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y0willy0
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How long is this going to continue?

What do you actually want Geniusboy?

12/5/2012 7:55:13 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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I have bad news for you.

Your problems will continue forever because I am simply not the problem.

Remove me from the equation and the Salem witchhunters will pick someone new to gang up on. The cycle is really easy to see especially when people namedrop the users like salisburyboy and the way the userbase have treated him and others like him.

What drives these trolls crazy is that they've never dealt with someone like me who can take their bullshit forever. I mean, look at how many threads have been made to ban me. They can't beat me, so they resort to cheap tactics of calling for suspension.

All I have to do is simply post in a thread and they say I'm derailing it.

Let me know if you think these are relevant, on-topic posts.

Mr. Joshua
I assume that he has an elementary understanding of fractions, unless someone else is slicing the pizza for him.
Mr. Joshua
Zerohedge is a website for people who huff paint.
Mr. Joshua
Show me potato salad.
Mr. Joshua
Tell that to the philosophy major who served me beer last night.
Mr. Joshua
Good move, I'd hate to see you ruin this gem of a thread you've put together.
Mr. Joshua
No, it's really not. Also, you're an idiot.


You guys have no qualms with Mr. Joshua not participating in discussions but for some reason you have problems with people like me that actually post articles and information regarding the topic.

By the way Mr. Joshua is not the only one that does this.

You have jazon

Here's PizzaJokeJazon in action
/message_topic.aspx?topic=625896&page=1#15332701

Here's JaZon thinking he's contributing to a thread, when all he is doing is talking about me.
/message_topic.aspx?topic=625600&page=5

jaZon: Everyone was already laughing at you, dummy.
jaZon: Because he refuses to be wrong
jaZon: Can you try to GET on topic in the first place?
JaZon: [Edited on October 11, 2012 at 5:17 PM. Reason : heh, foolish is pretty much handing it to you and you're oblivious]"
jaZon: Stop focusing on me and get back to your rambling responses to foolish.
jaZon: You're a fucking moron. Str8Foolish has done nothing but provide rational and intelligent responses to your meandering and incomprehensible bullshit. Do him the courtesy of admitting you're a moron or actually make a legit argument."


then you have dtownral, bullet, IMstoned, St8_foolish.

12/5/2012 9:11:03 PM

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This guy is nuts

12/5/2012 9:57:24 PM

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Cute. You have quotes of people being smartasses. I wonder what they are responding too?

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"Let's put your money where your mouth is.


Show me a graph.

x= #of dollars printed and disbursed
y= price of goods

[domain x>0 to infinity]
[range y>0 to infinity]
aaaaaaaaaand go!"


To which you get a straightforward answer:

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"I'll go


|
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price of |
goods |
in dollars|
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# of dollars
printed


You might note that the graph looks fairly empty. That's because you didn't actually state a function to graph, so it was pretty easy, but even more pointless.
"


To which you respond in a smartass manner:

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"Function: show me the curve that illustrates the behavior of #of dollars printed and disbursed and its affects on the price of goods"


To which you are flatly told:

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"That's not math."


You say:

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"Kris can't do it. Anyone else care to give it a shot?"


You get an honest answer by Str8Foolish:

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"Not enough information to complete. Are we assuming that both demand for dollars and the supply of goods are constant? Because neither of those are true in the real world. Typically a "function" has a defined relationship between the variables, not "Read my mind and convert my broken understanding of this relationship into a graph".

We've been through this, if the relationship was as simple as you thought it was then every single item would cost 3x what it did 10 years ago. Oh wait, but as you said, they're hiding the inflation. Everybody. Every single retailer on planet Earth. By putting it in differently sized syrup bottles and using high fructose corn syrup instead of corn syrup. FEMA camps. HAARP. Flouride."


You decide to avoid every single fucking question. Not one answer to the question. You ask them to graph something. They tell you not enough information and ask you what type of assumptions should they make and tell you that some are not realistic. You just respond:

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"There is enough information.

I guess you just failed your exam.

Continue on joking me about my inability to do math without your own ability to do math.
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Yes, people are "trolling" you as whatever you call it. What do you expect? You ask them something, they ask you for sources, more information, ect to answer a question, and you avoid giving answers and information, and instead resort to insults yourself with a smug of superiority.

So I call you out on your annoying bullshit:

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"Faggotxboy, stop wasting people's time with your stupid merry-go-round bullshit of asking people to prove a point for you that you can't manage to do yourself. If you've got facts/graphs/data to prove your point, then post them. Don't expect other people to do it for you. If you have actual data that shows the amount of money in the economy and its effect on the price of goods, then fucking post it."


To which you respond:

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"Dare you to walk up to your professor the next time he hands out a test using that speech. You'd probably get kicked out of school for being a moron and not understanding the concept of a test."


Your response indicates that you are the professor and we are the children here to learn from you. You know god damn well that is trolling.

So back to your stupid graph scenario:

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"This isn't a trick question. It's straight forward. Answer it with differential equations if you'd like. I'm not limiting your resources."


You are asked:

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"GXB draw me a graph

y - price of goods
x - number of goods in the economy

assume a fixed money supply
"


Do you answer it? Nope. Why not?

Well, you say:

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"How is someone that can't answer my question going to quiz me on something similar?"


So, they don't answer your question because they say not enough information is given. They ask you a similar question and you avoid it.

All you have to say is:

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""Hey professor, solve this similar problem first, then I'll go sit down and tell you the answer to the question you asked"


This might have worked for your professors, but it doesn't work on me.
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Eventually you're asked:

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"Goddamn GeniusBoy, what fucking point are you trying to prove? What the fuck is wrong with your brain?"


To which you say:

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"The point I'm proving is that the posters in this thread don't have the mathematical credibility to back up their solutions to the fiscal cliff."


And then you get a response of:

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"You don't have the mathematical ability to back up anything you say at all. You just say things and tell people to prove you wrong. That's not how things work. If you assert something, you need to be able to back it up. "


To which you say:

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"You have 100% no credibility that you know anything about my credibility.

I, on the other hand, have proven that you all have no credibility until someone can answer the simple question."


You assert that you are credible by default and that nobody is credible because they can't answer a question you posed after asking for actual information to answer your question.

Then you give in:

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"There are rules and order to follow. I posed the first question.

Answer it or surrender.

When everyone surrenders, then I'll tell you the answer.
"


And finally in an effort to move your stupid question forward and the thread somewhere:

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"okay, we surrender. Please show us the graph
"


To which you say:

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"http://www.thewolfweb.com/photos/00528972.jpG"


Really? A fucking graph you drew up in Paint? No explanation, nothing. No sources.

You are then asked:

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"Ah, question, professor. Why does the relationship appear quadratic, and not linear? Or is the x axis on a logarithmic scale? What are the units?[quote]

To which you say:

[quote]Z = number of dollars printed
P = Population

Z has to be dispersed over P. Therefore Z =/= Z and it can't be linear unless population grows at the same rate as money. But we know money is printed faster than the growth of people.

Since the amount of money each person owns is smaller than Z, then the amount of money each person has will always be a slower and smaller number than the number of bills being printed.


When x approaches infinity, y will be a smaller growing infinity, but will become infinity nonetheless.
Therefore when everyone has infinite money in their pockets, it would take an infinite amount of money to buy something because people wouldn't sell anything if you already have all the money that can be conceived."


To which you are told:

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"Z isn't dispersed over population, it's dispersed over the net goods and services in the economy. That's how money works, it represents goods and services, not people. And you still haven't said a word about liquidity preference."


So you say:

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"Yeah, inseparably based in part on the supply of those goods and services.

As the supply of goods and services changes, so do the prices people "set" on them.

It's almost as though there are more variables in the "price of goods" than the money supply."


You then ask:

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"Perhaps you can answer your own question if I pose another question...


If everyone had infinity amount of dollars, how much would the price of goods and services be?"


Why not just engage in discussion with him instead of asking another question that you will avert other questions to and go round and round and round on...

Kris asks:

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"What does population have to do with the original problem? You're moving goalposts. The relationship must be linear because you cant have something cost more money than exists and you can't have negative goods and services. As things do not have to be asymptotic as the approach infinity, for example the function that actually represents your original problem: f(x)=x. This function approaches infinity on both x and y axis, yet does not look like f(x)=x*x. If you think it should, then explain to me why printing 1 extra dollar makes the price of goods go up at a multiple of the current dollars in existence rather than making the price of goods go up 1 dollar."


To which you just say:

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"The population isn't part of the problem, it's part of the explanation."


You ignored the rest of his question though....

He then asks:

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"Where is this explained in the problem? There is no way to know what relationship 'P' has with 'X' (or 'Z' as you inexplicably renamed it)."


To which all you say is:

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"Problems don't explain anything, explanations explain problems. In this case, the explanation with P answered a separate question. This is why I renamed the variables."


Then it is pointed out:

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"You were annoying before, now you're getting real annoying, acting all arrogant like somehow you're the only one who understands math, and answering every questions with a question of your own "




The whole point is, people are engaging you in discussion. They are talking to you. The problem is, you avoid questions, you fail to engage back, you throw shit out as fact with nothing to back it up. People aren't trolling you, they are frustrated with your lack of responses, inability to explain yourself and general failure to hold up your end of the conversation. Any reasonable person can tell that you're either a fucking moron or you're trolling. The problem is nobody wants to do anything about you. My guess is because you and EMCE are tight.

12/5/2012 10:01:54 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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Even with your poor and biased commentary, I look like the good guy. Thanks.

12/5/2012 10:07:11 PM

merbig
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How do you look like the good guy when you are avoiding questions posed to you and fail to carry the conversation forward? How do you look like the good guy when you're putting yourself up on a pedestal? How do you look like the good guy when you're told that your "analysis" is too simplistic and leaves a lot of questions unanswered that you choose not to answer?

12/5/2012 10:09:32 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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Because you are somehow blind to the 8 people who avoided my 1 and only question.

12/5/2012 10:16:32 PM

merbig
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They didn't avoid it. They couldn't answer your question because it was a bad question.

12/5/2012 10:19:45 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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and what's your excuse for not answering my most recent question?

and why do you not say anything about Bullet derailing the thread?

there is no question that I'm on topic.

12/5/2012 10:29:49 PM

Bullet
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why do you feel that every thread you enter must be dominated by your questions, when you won't answer a single question directed at you?

i mean, seriously, i find you amusing, and i know you're a smart guy, but you should try the "light-footprint" approach more often, instead of trying to dominate certain threads with your rhetorical circle-jerks.

[Edited on December 5, 2012 at 10:42 PM. Reason : ]

12/5/2012 10:38:13 PM

merbig
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^^ Because I'm not entering a circle jerk of stupid with you.

12/5/2012 10:49:22 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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Can you please tell me how asking him who he talking about in particular when he uses phrases like "the gop", "some republicans", and "nut job tea partiers" is dominating discussion?

12/5/2012 10:50:00 PM

Bullet
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I'm pretty sure you know who he's talking about when he says "GOP", "some republicans", and "nut job tea partiers". You know his biases and the context and in which he's using those terms.

You're just trolling or being completely obtuse. You should either constructively engage in the discussion, or tread lightly with your conspiracy posts (which i enjoy, in moderation). And with that rant, I'll ignore g-boy for a while, i promise.

12/5/2012 11:09:39 PM

theDuke866
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"and what's your excuse for not answering my most recent question?"


because that's generally the best course of action.

12/5/2012 11:48:34 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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double standards all over the place.

12/5/2012 11:56:22 PM

theDuke866
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You can join imstoned420 if it will satisfy your desire for equal treatment.


But no, it's not a double standard--much of what you post warrants only to be ignored. Others post more well-considered arguments that warrant discussion.

12/6/2012 1:13:29 AM

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will you please just suspend this fucker already duke. he's proven time after time that he's nothing but a troll.

12/6/2012 2:21:00 AM

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it amuses me to no end that he is allowed to just spew shit all over the forums. i don't think there is a single person who wants him around.

he's collectively been voted off the island, but the moderators, for whatever misguided reason, are letting him hang around.

and theDuke866, i read your post in TSB about ignoring him. do you really think that's possible? even if ONE person engages him, the thread is pretty much ruined.

12/6/2012 9:45:11 AM

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The kid brings down the average IQ here by at least 20 points.

12/6/2012 9:54:31 AM

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Theduke, if you're telling us to ignore him, and you admit tha he's pretty much doing all of this shit on purpose, then whats the point of letting him stay?

But yes, I personally would like seeing stupid/trolls to the absurd extent of gxboy gone from TSB. Chitchat, it's ok, as it is chit chat. But can some discussion actually take place in TSB without having the thread derailed by "the professor." He's done this shit in the tech forum too.

12/6/2012 10:42:57 AM

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Can you please tell me how asking him who he talking about in particular when he uses phrases like "the gop", "some republicans", and "nut job tea partiers" is

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"-much of what you post warrants only to be ignored. "

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"he's proven time after time that he's nothing but a troll."

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"The kid brings down the average IQ here by at least 20 points."


I'm definitely the one being trolled and you all collectively act like the victims.

12/6/2012 11:07:12 AM

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that's because we all collectively think you ruin threads and wish you would take your ball and go home

12/6/2012 11:28:18 AM

GeniuSxBoY
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What if I told you...


you are the ones ruining your own threads.

12/6/2012 11:31:02 AM

merbig
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If answering your question with another question in the same manner that you answer questions with questions is trolling, then how is what you do not trolling?

12/6/2012 11:32:34 AM

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"If answering your question with another question in the same manner that you answer questions with questions is trolling, then how is what you do not trolling?"



The question that you posed was in inquiry into who I thought you were talking about. I have no clue who you're talking about that is why I asked. There are 435 members in the House, and 100 members in the senate, there are people like Reince Priebus who is the head of the Republican National Commitee. Then you called tea partiers nut jobs which it's impossible to call them nut jobs without calling Boehner a nut job and Boehner isn't a tea partier, so I am genuinely confused about who you are talking about.

12/6/2012 11:38:34 AM

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I enjoy reading Sports Talk a lot, the coach search and UNC scandal coverage lead me to finally get a sn. In addition to Sports Talk, I really enjoyed the discussions in the Soap Box. There have been some great posters and I've changed my opinion on a few issues because of them. Of course there are a lot of posters I disagree with, and some who have a different understanding logic than I do, but they all engage and debate. Sometimes they are bad arguments, sometimes mine are bad arguments, but they are arguments and discussions. That's the difference between everyone else and you.

You just try to play the smart guy, and think that posting something you think is witty will make it clear that you know more about the issue or that a youtube video or random link is an adequate explanation. You think that not responding will lead people to think you just know so much more that you can't be bothered to reply. You really seem to think that we are all here to engage you, and that if we don't respond to an obtuse point or question that you posted, its because your point was so good that we can't respond to it. Let me be very clear about this: none of those assumptions are true. We all find you annoying. The people who post in support of you, they like you because they can laugh at you. I have no idea what kind of person you are in real life, but on the internet you really need to chill out and take a step back.

12/6/2012 11:53:32 AM

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sparky
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dude you need to stop trolling and derailing threads or your time in the shit-can will be very soon.

GeniuSxBoY^suspend - derailing thread. has no mention of the fiscal cliff. sparky's one an only post in the entire thread.
sparky: ^^ don't fuck with me dude!



Hey look, another person who thinks it's okay to troll me and be off topic in the thread.

12/6/2012 12:06:41 PM

Bullet
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Dude, do you seriously not understand why people are "trolling" you and asking you to stop derailing threads? Do you really not understand, or are you being intentionally obtuse for attention?

12/6/2012 12:43:51 PM

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[Edited on December 6, 2012 at 1:00 PM. Reason : nothing to see here, move along]

12/6/2012 12:52:42 PM

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geniusboy is correct that many of you are just as much at fault for threads getting derailed, because you continue to engage him. many of you conduct yourselves with less civility and respect than geniusboy has as well. there's a LOT of leniency here about allowing yourself to be goaded into stupid arguments with others, and how civil you choose to be with each other. this is why geniusboy and you people have been able to let this drag on for so long (and this isn't limited to geniusboy either - there is ALWAYS some segment of users here who follow this pattern). both sides of this argument are at fault. however, in my judgement, geniusboy's activity here has shifted further from just expressing his opinions and more toward being only intended to rile up others and making TSB equivalent of euphalo padding. and now he is suspended and will not be welcome back. i have not decided whether or not i will be taking a more aggressive approach against the rest of you who, in my judgement, are also guilty of making conversation here less than delightful. but like theduke said, if it happens you better watch out cus geniusboy isn't the only one who engages in these destructive patterns.

12/6/2012 12:57:59 PM

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geniusboy is correct"


who is gonna make qntmfred credibility watch

oh nvm you suspended gxb thank god

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

[Edited on December 6, 2012 at 1:08 PM. Reason : ]

12/6/2012 1:07:20 PM

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I will admit that when I see a thread made by GeniuSxBoY, I enter it with the intention to derail because chances are it contains nothing important anyway.

12/6/2012 1:15:15 PM

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"I will admit that when I see a thread made by GeniuSxBoY, I enter it with the intention to derail because chances are it contains nothing important anywaydon't click on it."

12/6/2012 1:32:32 PM

sparky
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i think it's funny that he tried to call me out for trolling him when I was giving him a warning....a warning that in retrospect was too late.

12/6/2012 1:41:37 PM

y0willy0
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alias countdown...

...and go!

12/6/2012 2:21:50 PM

Mr. Joshua
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"thank god"

12/6/2012 3:13:45 PM

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The question is, if users like GeniuSxBoY are getting the boot, how are users like pryderi and merbig still around? They're obvious trolls that make TWW the cesspool that it is.

[Edited on December 6, 2012 at 4:29 PM. Reason : ]

12/6/2012 4:08:05 PM

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Where do you draw the line

12/6/2012 4:23:05 PM

theDuke866
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^^ yeah in my view, they're as bad or worse

12/6/2012 4:31:16 PM

Krallum
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no one worthwhile reads TSB anyways. let i'm shit it up, just keep it out of the serious forums like chit chat

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

12/6/2012 4:41:39 PM

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^^ If you really feel that I am "worse," then do what you have to do. Not much I can do about it. I'm not going to lie or hide that I have in the past trolled in Chit Chat, nor am I going to promise to never do it again. Because we all know that damn near everyone in Chit Chat have at some point done it. I do at least take other sections seriously. But, if you would like in a PM point out an instance or two where I have crossed some line, I would be more than happy to discuss it in a civil manner.

12/6/2012 6:40:22 PM

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both pryderi and merbig have settled quite down over the last year in posting out of context comments or being completely annoying. When I see them post some stupid shit, at least they kept it in CC in threads that are meant to be stupid and troll-bait. GSB did not.

12/8/2012 5:23:22 AM

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^, ^^ Yeah, I'm talking on the whole, not specifically confined to TSB or over the last couple of weeks.

12/9/2012 6:19:11 PM

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pryderi just posts a dumb picture and then peaces out, i don't find it particularly distracting

12/10/2012 8:49:12 AM

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