pretentious name, unbelievable lineup (aka the festival with neutral milk hotel)



[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 1:07 AM. Reason : d'oh]

4/30/2013 1:06:52 AM

who in the shit are bass nectar and pretty lights?

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 1:15 AM. Reason : if i wasn't expected a child in sept i'd be pumped for nmh and gybe]

4/30/2013 1:14:51 AM

who is bassnectar and pretty lights ? what the fuck ? is that a joke ?

4/30/2013 2:17:53 AM

Pretty Lights and Bassnectar are two of the worst artists on earth.

However, they are very popular with people who have terrible taste and enjoy psychedelic drugs.

Outside of those two, that lineup is outstanding.

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 2:45 AM. Reason : T]

4/30/2013 2:44:39 AM

Not a really a fan of Bassnectar, but Pretty Lights is awesome. I'd actually go to this if I still lived in NC...

vinylbandit is allergic to anything that would make you want to dance though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8hXUWLxNmQ

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 3:48 AM. Reason : .]

4/30/2013 3:38:35 AM

^

although his indie music taste is pretty solid

4/30/2013 3:52:05 AM

It's true.

I own hundreds of funk & soul records because I really hate danceable grooves.

4/30/2013 3:53:21 AM

can you actually dance?

somehow I doubt it

4/30/2013 3:56:23 AM

Of course I can't dance. I'm white. What does that have to do with anything in this thread?

4/30/2013 3:57:52 AM

thanks for proving my point

to actually enjoy DANCE MUSIC, you should, you know, BE ABLE TO DANCE. It's kinda lame to stand around with your thumbs in your pockets and claim everything sucks when you aren't even at a party to dance in the first place...

Wake up dude, it's 2013... people actually enjoy dancing at festivals instead of standing around lighting lighters or swaying awkwardly

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 4:02 AM. Reason : .]

4/30/2013 4:00:34 AM

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"to actually enjoy DANCE MUSIC, you should, you know, BE ABLE TO DANCE."

This is incredibly stupid. You're suggesting that people who aren't good dancers shouldn't be able to enjoy the music? Or that if I'm not a great singer, I can't appreciate those who are? On top of that, you're also suggesting that without dancing, the music is useless, which is even more critical of it than I'm being.

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"It's kinda lame to stand around with your thumbs in your pockets and claim everything sucks when you aren't even at a party to dance."

Who's talking about a party? I'm talking about pieces of music. I wouldn't go to a party where they're playing this shit, but I wouldn't stop anyone from going, either. My friend sarijoul asked me who these artists were, and I told him. I know they're huge. That doesn't make them good. Katy Perry is huge, too.

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"Wake up dude, it's 2013..."

It sure is. And?

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"instead of standing around lighting lighters or swaying awkwardly"

Wake up dude, it's 2013...

NO ONE HAS DONE THIS FOR TWENTY-FIVE YEARS

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 4:06 AM. Reason : 3]

4/30/2013 4:05:15 AM

i mean ... if you've been around for 20 years, you're probably doing something correct...


that being said, bassnectar is infinitely better live than on "cd." I rarely listen to him at my house, but i'd go see him live whenever i could

4/30/2013 4:09:51 AM

You're missing my point. You shit all over DANCE MUSIC for no real reason other than the fact that you don't like it. It actually makes total sense, given that it's a fucking genre that you're not really the target demographic for, since you can't/don't dance. Why the fuck would you like it?

It's cool that you own a lot of records and have a keen eye/ear for some indie bands a lot of people have never heard of. But Christ, you sound like fucking Scrumples. Sour as fuck about a genre you have no propensity/proclivity to even enjoy in the first place...

These people are headlining a fucking festival, because people enjoy dancing to their music. The Katy Perry comparison is retarded and you know it.


[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 4:14 AM. Reason : .]

4/30/2013 4:10:42 AM

I don't dislike all dance music, but I do find little of value in this particular flavor of it.

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"These people are headlining a fucking festival, because people enjoy dancing to their music. The Katy Perry comparison is retarded and you know it."

Should I compare them to Limp Bizkit? Just like the nu-metal heavyweights, PL & BN are popular artists in a popular subgenre, booked to sell tickets to a section of the public who won't care about the artists with more "cred" that populate the lineup (and I included NIN in that).

In that sense it's a well-booked festival, as the 2,400 people murdering each other to get into the Neutral Milk Hotel gig don't give a fuck about Pretty Lights and vice versa.

4/30/2013 4:21:23 AM

meh

4/30/2013 4:23:52 AM

Well thanks for at least admitting that DANCE MUSIC isn't your thing. It's not for everyone. Especially people who don't like to dance or be around large groups of people that do.

And you keep throwing out shitty artists and comparing them to ones that knowledgeable EDM fans enjoy. It really shows your ignorance about the genre and that you think you're better than everyone who enjoys it. I don't really like Bassnectar either, but I don't say the people who do have terrible taste in music and call them druggies.

I stopped shitting on people's preferences for music I didn't like back in like high school or maybe my freshman year of college. It makes you sound like a total tool and you don't really gain anything from putting people down. Well maybe YOU do, but I have better things to do with my time than bashing artists/groups from genres I don't even listen to anyway...like staying up til 1:30 am to watch a fucking baseball game in the 19th inning


[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 4:32 AM. Reason : .]

4/30/2013 4:28:41 AM

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"I don't really like Bassnectar either, but I don't say the people who do have terrible taste in music and call them druggies."

I didn't say this.

I said they are extremely popular with those sorts of people, which is absolutely true in my direct personal experience.

Granted, this is not the fault of the artists, and I'm sure said artists have plenty of reputable fans who also like good shit. But I'm not at all saying, "I hate this genre, and if you like it, you're dumb."

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 4:39 AM. Reason : 2]

4/30/2013 4:37:30 AM

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"However, they are very popular with people who have terrible taste and enjoy psychedelic drugs. "

to be fair, you pretty much did

4/30/2013 4:38:02 AM

The Grateful Dead are also extremely popular among people with terrible taste and druggies.

They made some great music, and a lot of terrible music.

Correctly characterizing a segment of society as fans of a band is not the same thing as characterizing a band's entire fanbase.

4/30/2013 4:42:21 AM

we both know it is when you only present one side of that characterization. especially when it's blatantly obvious you did it on purpose

4/30/2013 4:43:59 AM

I mean I guess I'm being a bit defensive or whatever, but you did the exact same thing when you shat all over the Infected Mushroom thread. In fact, you shat all over them before you even listened to them, basing your opinion on the band's name and their album art. And then when you listened to like 2 or 3 songs by them, BIG SURPRISE, you compared them to Limp Bizket. I guess that's your default, shitty comparison point when you don't feel like actually listening to more than 5 tracks by an artist that you didn't want to listen to anyway.

Sorry man. Just calling you out for acting like a total tool. I'm sure I'm not the first, and I won't be the last.

Do you really want to go through life acting that way? It's a pretty shitty way to view the world and treat people. It's fine to not be into something or even dislike it, but when you make it your mission to trash what other people like, it's pretty revealing about your character. All that knowledge and your huge vinyl collection really must not make you that happy, huh?



[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 4:51 AM. Reason : A's win, I'm out ]

4/30/2013 4:44:01 AM

I didn't base an opinion of their music on their name and art, I based an opinion of their name and art on name and art. My opinion of their music is, admittedly, based on the three tracks I listened to. I would've listened to more than three, but I was honestly offended by them.

I apologize for using Limp Bizkit as a standard reference point, but when anyone presents the argument, "BUT THEY'RE REALLY POPULAR" as a reason that something is good, it's the next best thing to using N'Sync as an example. It's also more appropriate, considering the demographic similarity to today's popular EDM audience.

4/30/2013 4:51:01 AM

Except it's not.

Pretty Lights, Infected Mushroom, and even Bassnectar are all incredibly talented. It's one thing to just be mass-produced crap that appeals to the mainstream, but it's another to have been around for a while, putting out multiple albums and touring the world, making not a lot of money, and still having a small dedicated fanbase without a lot of notoriety until fairly recently.

Limp Bizket and Katy Perry might be popular, but come the fuck on... And N'Sync? A manufactured boy band? Now you're really just being insulting...

I think you have a HUGE misconception about EDM fans. Yeah, there's been a recent wave of US popularity among the 18-21 year-old Facebook crowd, but they don't speak for the rest of us. As someone who likes 'Indie' music, I'd think you'd know better than to overgeneralize and stereotype a group of people- especially one thats been around for a while and has had a global following for quite some time. And no, I'm not an 18-21 year old fanboy, I've been into to Trance/Techno/House since the mid nineties before it was ever 'cool'. Feel free to call me a hipster if it makes you feel better, only I'm not bitter that the music I've enjoyed for years is getting a lot of attention- the more that like it, the merrier.

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 5:02 AM. Reason : .]

4/30/2013 4:54:21 AM

If you hear incredible musical talent there, that's great. I don't.

There are lots of bands that have worked their way to the top and earned their fanbases while not being very good. I give them credit for their hard work, but I don't have to give them credit for their music.

4/30/2013 4:58:38 AM

CREDIT =/= liking someone!

Do you have PhD in music?

Talent to me is having some sense of musicality, originality, and getting people to enjoy your music, or even DANCE, if you're an EDM ARTIST.

Sorry, I don't have to like someone to acknowledge they are good at delivering the type of music to their intended audience. That's called giving someone credit for being a musician...

But honestly, who the fuck are you to judge? Are you a DJ that's played gigs all over the country to promote your music? Never heard of you if you are..

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 5:08 AM. Reason : .]

4/30/2013 5:03:35 AM

Giving credit for musicianship and giving credit for music are two very different things.

These guys are good at making these tracks. I still think they're bad tracks.

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"But honestly, who the fuck are you to judge? Are you a DJ that's played gigs all over the country to promote your music? Never heard of you if you are.."

This is not how criticism works. I don't have to be a Division 1 basketball player to say that CJ Leslie needs to learn how to control his emotions during a game.

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 5:11 AM. Reason : 2]

4/30/2013 5:09:27 AM

Based on the way you label/judge/stereotype/criticize/put down music, I don't really think your OPINION on a genre you don't even listen to holds much water.

This has been fun though. Enjoy not having a good time at a festival I'm not going to attend anyway

I mean who DO you like? Daft Punk? Please, tell me about how revolutionary their new album is. I haven't heard enough about it on Facebook. Oh they suck too? What about Moby? No? The Chemical Brothers? The Crystal Method? Justice? I guess they must all suck too, and their respective fanbases must just all be high, burn out losers with no real taste for 'quality' music.

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 5:18 AM. Reason : .]

4/30/2013 5:12:46 AM

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"I don't really think your OPINION on a genre you don't even listen to holds much water."

Differences of opinion make the world go round, even when we're talking about something as inconsequential as pop music. That's why it's fun.

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"Enjoy not having a good time at a festival I'm not going to attend anyway"

Are you kidding? NEUTRAL MILK HOTEL is playing, not to mention GY!BE, Zola Jesus, and Gary Fucking Numan. If I go I'll have a fucking blast.

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 5:18 AM. Reason : 33]

4/30/2013 5:17:35 AM

I don't know who Neutral Milk Hotel is. It sounds like a retarded fucking name for a band and their album art is lame. Let me go listen to three tracks I know I won't enjoy so I can come back to you and compare them to bands that suck.

Ok I didn't really listen to them, but I bet they sound like The Wallflowers.

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 5:22 AM. Reason : .]

4/30/2013 5:20:05 AM

Just listened to " In the Aeroplane Over the Sea"

They sound like an annoying band you hear on the subway that you wish would stop playing. The trumpet/horn interlude in the middle was retarded.

THEY ARE THE LIMP BIZKET OF INDIE MUSIC!!1

4/30/2013 5:31:17 AM

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"I mean who DO you like? Daft Punk? Please, tell me about how revolutionary their new album is. I haven't heard enough about it on Facebook. Oh they suck too? What about Moby? No? The Chemical Brothers? The Crystal Method? Justice? I guess they must all suck too, and their respective fanbases must just all be high, burn out losers with no real taste for 'quality' music."

Now who's stereotyping?

I love Daft Punk, but there's nothing revolutionary about getting Nile Rodgers to do the one thing he's been doing excellently for forty years. I will say that the marketing campaign for that record is fucking brilliant. An unlabeled ten second ad during SNL is an incredible choice to make.

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"They sound like an annoying band you hear on the subway that you wish would stop playing."

That's not far off, really. It's just that this particular annoying, shambolic carnival band of overgrown children made one of the all-time classic albums in the modern rock canon.

4/30/2013 5:37:57 AM

OF COURSE you're a Daft Punk fan! How could I tell?

I actually like them too, but I've never encountered so many rabid EDM fans proclaiming their love for them until the past year or so. Marketing/hype is a crazy thing.

And I'm glad we agree that that song is terrible. For the record, 'Heavyweight' sucks too.

Now stop being a dick and calling acts like Pretty Lights and Bassnectar the worst artists on earth just to take a jab at EDM fans. You sound like a douche. There are plenty of acts that are far, far, worse

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 5:47 AM. Reason : .]

4/30/2013 5:45:46 AM

I was under the impression that everyone was a Daft Punk fan. I suppose I could be wrong.

In college I had a friend tell me that she didn't like Outkast, which I didn't think was humanly possible.

4/30/2013 5:51:24 AM

Nope. Not everyone likes Daft Punk. A lot of people think they're overrated or they hate house/dance music.

Many people dislike Outkast as well. I'm not really big into rap or hip-hop, but I definitely listened to the Stankonia album on a daily basis back in high school.

And these people aren't WRONG and without taste. I know your knee jerk reaction is to label them as such, but not everyone has to like everything and be a prick about what they think sucks...

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 5:58 AM. Reason : .]

4/30/2013 5:57:35 AM

Call me a prick if you like, but people who don't like "SpottieOttieDopaliscious" are wrong.

4/30/2013 6:00:19 AM

can we get back to how criminal this music festival is?

4/30/2013 7:51:24 AM

this turned out well

4/30/2013 9:05:16 AM

Anyway, I like Pretty Lights and I probably can't dance very well. Guess I just have shitty taste in music.

And I was listening to Nine Inch Nails before it was cool and after it was cool so there.

4/30/2013 9:32:48 AM

hahahahahahaha

that was absolutely amazing

really enjoyed the unneeded use of caps

4/30/2013 9:52:50 AM

I do not care for Bass Nectar or any similar music. But i am stoked about NMH and Daniel Johnston.

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 9:57 AM. Reason : i also don't love daft punk. some of it's ok, but i can't really get into it]

4/30/2013 9:55:41 AM

AC Entertainment is a smart company. frontload the festival with popular EDM acts that will sell a bunch of tickets to frat kids and people that have done too much molly, then stack the rest with absolutely killer shit. they do this every year. I didn't even get near Primus 3D (lol) or Shpongle last year, so it didn't bother me. it's probably the best festival in America. to be honest, I find Pretty Lights to be relatively inoffensive. boring, but they could have picked a much worse act, and people love the dude. Bassnectar is a talentless ass clown though. boggles the mind that that guy is as popular as he is.

but really, this lineup is ridiculous. and that's only a third of it. got my house booked downtown already.

4/30/2013 10:22:03 AM

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"Not a really a fan of Bassnectar, but Pretty Lights is awesome."

4/30/2013 10:27:07 AM

to be fair, I walked into Magnetic Fields at Moogfest last year and that was some of the most terrible live music I've ever heard. so it goes both ways.

4/30/2013 10:30:28 AM

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"It's just that this particular annoying, shambolic carnival band of overgrown children made one of the all-time classic albums in the modern rock canon."

On Avery Island is pretty good too.

4/30/2013 10:35:29 AM

Disclosure Jessie Ware and Rustie are the only ones that I'd be interested in.

4/30/2013 10:36:16 AM

No love for AnCo anymore?

4/30/2013 10:39:38 AM

Holy shit. I'm afraid to buy a ticket, because I'm sure Godspeed would drop out.

4/30/2013 11:11:35 AM

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"to actually enjoy DANCE MUSIC, you should, you know, BE ABLE TO DANCE. It's kinda lame to stand around with your thumbs in your pockets and claim everything sucks when you aren't even at a party to dance in the first place... Wake up dude, it's 2013... people actually enjoy dancing at festivals instead of standing around lighting lighters or swaying awkwardly"

...............

People that dance at festivals are not "ABLE TO DANCE"

your criteria is fucked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aBV32qzUJU

4/30/2013 12:15:58 PM

No clue what types of festivals you go to, but the ones I've been to, people are definitely dancing.

And NO, you don't have to be able to dance to enjoy dance music. My point was that it's dumb for somebody to rip on EDM when they don't even enjoy dancing in the first place. It's like someone ragging on heavy metal because they hate loud music or electric guitars.

[Edited on April 30, 2013 at 1:35 PM. Reason : .]

4/30/2013 1:34:45 PM

set em up

4/30/2013 1:37:09 PM