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Smath74
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/10/graham-islamic-state-will-attack-on-us-soil-obama-must-stop-terror-groups-rise/

Graham: Islamic State will attack on US soil, Obama must stop terror group’s rise

8/10/2014 1:13:25 PM

dtownral
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fear mongering

8/10/2014 1:19:18 PM

moron
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Wow, ISIS hates america? Someone alert the presses!!!

8/10/2014 2:18:38 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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I feel like this didn't need its own thread.

8/10/2014 2:20:47 PM

y0willy0
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this certainly needs its own thead, but lets go ahead and cut to the chase so we dont reach 24 pages (like israel/palestine)

per the logic in that thread if we're attacked we certainly shouldnt respond

we are too overpowered plus we deserve it

am i a part of the liberal cool club now? i want nothing more than to heckle smath and rjrumfel

i cant wait to ally with dtownral, JesusH, and others

8/10/2014 3:30:20 PM

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We will do what we do best in that region, we'll arm the brown people we like so they can fight the brown people we don't...

8/10/2014 4:39:02 PM

dtownral
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ISIS attacked the US?

8/10/2014 8:55:49 PM

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ISIS isn't a bunch of Christians, so nobody else on this board should really care what they think or do. We only get our panties in wads around here when it comes to Christians voicing their opinions, or as most folks on here tell it, forcing their opinions on others.

8/10/2014 9:00:46 PM

dtownral
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um... Muslims?

8/10/2014 9:06:31 PM

rjrumfel
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Yes, they're Muslims the last I heard.

8/10/2014 9:10:35 PM

dtownral
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we never care about Muslims in this country? wat?

8/10/2014 9:12:57 PM

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White American Christians are the new minorities. Just have no rights in this country. Or something.

Anyway, as pointed out, this is flat out fear mongering. But ISIS does need to be put down...

8/10/2014 9:32:05 PM

dtownral
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how can we put down ISIS?

8/10/2014 9:36:42 PM

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ISIS, I think, largely doesn't give a shit about America so much as they're concerned with their regional Islamic caliphate. I mean, sure, I'm sure they hate America, but that's a peripheral issue.

Of course, this was a primary driving factor for bin Laden, and I believe that aside from desiring to kill Americans just for the sake of doing it, and aside from a personal vendetta because we were making his life hell after the Cole, embassy attacks, first WTC bombing, etc, I think that 9/11 had a lot to do with him desiring to prod the U.S. into overreacting militarily, uniting and reinvigorating much of the Islamic world.

(then, of course, we picked fucking Iraq, too, rattling that hornet's nest, removing the counterweight to our more important Iran problem, and creating a power vacuum and militant Islamist problem where there wasn't one, and diverting resources and political capital so that we had a weaker hand when Syria went down.)

ISIS isn't bolstered by the West in maybe quite the same direct way as the Taliban were born of our Mujahideen (although we're working on that with our arming rebels in Syria, I'm afraid--although Assad isn't exactly a compelling option, either), but ISIS is very much a product of the environment that we have created over the last decade.

8/11/2014 1:34:23 AM

rjrumfel
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Do you feel like Iran is being overlooked now because of all of the other crap that is going on?

8/11/2014 7:03:03 AM

dtownral
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Wow

8/11/2014 8:30:03 AM

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"We only get our panties in wads around here when it comes to Christians voicing their opinions"


Persecution complexes never cease to amaze me.

8/11/2014 8:52:25 AM

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If Isis detonates a pipe bomb that damages the shoulder of a road in Jones County, I say we level their entire country and kill a few hundred of the women and children that live in their country with some precision-guided missiles. Then we'll never have to worry about them again.

[Edited on August 11, 2014 at 9:17 AM. Reason : ]

8/11/2014 9:16:39 AM

y0willy0
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our ww2 military was better equipped to deal with these peons

they need to be regularly strafed by mustangs

8/11/2014 10:44:17 AM

DeltaBeta
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I think a bi-daily strafing by some A10's will do nicely in their place.

8/11/2014 11:33:00 AM

dtownral
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the "mowing the grass" strategy

8/11/2014 12:11:21 PM

JesusHChrist
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Oh, shit!


Did I just get an unprovoked shout-out and rolley eyes for no reason whatsoever?


Look, ma! I made it!

8/11/2014 12:15:17 PM

Bullet
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"ISIS isn't a bunch of Christians, so nobody else on this board should really care what they think or do. We only get our panties in wads around here when it comes to Christians voicing their opinions, or as most folks on here tell it, forcing their opinions on others."


Seriously man, this is a ridiculous statement and makes you, as a christian, look silly. I'm sure you realize the reason christians get flack in america is because they are the dominant andvocal religion in america. But most people who think christianity is silly think islam is just as silly. And of course people will care if they're killing people.

8/11/2014 12:22:36 PM

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"Do you feel like Iran is being overlooked now because of all of the other crap that is going on?"


Well, ISIS is actually a nightmare scenario for them as well. Last thing they want is a bloodthirsty, Sunni extremists massacring Shia and toppling the semi-friendly Iraqi government. Part of me wants to let ISIS go nuts and watch the Iranians get dragged into the quagmire, but I guess its too late for that now.

8/11/2014 12:27:00 PM

dtownral
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its more important than ever that we become friends with Iran

8/11/2014 12:30:52 PM

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8/11/2014 12:59:19 PM

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I thought this thread was about sex with goats.

8/11/2014 1:04:19 PM

The E Man
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We are allied with iran and syria (and therefore russia) to stop a group that is a proxy of our "allies" saudi arabia and turkey

8/11/2014 1:38:40 PM

The E Man
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Their leaders obviously didnt read up on ww2. Nazis could have won if they weren't so focused on quickly killing jews. Without the possible genocide they could still be running train on southern iraq and not have intervention. This is their peak.

8/13/2014 12:07:49 PM

Shrike
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I seriously doubt anyone at the FBI is losing sleep over ISIS. They are a regional problem, and are probably seen more as potential leverage by the Obama administration than anything else. All the regional powers want them gone but the none of them will do it themselves. Using them to force a secular Iraqi government, or concessions from Syria and Iran, before providing real front-line military aid seems like the way to go.

8/13/2014 12:27:17 PM

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"Nazis could have won if they weren't so focused on quickly killing jews."


wat

8/13/2014 1:03:55 PM

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^^ It is very dangerous to underestimate them. They swept through major iraqi cities in a matter of days, and defeated both Kurdish an Iraqi forces. They now have possession of American weapons, and probably are well funded. And they seem to be more brutal than most.

I'm not worried about an attack on America's mainland, but this is in the realm of possibility down the road if they aren't stamped out now, as decisively as possible.

8/13/2014 1:23:35 PM

Smath74
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Caliphate

8/13/2014 1:31:57 PM

y0willy0
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bizzaro world

moron wants to 'stamp out' a group of brown people

8/13/2014 2:12:07 PM

moron
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Like naive white privilege, and the leadership ethos of the Ferguson police force, ISIS needs to be stamped out.

8/13/2014 2:51:33 PM

dtownral
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but but but liberals are supposed to be tolerant!

8/13/2014 5:23:24 PM

PaulISdead
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Instead of eye sis can we start calling them is is

8/13/2014 7:08:24 PM

Shrike
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IS IS Baby

8/13/2014 7:37:52 PM

0EPII1
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^^ how about call them by their real name now?

they changed their name to "Islamic State" from "Islamic State in Syria/Levant" about a month ago.

[Edited on August 13, 2014 at 8:12 PM. Reason : ]

8/13/2014 8:12:17 PM

HockeyRoman
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Because the word "State" implies some semblance of legitimacy/sovereignty.

8/13/2014 8:28:46 PM

0EPII1
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the word State was in their previous name also.

call them what you want, doesn't affect me, but the convention is to call people/groups by their actual names, regardless who/what they are and how ridiculous the name might be.


[Edited on August 13, 2014 at 8:42 PM. Reason : ]

8/13/2014 8:41:09 PM

Smath74
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why am i not surprised that 0EPII1 is getting his panties in a wad about people not calling this terrorist group by their "official" name.

8/13/2014 8:49:00 PM

0EPII1
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why am i not surprised that smath is still fond of making stuff up?

8/13/2014 9:00:11 PM

moron
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U.S., Iran Rush to Aid Kurdish Peshmerga
http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/u-s-iran-rush-to-aid-kurdish-peshmerga-forces-1407976463?mobile=y

Reading this story: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/14/world/middleeast/iraq-yazidi-refugees.html?referrer

Makes me things some really badass operations went down behind the scenes we don't know about. I feel really good though Germany France and uk are stepping up to help, along with Iran. Hopefully this all has a positive outcome in the end.

[Edited on August 13, 2014 at 10:02 PM. Reason : ]

8/13/2014 9:35:16 PM

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Quote :
"Instead of eye sis can we start calling them is is"


That depends on what your definition of is is is.

8/14/2014 1:46:35 AM

0EPII1
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You guys know here? "Evangelist Anita Fuentes"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDANjSQWP7M

So bad that I couldn't stop watching... but on topic, someone apparently took a pic with the WH in the background and a phone showing the IS flag in the foreground. (she shows a printout of the pic)

So, they are already in the US?

8/14/2014 8:20:46 AM

Smath74
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Glen Beck says they are.

8/14/2014 11:56:30 AM

0EPII1
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Funny

http://www.kusi.com/story/26286832/new-jersey-man-flies-muslim-flag-adopted-by-isis

8/15/2014 2:30:37 AM

The E Man
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That makes me hate america

8/15/2014 9:26:56 AM

Smath74
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http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/08/isil-beheads-photojournalist-james-wright-foley/378802/

8/19/2014 6:25:19 PM

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