"What girls want & what guys want to be"

http://foxhoundstudio.com/blog/fitness-lifestyle/the-ideal-male-physique-%E2%80%94-what-girls-want-want-guys-want-to-be/








Here's a gem from the article:

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"37.3% think that men should look good naturally without any effort"

This confirms what I had already assumed - women like a guy that looks good but who doesn't seem like he's actively trying to look good. Sprezzatura. This applies to a lot more than physique, I'm sure, and I think it probably applies to women's attractiveness to men as well, but possibly to a lesser degree.

Interesting piece, overall. I'd like to know more about the women that participated in the survey. I'll speculate that any insecurity from being overweight on the women's part would make them less likely to choose someone like Frank Zane simply due to the disparity in body type. If you were to only survey women that were athletic/fit, I imagine you'd end up with a much different breakdown of opinions in some of these areas. The article does touch on that but not in too much detail.

[Edited on September 5, 2012 at 9:56 AM. Reason : ]

9/5/2012 9:38:04 AM

women want the d'angelo muscle

9/5/2012 9:41:15 AM

That is really not an attractive selection of photos. :-/

9/5/2012 9:44:54 AM

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"That is really not an attractive selection of photos. :-/"

"None of the above" gets my vote...

9/5/2012 9:46:36 AM

the funny thing is most of you will wind up with the 15.6% picture

9/5/2012 9:49:00 AM

my ideal male body would be



Hopefully Vampire Diaries will have more shirtless Damon this season!

9/5/2012 9:49:45 AM

I lean toward the 6.3, personally. But I have noticed that the closer the guys I have dated are to that, the more they want to gain muscle to get bigger. Heh.

9/5/2012 9:50:14 AM

you kind of posted those images in a messed up and misleading order compared to what's in the link

9/5/2012 9:50:23 AM

^^^ and ^^, I like those choices better. I'd be in the 82% category on Skwinkle's choices.

[Edited on September 5, 2012 at 9:54 AM. Reason : nevermind, he edited.]

9/5/2012 9:51:30 AM

lol, true that.

9/5/2012 9:51:49 AM

Is that Tommy Lee?

9/5/2012 9:52:06 AM

So women want dudes who look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club.

This is really startling research right here.

9/5/2012 9:55:49 AM

Sorry, I updated the OP to include the right pictures.

9/5/2012 9:56:19 AM

lol at this comment

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"Oh, and, uh, I forgot to tell you: you can’t believe what women say they like. Sometimes they don’t even know. The only way you can tell for sure is to check to see if their vaginas get lubricated."

The rest of the comments are pretty annoying, though. Bros insisting all the women who don't prefer Zyzz (who the fuck is that, btw?) are whales.

[Edited on September 5, 2012 at 10:05 AM. Reason : .]

9/5/2012 9:59:37 AM

Zyzz:



Well known and revered in online (male-dominated) bodybuilding forums. Typically seen as the "pinnacle" of male aesthetics.

9/5/2012 10:09:34 AM

Or just be rich as fuck.

9/5/2012 10:10:27 AM

^^ That guy has Kate+8 hair.

[Edited on September 5, 2012 at 10:13 AM. Reason : ]

9/5/2012 10:12:52 AM

The Brad Pitt Fight Club look still looks high-maintenance/carb-free.

9/5/2012 10:18:09 AM

Carbs actually become more important at that level of leanness (8-10% BF). High carb days at least once a week are necessary to prevent hormonal problems - loss of libido, "performance" issues, depression/malaise, etc. The real issue with maintenance at that point is not too many carbs, it's sodium and water retention resulting in a "squishy" look.

9/5/2012 10:27:01 AM

The hormonal problem is true with low carb. I went low carb for two weeks and it messed up my menstrual cycle, I was spotting and getting them way early then I normally did during my cycle.

9/5/2012 10:29:47 AM

^^ Yes, but I'd venture to say that he's following a relatively low-carb diet to achieve that look. Cheat days are almost a given for any diet.

[Edited on September 5, 2012 at 10:30 AM. Reason : f]

9/5/2012 10:30:11 AM

Everyone should click through to the article, because all the images posted haven't been given much context. The first image djeternal posted was a comparison of different muscular body types.



The second image was a comparison of bodyfat levels.


This is a comparison of 'lean' body types. I don't know how they picked one, they all look nearly identical to me.



This is what women consider the ideal beach body:



Then they took first place from each one and asked which one women preferred overall:

9/5/2012 10:36:40 AM

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"The hormonal problem is true with low carb. I went low carb for two weeks and it messed up my menstrual cycle, I was spotting and getting them way early then I normally did during my cycle."

Yeah, I've heard of that being a problem for women with low carb, fasting, and general dieting. My girlfriend has done IF/carb cycling for the past 6 months or so and hasn't run into any problems (not sure if ...), but she did "carb ups" a few times a week like I have done.

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"Yes, but I'd venture to say that he's following a relatively low-carb diet to achieve that look. Cheat days are almost a given for any diet."

To get to that point? I'm sure. There's so much variance between individuals though; some people respond really well to a low/no carb diet, even if other people do very well with medium-high carb days frequently. You kind of have to listen to your body, although "ball parking" or a non-disciplined approach won't allow most men to achieve fight club era Brad Pitt physique.

^Thanks for that. I was hoping that people would actually read the article since the initial post was a little rushed.

[Edited on September 5, 2012 at 10:41 AM. Reason : ]

9/5/2012 10:40:40 AM

apparently im the perfect male human
my muscles(or lack thereof) come from actually doing physical work daily..
not some synthetic bullshit you make in the gym

9/5/2012 10:49:43 AM

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"(not sure if ...)"

hahah I thought I was too, because of the spotting. I went and bought a pregnancy test.

I also know I wasn't getting enough calories for the amount of volume I was doing that month. So that and the low carb really messed me up. It's actually really hard to meet calorie goal and eat clean. I can't stand eggs and tuna now.

9/5/2012 10:52:23 AM

tom_daley.jpg

9/5/2012 11:21:06 AM

Fuck you girls.


I'm hoping I can win the lottery and find the love of my life in the same week like this guy!

9/5/2012 11:28:03 AM

Damn that zyzz guy has a stellar physique, but he's a little heavy on the traps so would not hit

9/5/2012 11:46:51 AM

In before "his penis is too pointy"

9/5/2012 12:00:50 PM

They like lean ectomorphs.....imagine that...

9/5/2012 12:14:03 PM

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"Damn that zyzz guy has a stellar physique, but he's a little heavy on the traps so would not hit"

didn't he essentially roid (+other things) himself to death with weird experimental asian shit?

[Edited on September 5, 2012 at 12:16 PM. Reason : that's not trap heavy at all. ]

9/5/2012 12:15:21 PM

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" not some synthetic bullshit you make in the gym"

Lolwut

9/5/2012 12:18:48 PM

i cant look at that Zyzz dude without loling at his hair

9/5/2012 12:20:48 PM

^the hair and the tat placement turn me off.

9/5/2012 12:21:29 PM

I'll get right on this

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

[Edited on September 5, 2012 at 12:23 PM. Reason : implying women know what they want. holy shit Zyzz finally made it to tww]

9/5/2012 12:23:24 PM

Zyzz is also dead btw everyone LOL

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

9/5/2012 12:24:14 PM

[Edited on September 5, 2012 at 12:43 PM. Reason : qq]

9/5/2012 12:24:50 PM

the number one photo is only number one because the women know it is brad pitt

9/5/2012 12:55:25 PM

haha BHS is right. this is what my brother said when I sent him the link.

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"nwhahahahah. before i even clicked i KNEW it was gonna be that fucking pic from fight club. thats because thats the only "ripped" body that, collectively, women know. that and the ryan renalds pic."

9/5/2012 1:30:22 PM

IMO ed norton didn't get nearly enough respeck for his physique in AHX





guess it's hard to show your body off to women at large with a swastika to the face

9/5/2012 3:04:38 PM

He juiced up for that film (admittedly). Its hard for an ectomorph to get that big naturally.



Heck Brad Pitts also an ectormorph and he is probably 160lbs + good lighting in the film Fight Club.

9/5/2012 4:54:28 PM

[Edited on September 5, 2012 at 5:06 PM. Reason : ]

9/5/2012 5:01:48 PM

i've said for years that guys go for the wrong look when in the gym. Girls don't care how much you bench press that's irrelevant to them. They want you to look lean but with some muscle mass (not 155 lbs)

i think the reason most girls are SAYING they don't want the ripped bodies is because of two reasons.

Either

A) They've been turned down or get no attention from guys who look like this their whole life.

or

B) They know that a large percentage of people who go to the gym a lot are total dbags that no one wants to talk to let alone date or hang out with a lot.


But don't be surprised girls ALWAYS lie when they take surveys and stuff. These girls will still definitely bang guys with good bodies. They just say stuff like this just like they say they like guys who read, are sweet, etc. What girls say they want is not what they want and everyone knows that.

[Edited on September 5, 2012 at 5:07 PM. Reason : a]

9/5/2012 5:05:58 PM

Or we just honestly don't like the look as much.

But we're women, so clearly we don't really know what we actually want.

9/5/2012 5:07:20 PM

^ exactly.

9/5/2012 5:08:55 PM

To be fair, guys do stuff like this too sometimes.

You see it play out all the time on the internet. Someone posts a picture of a hot girl and a chorus erupts of guys saying "she's too skinny for me" or "i don't like her pouty lips in that picture".

What they are really saying is "hot girls never talk to me so I have conditioned myself to find girls who are closer to my level more attractive."


You hear this all the time with things like "I think she's really cute", "i like slightly bigger girls", "girl next door", etc.

Look no one finds people who eat a lot of ice cream sexy. Just like no one prefers being broke or sick. What they see is someone who will say yes and it makes them feel better about themselves to pretend that is their "type".

9/5/2012 5:14:57 PM

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"i think the reason most girls are SAYING they don't want the ripped bodies is because of two reasons."

Whoa whoa whoa... Who said no to ripped bodies? The highest rated on those surveys are pretty buff. They aren't overboard, but they're still ripped.

It's definitely a happy medium thing. And for me, I really don't want a guy that is too skinny, but neither do I want a guy who looks like he's had enough steroids to shrink his balls up inside of him.

9/5/2012 5:23:09 PM

But what if they shrink his balls just right?

9/5/2012 6:36:23 PM

They should've avoided recognizable celebrity bodies and found pics of guys with similar builds. The idea that women don't go for super muscular guys isn't new. The celebrities that get women screaming (Robert Pattinson, Leo DiCaprio when Titanic came out, etc) never have bodies like that.

9/5/2012 6:55:10 PM

Ok, honestly

The one that caught my eye the most was "strongfat (bear mode)" further down the page

Obviously Edward Norton and Ryan Reynolds are hottie mchottitons (brad Pitt weirds me out bc he looks like my stepdad) but idk.. That bear mode dude tickles my fancy

9/5/2012 7:05:27 PM