ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
| #3 Virginia (21-1, 9-1) | | | vs | | | NC State (14-10, 5-6) | |
| Wednesday, February 11th, 8:00pm TV: ACC Network (WRAL) |
Virginia schedule to date: @ James Madison W 79-51 Norfolk St W 67-39 South Carolina St W 75-55 George Washington W 59-42 Tennessee St W 79-36 vs La Salle W 64-56 vs Rutgers W 45-26 @ #21 Maryland W 76-65 @ Virginia Commonwealth W 74-57 Cleveland St W 70-54 Harvard W 76-27 Davidson W 83-72 @ Miami (FL) W 89-80 2OT NC State W 61-51 @ #13 Notre Dame W 62-56 Clemson W 65-42 @ Boston College W 66-51 Georgia Tech W 57-28 @ Virginia Tech W 50-47 #4 Duke L 69-63 @ #12 North Carolina W 75-64 #9 Louisville W 52-47
GO STATE!2/8/2015 11:13:53 PM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
plz2win 2/8/2015 11:20:47 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
we gott this 2/8/2015 11:34:04 PM |
Kickstand All American 11566 Posts user info edit post |
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, NC State lost to UVA who went on to win the national championship that year. 2/9/2015 12:01:27 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
I've got a crazy feeling we'll win this game
defensive struggle. something like 52-51 2OT 2/9/2015 12:11:21 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 52982 Posts user info edit post |
[dancing L] 2/9/2015 12:37:37 AM |
willembahh All American 2378 Posts user info edit post |
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, UVA lost to NC State who went on to win the national championship that year. 2/9/2015 1:17:04 AM |
skaterjaws All American 1492 Posts user info edit post |
I have faith..... 2/9/2015 2:11:14 AM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Gott was on my flight to DC yesterday. I said to him "good luck against UVA, I think we can win!" and he looked sullenly at the floor and said "thanks". True story. 2/9/2015 9:11:35 AM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
justin anderson out 4 to 6 weeks w/ broken finger...so at least we got that going for us 2/9/2015 9:47:47 AM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
big fat dancing L 2/9/2015 2:10:15 PM |
Bullet All American 28342 Posts user info edit post |
I really hate when people say "I'd rather beat them at full strength". Of course that would be better, but I'll take beating them when they're missing one of their better players any day. 2/9/2015 2:16:31 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
He's their best 3-point shooter. Since that's what has been killing us during this stretch, it definitely raises the level of hope. 2/9/2015 4:27:46 PM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
gonna need ralston to show up big to win this game. he's been really stinking it up from the field lately 2/9/2015 4:42:07 PM |
Bullet All American 28342 Posts user info edit post |
I read on PP that he's supposedly been banged up and battling a knee injury for a few weeks. Hopefully he's healed up some over the long break. 2/9/2015 4:58:21 PM |
skaterjaws All American 1492 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.unf.edu/~jcoleman/dance.htm 2/9/2015 5:38:18 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Would be nice to get Lacey going in this one. He struggled the first time around. Overall I actually feel pretty good about this game. 2/9/2015 10:39:55 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Brogdin is their most important player, but Anderson can burn you from deep or driving the lane. Glad he's out. They're still the #3 team in the nation, and we really need some wins.
Wonder if we'll stick with the small lineup this game. We played small almost the whole 2nd half against Wake and scored 54 points.
Pack Pride had a premium story posted about the small lineup but I couldn't read it. I'm all for it. Makes us more versatile and harder to guard. 2/10/2015 8:48:13 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5850 Posts user info edit post |
^
Quote : | "Should the Wolfpack play small ball even more? Part of me believes that's the route they should look to take. First of all, we know college basketball is a guard's game. It's about having playmakers and shooters because with the way it's being officiated it's tougher and tougher for non-elite frontcourt scorers to consistently produce on a given night.
Watching the Wake Forest game back, I wonder if that's part of NC State's problems offensively. The Wolfpack came out and a majority of their early plays were sets run out of the UCLA High Post offense. There was a concerted effort to try and get Kyle Washington and Abdul-Malik Abu going early on. When it works (see the start of Miami) that's great but what happened Tuesday night is what it looks like when it doesn't work.
State's big men aren't getting dunks/layups out of these sets... they are getting high post/mid-range looks or block touches. Those aren't easy versus packed-in/converging defenses. Abu, Washington, and BeeJay Anya were 2-for-11 in the first half at Wake Forest. Lennard Freeman was 2-for-2 and one of those was an offensive putback. Abu had five shot attempts in seven minutes and just one of those shots came off an offensive rebound.
The Wolfpack scored 30 points and shot 31% from the field. Granted, Ralston Turner and Trevor Lacey weren't much better (1-for-9), but shouldn't the big men be more efficient then guards, given the shots they should be taking?
In the second half, NC State's four big men combined to go 3-for-4 from the field. Overall, the offense scored 54 points and shot 50% from the field. The three starting guards combined to go 13-for-27 and scored 38 points.
What was the difference? State played faster and were able to play faster because they downsized and went small. Anya, Washington, Abu, and Freeman COMBINED for 22 minutes in the second half. In the first half they played 40 combined minutes (i.e. State played two bigs the entire half). The lone big was used more as a screener for shooters... which is what most teams do with their big men.
My belief is Gottfried often uses the first half to find out if his big men are going to be effective as scorers and then looks to adjust accordingly, but is doing so wasting chances to get his better scorers involved earlier?
We asked Gottfried after the game if he'd consider starting a small lineup.
"Yeah, maybe, but it is tough defensively too," he said. "It depends on who you’re playing against and how you’re going to guard somebody. We’ve traditionally played with two big guys and with the way Wake plays Mitoglou and even Leonard sometimes, it puts us at a little bit of a disadvantage because we have got a forward chasing those guys around the three-point line.
"Now the answer is if you go down on offense and punish them, then it is good. But if you are bad offensively and you are at a disadvantage defensively, it is time to make a change. That is what we did at half. I said, 'I am not playing that anymore. I have seen enough of that.'
"We will see. We will look at it."
I definitely think they should, not only look at playing smaller earlier, but also de-emphasizing the big men offensively. You don't have to take them completely out of the equation, but use them more as screener/rollers/rebounders offensively than post-up/elbow scorers. Maybe it's just me, but no shot angers me more than a mid-range jumper from a big without another under the basket.
Why not come out early and try to establish your best scorers (Lacey, Turner, and Barber) and let the big men get in the flow of the game and pick their spots?
It's probably hard to make such a radical change based off what may seem like one game, but I believe if they are going to get it rolling they have to try and play faster offensively and use Barber/Lacey as penetrators to open up their bigs around the rim for easier shots and Turner/Martin's for easier shots.
I get it, you may be in a bind defensively, but really does it matter at this point? NC State's not a great team defensively now.
Look at Notre Dame. They aren't good defensively and play small because they know it makes them that much harder to guard offensively. Doing so has allowed them to become an elite offensive team. I believe they played two big men last season and were No. 55 in offensive efficiency. They now play Connaughton at the four and are No. 1 in offensive efficiency.
He's 6'5 and a matchup problem for traditional forwards... which I think could be the case for Cody and Caleb.
I'm sure it's something that NC State will explore this week in practice... Gottfried said as much after the Wake loss.
Either way, they need to find something that works, and fast... tourney hopes are fading." |
2/10/2015 9:38:46 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
go small early. Keep the bigs out of foul trouble and maybe they can grab some crucial rebounds late. 2/10/2015 9:40:22 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Good coaches are able to see what their teams strengths and weaknesses are and adapt accordingly. We have seen time and again we are not a great defensive team so it would make sense to concentrate on scoring the ball and if we lose in a shootout then so be it. We cant continue to wait until we are down 20 at halftime to make these adjustments. Both Clemson and Wake we made the comeback but we were put in such a big hole it just took too much energy to makeup the difference and we couldnt finish it down the stretch. If you wanna see how things go give it 10 minutes tops and if its not working make the change then before the game is too far out of reach. 2/10/2015 11:08:27 AM |
lion4russell All American 1588 Posts user info edit post |
We have the talent and depth to press all game. I wish we did that against the wake forests and clemsons. Come out against a team we are better than and attempt to beat them by 30. 2/10/2015 12:36:31 PM |
KInge21 All American 574 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on February 10, 2015 at 1:48 PM. Reason : .]
2/10/2015 1:48:36 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25463 Posts user info edit post |
^jesus christ hahahahaha 2/10/2015 5:34:33 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
^ http://deadspin.com/virginia-fan-turns-into-furious-dancing-machine-someho-1684934875 2/10/2015 5:43:45 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5850 Posts user info edit post |
Shit just got real with the gif. 2/10/2015 5:53:39 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
thought we'd get the W here before the anderson injury
after it idk i can just feel some random turd like evan nolte hitting five 3s on us 2/10/2015 6:47:32 PM |
natureboy All American 2799 Posts user info edit post |
Not feeling good about this game. I like our chances better against Louisville. 2/11/2015 6:00:05 AM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
clearly you all have forgotten how NC State athletics work
we're going to beat the shit out of UVA tonight, and spend the rest of the week congratulating ourselves for being in great shape to make the tournament with 2 Top 5 wins
then we'll lose out the rest of the regular season and take ourselves right back to NIT land 2/11/2015 8:12:23 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5850 Posts user info edit post |
we GOTT this. 2/11/2015 8:51:58 AM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
What's the line? 2/11/2015 8:55:20 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
We lose a game in the 50s is my guess 2/11/2015 9:05:45 AM |
yrey All American 1150 Posts user info edit post |
Yep, this is a prime game in which State pulls out a major upset. The scary part is what follows after the upset... 2/11/2015 9:22:30 AM |
DonMega Save TWW 4197 Posts user info edit post |
rocking the car flags, looking forward to the game tonight!
plz2win 2/11/2015 9:30:29 AM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Would love to see the black jerseys make an appearance tonight. 2/11/2015 11:05:05 AM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
I love the black jerseys. But we definitely don't need their curse tonight. 2/11/2015 11:15:59 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Throw the black jerseys on the burn pile plz 2/11/2015 11:21:47 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148354 Posts user info edit post |
Bust out the unitards for Wayback Wednesday 2/11/2015 11:22:39 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
-8.5 UVA 2/11/2015 11:22:56 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
This game will be slow torture. Ugh. 2/11/2015 12:14:00 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
forgot we even used black jerseys, but whoever said this could be the game to wear them... i have to say i agree 2/11/2015 12:23:59 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
What's our record with the black jerseys?
[Edited on February 11, 2015 at 12:40 PM. Reason : V I know the answer must be yes, but it feels like a no.]
[Edited on February 11, 2015 at 12:44 PM. Reason : VV better than black jerseys i'd bet] 2/11/2015 12:29:51 PM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Have we EVER won a game with the black jerseys? 2/11/2015 12:34:58 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know, what's our record against top 5 teams? 2/11/2015 12:41:17 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Didn't we beat Clemson with black jerseys last year? 2/11/2015 1:05:22 PM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't know, what's our record against top 5 teams?" |
This year -- 1-1, so it's a draw!
^Looks like we lost our only game against Clemson last year.
L wearing them at UNC in 2012-2013 season. I'm sure we wore them last year, but I can't easily find it.
L against Miami last year.
L at Duke in 2012
[Edited on February 11, 2015 at 1:35 PM. Reason : ]2/11/2015 1:26:06 PM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
We won at home against Clemson in the 2012-2013 season wearing black. Night before MLK Day IIRC.
I liked the black jerseys we wore in Gott's first season the most (other than the fact that when we wore them at Cameron we blew that huge lead). 2/11/2015 3:58:45 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27791 Posts user info edit post |
i like the black jerseys we wore back in 1924. 2/11/2015 4:40:02 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25069 Posts user info edit post |
not happy i have to stream this because it's not on locally in atlanta 2/11/2015 4:53:08 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
That girl was robbed 2/11/2015 4:57:04 PM |