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ncsuallday
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"Does the barb king have poor eyesight or something? "


In the most recent update they made it so he only patrols a certain area. You used to be able to draw out the heroes and kill them, but now they stay and defend their perimeter.

Your question about XP - XP doesn't really unlock anything except for decorations but it does have two important social roles. First, it shows people if you're actually experienced or you've gemmed a ton. Sometimes you'll see a player with skull walls throughout, TH10, etc. and be like a level 70 or whatever and you can tell they bought their base. Second, a lot of competitive clans use XP instead of trophies/troops/th-level as a criteria to be accepted to the clan.

I finally finished TH9 this weekend but holy shit, level 6 archers take TWO WEEKS to research and like $7.5 million elixir.

7/29/2014 9:54:49 AM

Fry
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what really sucks about the archer6 update is how little return there is on it. stat changes are almost negligible

7/29/2014 10:01:02 AM

steviewonder
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yeah, you basically pay 7.5m Elix and wait 2 weeks for a 10% performance gain in dps and hp... while having to pay 50% more elixer to train them. I may never make that upgrade.

Lv6 Wiz are similar, but at least they look really cool

7/29/2014 10:06:35 AM

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i would still upgrade archers. i use 80 of them per raid, so i think the small bump helps. but giants were my first upgrade. lvl 6 is a really nice upgrade for them.

7/29/2014 12:27:43 PM

TreeTwista10
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Some of my push notifications are wrong. It has previously said something like "your cannon has upgraded to level 6" then when I open the app, there is still 1 minute left on the upgrade. Just got one about my gold mine upgrade completing, but I opened the app and there are 16 minutes left?

7/29/2014 4:14:58 PM

steviewonder
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yeah mine does that like 15 mins before the upgrade completes

7/29/2014 6:10:52 PM

TreeTwista10
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Anybody played Boom Beach? Another Supercell app, kind of similar to Clash of Clans. Can only build/upgrade one thing at a time though. Tried it out today; I'll probably mess around with it a little more, but not sure how much I like it yet.

7/29/2014 7:48:58 PM

moonman
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I've been playing Boom Beach for about a month, and it's pretty fun. But it's more like, "Oh yeah, I haven't checked that game in a couple of days. Let's see what's going on over there."

I play Clash of Clans every day.

As for the archer upgrade, I'm a big fan of the level 6 archers. It's a small boost per archer, but the collective benefit is substantial.

7/29/2014 8:41:23 PM

NCSUALUM
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I just got asked to join the big house but since I have been farming don't have the required trophies

7/30/2014 3:48:43 PM

Fry
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lowered the trophy count.. do you still have the invitation or did it disappear? just request again if you need to - what's your name on coc?

[Edited on July 30, 2014 at 5:14 PM. Reason : ]

7/30/2014 5:12:04 PM

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I play Castle Clash...seems like a very similar game, though CoC seems to be more popular.

7/30/2014 6:26:01 PM

Panthro
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The latest 3 moving to The Big House will put me (Haymaker) close.

I gotta come through on these clan wars though. These upgrades in TH7 are painfully slow. I know it gets worse...but it's painful nonetheless.

By the way, what's the benefit of getting a ton of trophies before you're ready anyway?

I'm at lvl 51 exp points, TH 7, and recently got as high as 1450 in trophies. I could have been able to keep picking of shitty camps for 7-12 trophies, but why? I'm now farming and have dropped 300 trophies but have upgraded all mortars, wizard towers and spells. Feel like im in a good spot, but I much enjoy raiding and building as opposed to barely winning fights and losing elixir in the process.

7/30/2014 9:13:39 PM

TreeTwista10
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Once I got to 1250 trophies and saw the types and levels of bases I came across, I figured there's no way I'd make the Crystal League (3,000 2,000 trophies) until I got to at least a maxed out TH8.

[Edited on July 30, 2014 at 10:11 PM. Reason : .]

7/30/2014 9:49:45 PM

moonman
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I got to crystal league (purple shield/2000 trophies) with a TH8 base that was about halfway completed. I got to Crystal 1, 46 trophies short of master, with a mostly maxed TH9 using balloons and minions. I didn't get to master until I had a TH10 with every defense one off from being maxed. That's where I'm at now. I got to something like 2948 before I stalled out and started getting smoked on every defense. I was still winning raids with one star using balloons/minions, but I was gaining about 4-10 trophies and losing 15-20 within five minutes of logging off. I'm hovering around 2750-2800 trophies right now and winning more defenses than I'm losing. The league bonus (90k gold/90k elixir/500 DE) makes it worth staying.

I see absolutely no benefit in climbing up the ranks until your base is nearing end-game status. It makes so much more sense to farm weaker bases and build up as quickly as possible.

7/30/2014 10:06:01 PM

ncsuallday
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yeah it's a fine line where you'll do the best league-wise for farming. at TH8 I'd farm around 1200-1500 trophy level but it got boring. When I upped trophies past that, I felt like the pay-off wasn't as much compared to the invested troops. At TH9 in crystal 1 (2050 trophies right now) I feel like it's going pretty well - way more dark elixir too. I'll see if I can get up to crystal 2 or 1 but I doubt it until I get the heroes and dark troops upgraded a bunch.

7/31/2014 1:09:41 AM

NCSUALUM
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one gem 7 day boost on all collectors

7/31/2014 9:01:57 AM

JCE2011
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^

7/31/2014 3:20:07 PM

ncsuallday
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farming has been great today because of it. it'll only get better too

7/31/2014 3:47:23 PM

Hiro
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Didn't need to spend any gems to cash in on this "event"

8/2/2014 12:17:26 AM

TreeTwista10
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10 gemes for 7 days of boost is a good deal, since you'll clear enough trees and bushes in 2 days to get 10 gems

But I haven't done it. If I need elixir I just send a few giants, a few bombers and a hundred goblins into some fertile base

[Edited on August 2, 2014 at 12:23 AM. Reason : TEN GEMES]

8/2/2014 12:23:13 AM

Hiro
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Yup. heck. I've been able to raid some bases with just 40 goblins and I bank 100k each in Elixer and Gold.

Also, if you didn't know already, you can't be attacked while you are "online." It explains why I'll go 12-15 hours without being attacked until I sign off and goto bed.

[Edited on August 2, 2014 at 12:27 AM. Reason : ,]

8/2/2014 12:27:18 AM

TreeTwista10
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12-15 hours

if you leave the app alone for 5 minutes it logs you out

but yeah, cant be attacked while you're online. i assume you figured that out by trying to get revenge on someone?

8/2/2014 12:39:39 AM

Hiro
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haha yeah. dad was trying to revenge someone who stole his resources and he told me about this :p

I mean... I work 12 hours shifts... then there's school...

8/2/2014 12:51:07 AM

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Only a day left on the 7 day boost unfortunately. I can't wait until I can get level 6 balloons. They are pretty effective in clan wars.

8/6/2014 10:25:33 AM

moonman
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This won't work for people with maxed out mines and collectors, but for everyone else: Upgrade your gold mines/elixir collectors, cancel the upgrade, and boost again. Guys in my clan are saying it works and they're getting a fresh seven days. You'll more than make up for the resources you lose by canceling the upgrades.

8/6/2014 11:02:57 AM

ncsuallday
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^I was wondering about that.

I'm well into TH9 now and starting to GoWiPe, which has been insanely effective.

Here's a good explanation of it from my cousin's clan site:

http://www.reddit.com/r/RedditInfinity/comments/2bk5x9/clan_wars_go_to_strategy_for_th89_guaranteed_2/

Their clan assigns who you attack using your troop ranks and an algorithm to determine best possible match-ups

8/6/2014 1:52:46 PM

moonman
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I like that guide. I'm going to share it with my clan.

GoWiPe is very effective. GoWiWi is unstoppable. (I hate the damnable acronyms and feel silly saying them, but whatever.) I just switched from balloons/minions to the following strategy:

I recently maxed my army camps at TH10, so I have 240 troop capacity. I am running three level 4 golems, 23 level 5 wizards, three level 2 witches and 11 level 5 wallbreakers. (I think that adds up to 240.) My clan castle usually has wizards or a dragon. So the witches are maxed and everyone else is one off from max. I haven't lost a raid I've tried to win yet, and I'm sitting at 2800 trophies.

I deploy all three golems spread out on one side of the base and use a rage near the wall. Once the defenses zero in on the golems, I deploy the wall breakers near the rage to break through their walls. I can usually get through two layers, maybe a third.

Then I deploy all of my wizards in a line behind the golems and let them approach the base. I'll deploy my other two rage spells to draw my wizards toward the town hall as needed. Then I deploy my witches in a row behind the wizards.

I bring a jump spell if I need to get through another layer of walls to get to the town hall. If I think I need them, I deploy my heroes between my wizards and my witches. The king is a great tank unit after the last update, and his heal ability is a fantastic asset. I save my lightning spell for clan castle troops, of course.

This strategy is good for two stars on even the best built TH10 bases about half the time, and it simply does not lose. I can consistently get close to three stars on fairly strong TH9 bases. I can't wait til my golems and wizards are maxed so I can see the true potential of this army.

[Edited on August 6, 2014 at 2:19 PM. Reason : .]

8/6/2014 2:16:11 PM

ncsuallday
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"Then I deploy all of my wizards in a line behind the golems and let them approach the base. I'll deploy my other two rage spells to draw my wizards toward the town hall as needed."


Will they really direct towards the rage spell? I thought jump was the only one that would draw them?

I've gotta build up my dark elixir storage and upgrade my witches/golems. I only have 1* Pekkas and Golems and still do very well with GoWiPe. The TH10 people in my clan do GoWiWi, too, although I bet they'll nerf something in that combo in the next update.

8/6/2014 3:39:18 PM

moonman
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The spell itself doesn't technically "draw" them, but when they get all sped up, they seem to be speeding deeper into the spell more often than not, and I try to make that happen toward the town hall or whatever defense I want to take out.

... or maybe it's just my imagination.

And yeah, I'm always chasing the best army combo only to arrive at the max setup just in time for the big nerf. Happened with witches; then, it happened with hogs. I figure a big reduction on something in that comb is due in the next two weeks, just in time for me to finish upgrading.

[Edited on August 6, 2014 at 6:42 PM. Reason : ..]

8/6/2014 6:39:35 PM

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I'm in Crystal II right now but I feel like there isn't much good farming and I'm spending $texas in elixir to run GoWiPes all the time. When I try running low cost armies that are mainly archers/barbs with a few giants and breakers, I have a 50% chances of losing, at least. I feel like I can get up to Crystal I but I'm not gaining elixir at all. I like going for trophies but I may need to drop down to gold I or II just to get some resources to up my levels/defenses.

8/7/2014 1:26:20 PM

moonman
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I feel your pain! I am constantly on the razor's edge with elixir and am depending completely on the league bonus to train my army. If I mess up and lose a raid, it takes forever to train another army.

Have you tried balloons/minions? Running 24 max balloons with 50-60 minions is highly effective when you find a base with under-developed or exposed air defenses. I also find it's not as dependent on spells, which cuts down on the overall cost of that raid.

I've read guys' accounts of getting to Master III or higher with archers and barbarians, but I am just not good enough or patient enough to ride that tactic to that level.

8/7/2014 2:08:35 PM

TreeTwista10
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At what level TH do raids with a bunch of giants and healers (and some archers and wizards) become ineffective? That's been my main strategy at TH6 at the moment. Especially for bases with their air defenses near the outside of the base.

Of my 135 spots, 2 healers, about 12-14 giants, 6 wizards, about 5 wall breakers and some archers

[Edited on August 7, 2014 at 2:52 PM. Reason : .]

8/7/2014 2:51:41 PM

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I'm at TH7 (Haymaker), and of the 195 spots I have, I use about 6 wall breakers (lvl 4), 12-15 giants (lvl 4), then about 60 archers (lvl 4) and maybe a healer or two or 4-6 lvl 3 wizards.

That + 2 Rage (lvl 1) and 1 Health Spell (lvl 3) ....I'm pretty much always dominating my raids right now.

I imagine when we both go up a few levels, there's more of a need for other guys...but for now, that can get me 1-2 stars with ease on a TH8 base and 200k-300k elixer, depending on what the base has to offer, obviously.

8/7/2014 4:18:10 PM

ncsuallday
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"Have you tried balloons/minions?"


I actually have not developed either at all. I have 6* archers, giants, barbs. 5* wizards, breakers, goblins. but I only have 3* balloons and 1* minions that does sound like a good idea, though. I've been meaning to get around to leveling them. Right now I've got Pekka upgrading to 2*.

^^That will work until you get to TH8 or so with more developed air defense (shoot down your healers and the balloon bomb traps). I think it has more to do with what league you're playing in than what TH level, though. That's pretty much what I was running at the time.

8/7/2014 4:42:26 PM

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I just peaced from The Big House ... oversaturated with wars, stopped giving a shit whether we won or not lol

we created a new lazy clan "Lack of Interes" (sic) if anyone wants to be in one just for CC donation purposes, maybe a war every couple weeks

8/7/2014 8:15:22 PM

TreeTwista10
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dweedle you should join the little house. you'd be a god. we war all the time but the competition is much easier i'd imagine

plus you can donate us good stuff

8/7/2014 10:07:35 PM

dweedle
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i probably will when I feel like playing it more, told them I would at least

8/7/2014 10:38:51 PM

ncsuallday
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if anyone wants in a serious and active clan, hit me up. we have 39/50 and constantly turn down prospective people but we've won 30+ wars and do starts wars every other day. clan is "Mayday" it has a green/yellow checkered shield.

8/7/2014 11:38:06 PM

Fry
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The Big House is changing to a couple days between wars due to the exodus. Debating staying, I am a co-leader

8/8/2014 9:58:27 AM

ncsuallday
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I just wish my clan would take the weekend off or something. I can't be bothered with that shit on weekends.

8/8/2014 10:41:45 AM

ajohnson1
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our participation is shit on weekends, so we stopped weekend wars. we start wars on sunday and tuesday nights. actual battle days are tues and thurs. participation is great with 2 per week.

8/8/2014 12:30:15 PM

moonman
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Weekend wars work well for us. We do one a week -- prep day on Friday and battle day on Saturday and into Sunday morning. More than one a week is too expensive, as our top players carry the war donations.

8/8/2014 2:22:05 PM

Panthro
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I like the wars.

Fuck it.

8/8/2014 3:19:57 PM

TreeTwista10
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See dweedle, this is why you should join the little house, for great low level stuff

8/16/2014 12:27:12 AM

Fry
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fantastic commentary sir.

8/16/2014 1:27:44 PM

Fry
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bertis are you attacking? 72-78, we need attacks

8/17/2014 3:15:39 PM

wolfpack2105
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Downloaded clash of clans a few days ago. Just got to the part where I can join clans

8/17/2014 7:16:50 PM

NCSUALUM
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yea i did my two attacks. Turned out pretty shitty

8/17/2014 7:45:52 PM

Hiro
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bout to get back into the Little HOuse clan. I've returned from my trip!

8/17/2014 9:44:39 PM

dweedle
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uninstalled ... tired of it

8/21/2014 7:26:01 PM

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