are younger than me.

6/20/2012 4:30:18 PM

Everyone has that realization at some point. My comp will always be Lebron, since we're a month apart. Once you get over the fact that he's a foot taller and and 80 pounds bigger than you, it stings a little less.

6/20/2012 4:31:21 PM

Did the Braves do anything for Jeter?

6/20/2012 4:31:39 PM

^^ Yao is 4 months apart from me.

[Edited on June 20, 2012 at 4:33 PM. Reason : make it clear]

6/20/2012 4:33:12 PM

Potential 2012 lottery picks that I think will be busts:
Sullinger
Robinson
Barnes
Rivers
Leonard
Marshall
Drummond

6/20/2012 11:27:33 PM

Drummond and Rivers are guaranteed busts. Drummond was terrible in college and Rivers wasn't very good. Barnes will probably be a bust too, but he'll score a few points on bad teams so some people might not recognize that he stinks.

Hilarious write-up on Rivers and Barnes here:

Quote :

" I haven’t seen that much red since, well since last time I argued that Austin Rivers is a bad draft prospect. This guy can’t even score points at an above average rate, what exactly does he bring to the table? His dad was good? Chad Ford sums it up (unintentionally) hilariously well: Extremely confident Good shooter with deep range Sick crossover move, very quick Nice floater Skilled ball handler Has a killer instinct on the floor Is that list serious? He’s extremely confident? Tupac was extremely confident, but I didn’t want him on my basketball team. He has a “sick” crossover move? That’s analysis? Hot Sauce had a sick crossover move, but I didn’t want him on my NBA basketball team. Rivers can’t be that great of a shooter or he’d have better shooting percentages. He has a nice floater? Great. So why doesn’t he shoot a higher percentage or score more? He has a killer instinct. The list sells itself. If you like watching shows like Ghost Hunters or Finding Bigfoot, take Austin Rivers in the lottery. I’ll stick with guys who are objectively good."

Quote :

"What’s worse than a terrible lottery pick from Duke? A terrible top 5 pick from UNC! Barnes isn’t quite as bad as *shutter* Rivers or Teague, but he’s expected to go top 5 – a pick that teams will intentionally destroy their seasons to get. Barnes is everything a GM wants – he has great size, he is one of the most athletic guys in the draft, and he can score from anywhere (or at least that’s what they say) – except for one thing: he isn’t good. (compares Barnes lackluster stats to the other top 100 SF) Barnes is the epitome of the basketball player that fools the masses with everyone’s favorite stat. Yeah, he scores a lot of points. But it’s only because he shoots so much. His shooting percentages are poor. So in reality, he’s not a good scorer. He’s good at taking a lot of shots. But anyone can do that. And when you look deeper into his numbers, you see he’s not particularly good at anything. Obviously, that’s not what you dismantled your team for."

[Edited on June 21, 2012 at 2:31 AM. Reason : a]

6/21/2012 2:30:30 AM

*shutter*

you know whats funnier than declaring two 19-year olds as definite busts?

Quote :

"Wages of Wins podcast – Harden is better than Durant"

sports economists are so credible!

this is where face gets all his opinions people, the place that says Harden (2-10 from the field each of the last 2 games) is better than a top-3 player in the NBA, Kevin Durant

so every time you suck off face, remember that he buys into shit like this too

[Edited on June 21, 2012 at 2:52 AM. Reason : Michael Vick is a Golden God]

Quote :

"Arturo’s answer is that he thinks the Thunder all fall apart if they ditch James Harden, who is their best player."

[Edited on June 21, 2012 at 3:05 AM. Reason : laughable]

6/21/2012 2:48:18 AM

lol @ the Chipper post

Thought I was in the Braves thread, I guess

6/21/2012 9:13:35 AM

rivers is a freak. he wont be a busta bust yallz

6/21/2012 9:28:30 AM

Rivers couldn't do anything in college. Don't see him magically becoming good in the nba

6/21/2012 11:36:53 AM

ESPN (insider) ranked the #1 draft picks from the last 20 years. (really 19)

Rank Player
1. LeBron James
2. Tim Duncan
3. Dwight Howard
4. Derrick Rose
5. Allen Iverson
6. Chris Webber
7. Yao Ming
8. Blake Griffin
9. Elton Brand
10. Kyrie Irving
11. Glenn Robinson
12. Andrew Bogut
13. Joe Smith
14. Kenyon Martin
15. John Wall
16. Andrea Bargnani
17. Kwame Brown
18. Michael Olowokandi
19. Greg Oden
??? Anthony Davis

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/8080359/nba-draft-where-does-anthony-davis-rank-all-time-no-1-overall-picks

6/21/2012 5:55:30 PM

Gotta LOTTA balls putting Rose over Iverson

6/21/2012 6:21:17 PM

16-19 is about as bad as it gets.

6/21/2012 6:59:44 PM

Rose and iverson over webber?!?! That is just laughable he is an all time great.

6/21/2012 9:53:39 PM

can't argue with Iverson over Webber, and Derrick Rose will probably have a pretty solid NBA career

6/21/2012 10:27:24 PM

6/21/2012 11:38:37 PM

^^ you're right, you can't.

Webber is an all-time great basketball player and Iverson was an all-time great shoe salesman.

Iverson couldn't hold Webber's jock as a basketball player, and I'm not sure C-Webb even had his own shoes to sell.

Comparing the two as basketball players would be like comparing Paul Pierce to John Salmons.

Don't get me wrong I loved Iverson as a kid and even argued against all reason that he was a great basketball player at one time. But if you look at his numbers objectively as an adult, they don't hold up. He is an all-time deceptive player. He was slightly above average at his peak. Terrible shooting and high turnovers really offset his insane steal rate.



[Edited on June 22, 2012 at 12:04 AM. Reason : a]

6/21/2012 11:57:42 PM

Iverson singlehandedly won an NBA Finals game against one of the most dominant duos in recent memory

Webber banged Tyra Banks in her prime

its a wash

6/22/2012 12:10:03 AM

Well the first move of the offseason has been made. Not very classy Pat Riley.

In the press conference he just announced Miami will be amnestying Mike Miller.


I understand why they're doing it, but after the guy hits 7 threes in the close-out game, have a little respect Riley

6/22/2012 12:17:27 AM

did he really?

[Edited on June 22, 2012 at 1:51 AM. Reason : you're not one to just make something up...]

6/22/2012 1:50:21 AM

haha no, there's just speculation they will to avoid some tax.

I don't think they will. They're so old they need all the bodies they can get. Just depends on the owner's bottom line, obviously wouldn't be a basketball decision since they'd still be well over the cap.

6/22/2012 2:02:45 AM

they'll have Ray Allen next year, won't have any need to keep Mike "Jake Taylor" Miller anymore

6/22/2012 2:04:14 AM

Quote :

"comparing Paul Pierce to John Salmons."

The thing is, I don't know who face would argue is better at this point.

6/22/2012 9:44:13 AM

Pierce is a borderline all time great and salmons stinks.

6/22/2012 3:47:00 PM

Way to start your summer off on the right foot, Amare!

6/25/2012 9:28:51 AM

bttt for the start of free agency

7/1/2012 9:11:59 AM

Quote :

"Roy Hibbert has been offered a max contract from the Blazers following a meeting with Neil Olshey and Larry Miller in Washington, D.C."

Wow. Roy Fucking Hibbert?

7/1/2012 11:13:48 AM

lol.

also dwight howard is a dumb fuck.

7/1/2012 11:55:20 AM

Roy was a max type player last season and was solid the year before after two bad years to start his career.
Plus he's a restricted free agent so they had to make a big offer to have any chance.

I think its a solid move by Portland, he's young. I expect Indiana to match though.


Lot of news out there and early on every team appears to be making wise choices.


Garnett deal might not look great in three years and Wallace for 4 and 40 is certainly risky at his age though.

7/1/2012 2:22:34 PM

For all the crap Lebron got for "The Decision".....Dwight Howard has to be 100X worse.

"Howard wants to land in Brooklyn and, after realizing that a trade to the Nets was unlikely, he contacted the National Basketball Players Association to explore his legal options against the Magic. He claims that members of the organization “blackmailed” him and threatened him into opting in to the final year of his contract, but sources close to the situation say there isn’t much evidence to support Howard’s claims. Howard personally contacted the union last week, asking if there was any way they could facilitate a trade to Brooklyn or nullify his opt-in to make him an unrestricted free agent this summer. It’s unlikely that the union will take legal action on behalf of Howard, according to sources close to the situation."

http://www.hoopsworld.com/orlando-magic-prepared-to-trade-dwight-howard

7/1/2012 4:04:25 PM

Quote :

"I'm not sure C-Webb even had his own shoes to sell."

I can't believe you've forgotten about the Dada Cdubbz & C4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHhv_3bBgfE

7/1/2012 4:46:04 PM

Anybody who forgets about Dada shoes has no credibility in my book.

7/1/2012 5:02:06 PM

The DADA Spinners will forever be a classic


What the fuck is up with these GMs making 8-figure offers to some of these assclowns, it's almost like we had a lockout over this issue (amongst others) recently

7/1/2012 10:13:38 PM

Fuck Dwight Howard. He has always had a lot of talent, but he thinks too highly of himself. He needs to shut the fuck up and realize that he isn't the best center of all time.

7/1/2012 10:34:12 PM

he won a dunk contest on a dunk that wasn't even a dunk

i've hated him since Orlando drafted him instead of drafting the sure thing, Emeka Okafor

7/1/2012 10:36:02 PM

Wow the nets are in full panic mode. They are offering deron in the $100m range and now are willing to trade for Joe Johnson and his $90m deal. Ewwwwww.

Love Houstons deal with asik. It's 3 years, $25 million which is a good value and it pays $5,$5 then $15 the third year haha

7/1/2012 11:40:37 PM

Joe Johnson's contract is a joke for what he is

Deron has been a top-5 point guard his entire career, nothing wrong with that offer

7/1/2012 11:41:30 PM

trolling 'em softly

7/2/2012 12:17:09 AM

i thought we all agreed months ago that Williams was a top-5 PG talent who just happened to play for the Nets this year?

the Bobcats might have sucked this year, but Williams was the only one to drop 57 points on em

7/2/2012 12:44:17 AM

face's lack of response is disappointing

7/2/2012 1:44:22 AM

Deron had a really tough year obviously. He hasn't been healthy and at this point I'd rather spend the money on a guy you know is good than a big risk. Joe Johnson hasn't been productive for a few years. If you spend $190m on a backcourt you better end up with like Rondo and Harden, not two has beens

7/2/2012 5:42:43 AM

You think rondo is worth like 25 million a season?

7/2/2012 7:48:16 AM

Quote :

"Jrue Holiday seeking Max Contract extension from 6ers"

7/2/2012 1:47:17 PM

Quote :

"i thought we all agreed months ago that Williams was a top-5 PG talent who just happened to play for the Nets like shit this year?"

ftfy

Deron is one of my favorite point guards...but he sucked this year (at least relative to the top pgs in the league). I hope he gets it together, because I love his game.

7/2/2012 2:06:56 PM

JJ officially moved to NJ for a bunch of garbage (still somehow a good deal for Atlanta)

It's also official, there's no such thing as a contract that's too bad to trade


Wallace, Williams, Howard, & JJ enough to make any noise in the East?

7/2/2012 5:28:55 PM