roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
7th rounder or free agent. 2/10/2014 12:15:29 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
3rd rounder or free agent. 2/10/2014 12:17:21 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
not the 49ers
Quote : | " "I don't do the gay guys. I don't do that,"
"We don't have any gay guys on the team," Culliver said. "They gotta get up outta here if they do. Can't be with that sweet stuff."" |
2/10/2014 1:08:34 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
oh the irony 2/10/2014 6:42:33 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
He may fall a bit. But not all 32 teams have to be on board and willing to take him. It only takes one team to draft him based on his workouts. 2/10/2014 8:16:39 AM |
jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
If he doesn't get drafted can he claim discrimination? 2/10/2014 8:22:14 AM |
LOS827 All American 1529 Posts user info edit post |
who is Michael Sam? 2/10/2014 8:22:52 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
some of the dumbest shit in sports. 2/10/2014 9:16:06 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Meh. I don't think he falls much at all. Yeah a couple teams may be wary of the impact on team chemistry and the media hype that will come along with him, but some team like Seattle or NE will just see value in his skills and draft him. Plus whatever team does draft him will get much love from the press so it'll be like free advertising for that team. 2/10/2014 9:31:18 AM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
the only advertising a team needs is winning games.
other than that, i'm not sure why this is front page news. he must have just wanted attention. 2/10/2014 9:35:46 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Considering I had never heard of him, it's worked so far. 2/10/2014 9:37:25 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Dude was an All American and SEC DPOY so it's not like he's Brandon Mitchell trying to get a team to notice that he plays football. 2/10/2014 10:43:09 AM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the only advertising a team needs is winning games.
other than that, i'm not sure why this is front page news. he must have just wanted attention." |
Exactly, the only reason he's doing this is to draw attention to himself, which IMO, is stupid and unnecessary.
[Edited on February 10, 2014 at 10:55 AM. Reason : it is definitely not worth the front page attention it's getting]2/10/2014 10:54:56 AM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Considering I had never heard of him, it's worked so far." |
seems to be the case for all these athletes that "come out", just an attention grab, like Tebow with his "christianity"2/10/2014 11:06:24 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
oh cool
it only took a few posts for some stupid shit 2/10/2014 11:42:59 AM |
modlin All American 2642 Posts user info edit post |
Supposedly people/scouts/etc were starting to wonder/gossip so he decided to speak up about it.
He didn't just pipe up out of nowhere. 2/10/2014 12:02:54 PM |
Wyld Stallyn Suspended 1087 Posts user info edit post |
Any GM that would have taken him before this but now passes on him is either stupid or believes his team is made up of retarded immature rednecks.
That said, he'll be a steal for someone in the 5th or 6th, probably somewhere like New England or Seattle or maybe Oakland since they have a history of firsts (first black coach, first Hispanic coach, etc).
A team in the biggest football conference in FBS that had a very successful season was obviously fine with this. Like I said, turn him down at your own peril if he's the best on the board.
Quote : | "like Tebow with his "christianity"" |
Yeah boy isn't it shocking to find out that there are Christians in high places in America
[Edited on February 10, 2014 at 12:10 PM. Reason : v]2/10/2014 12:07:46 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "retarded immature rednecks" |
this is men's sports. not saying there aren't plenty of open-minded and classy athletes, but there are plenty of immature, close-minded, "retarded" (or just plain dumb) ones as well. although i don't think the term "redneck" fits all of them.
[Edited on February 10, 2014 at 12:18 PM. Reason : ]2/10/2014 12:15:46 PM |
Wyld Stallyn Suspended 1087 Posts user info edit post |
ok, substitute the word "ignoramus." I don't care.
you ever considered that assuming that "men will be men" means men will be awful is pretty insulting to a whole lotta people on the whole?
more people don't care than you think. 2/10/2014 12:22:35 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
i didn't say "men will be men". i know that there are plenty of athletes that don't care about his sexuality. however, (unfortunately) i think more care than you think. 2/10/2014 12:30:42 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
The twist will be that there's been loads of gay sex in every NFL locker room all these years. 2/10/2014 1:06:02 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
His teammates at Mizzou had no issue at all with sexuality. What's different about the nfl? More close mindedness? 2/10/2014 1:15:23 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^how do you know they were all okay with it? was he open about it to them?
Quote : | " "I don't do the gay guys. I don't do that,"
"We don't have any gay guys on the team," Culliver said. "They gotta get up outta here if they do. Can't be with that sweet stuff.""" |
Quote : | "I'm not sayin I hate gays but that is sumthin that i would not wnt in my locker room....
John Amaechi is to big to be gay #i'mjustsaying
I'm no anti-gay But I would rather not have a gay n the locker room" |
There's plenty of average americans that feel this way, and I imagine there's a higher percentage in sports, particularly football.2/10/2014 1:22:48 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Yes. He told them all before the season started.
edsbs on point here
Quote : | "There are a lot of total strangers who consider themselves involved in Michael Sam's coming out story.
The first total stranger might be THE PERSON WHO ASSUMES THIS IS ABOUT THEM. This person is most likely the one seen saying "Why is this news," a piece of code that means, "Please don't talk about your gayness around me." They surely weren't running around Facebook last year tagging your shared video of Felix Baumgartner jumping from a space balloon with the same fervor, or doing this about other news. If they were, kudos to them for consistency, and for posting "WHY IS THIS NEWS BABIES ARE BORN EVERY DAY" under the pictures of your newborn you posted last year.
This is all news, because Michael Sam is the first openly gay man to enter the NFL Draft as someone likely to be drafted, and also because being gay is still the subject of some really archaic laws still on the books in a number of these United States. "Only the media cares," says someone who clearly is protesting too much, and would love to take the opportunity to tell you at length how much they do not at all care." |
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/2/10/5397454/michael-sam-comes-out-reaction-nfl-draft
[Edited on February 10, 2014 at 1:33 PM. Reason : .]2/10/2014 1:28:24 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
good on them 2/10/2014 1:30:57 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27837 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Exactly, the only reason he's doing this is to draw attention to himself, which IMO, is stupid and unnecessary. " |
No.
[Edited on February 10, 2014 at 1:33 PM. Reason : I'm slow]2/10/2014 1:32:31 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^how do you know they were all okay with it? was he open about it to them?" |
Yep. He came out to his team before the season. Every article I've read mentioned how nobody on the team expressed concern about his sexuality b
[Edited on February 10, 2014 at 1:37 PM. Reason : ^that type of shit just seems ignorant to me. ]2/10/2014 1:36:47 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
they were so distracted by it they went 12-2 and won the Cotton Bowl
all while raving about the chemistry the team had 2/10/2014 1:38:33 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
I like Donte Stallworth's take on the situation: https://twitter.com/DonteStallworth 2/10/2014 1:54:35 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only thing that can explain NFL coaches and GMs is that each and every one's father was killed in cold blood by a Distraction" |
2/10/2014 1:58:50 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
he was the best player on that team so they had to respect him. it will be different when he is a rookie in the nfl.
a lot of players have said they would not be in the same locker room with a gay guy. he came out to protect himself from ending up on a team that has that culture. 2/10/2014 5:28:55 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
It's sad that anonymous NFL execs and front office would let that kind of bigotry dictate their personnel decisions.
How is that kind of thinking different from racial prejudices in the locker room? Get over it or get the hell out. 2/10/2014 5:31:50 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
I imagine he'll get picked on more for having two first names. 2/10/2014 5:32:19 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
^^incognito? 2/10/2014 5:33:23 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
? 2/10/2014 5:34:13 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
You know better.2/10/2014 5:43:00 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
I find the "locker room culture" excuse of discrimination hilarious.
Like, "naw man, I can't shower with a gay man, that shit is gross!...but a straight guy? Fuck it, yo. Let's get soapy and have a party!"
The entire concept of male camaraderie practically survives off of latent homosexual behavior, anyway. So I don't really see the big fucking deal, here. 2/10/2014 6:00:46 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
not saying i agree, but most women don't want straight men to shower with them at the gym. 2/10/2014 6:03:15 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
but a gay man is a man, and not a woman
and gay men have always showered with straight men
seems like there were no locker room issues in Missouri this past season, probably because they were able to understand that this "argument" is asinine 2/10/2014 6:09:14 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Who? 2/10/2014 6:19:42 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
see with gay marriage i can see why its a big deal. it's because gay men are super promiscuous and people don't want the sanctity of marriage being marred by promiscuity.
But most all athletes are promiscuous so i dont see why it'd be a big deal.
I bet Philip Jesus Rivers is scared of getting sacked by his sac though 2/10/2014 6:20:49 PM |
EightyFour All American 1487 Posts user info edit post |
Wow, 40 posts and nobody has called him a faggot yet. Times have changed on TWW... 2/10/2014 8:40:22 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Plenty of women have no problem going to male gynecologists. And that's a much more intimate experience than, say, sharing a locker room with a gay man. 2/10/2014 8:51:28 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
So tired of hearing about homosexuals all the time in the news. Anytime someone comes out it is "groundbreaking". 2/10/2014 9:24:53 PM |
pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
I never heard anyone complain about sharing a locker room with Ray Lewis, maybe they thought he'd murder them too...since he's s murderer. Steelers didn't seem too distracted with Big Ben's affinity for rapes. 2/10/2014 9:35:27 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Even though there has never been an openly gay player in the country's most popular professional sports league, this guy coming out right now is not "groundbreaking" because I've seen stories about gay people on my local news having parades and not being able to get married or some other queer shit I didn't consider news at the time either. 2/10/2014 9:45:51 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
People who wish/think this shouldn't be a big story or important are misguided. It has to be a big deal today if it's going to be no big deal tomorrow.
It was a big deal when Lindbergh flew across the Atlantic, but now thousands of people do it every day. 2/10/2014 10:16:26 PM |
eli All American 1581 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "JACKSONVILLE
JAGUARS
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2/10/2014 10:33:15 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Won't fall any. The pack pride thread on this is quaint 2/10/2014 11:38:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
I wouldn't draft him just cause he has 2 first names 2/11/2014 4:36:05 PM |