http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?gage=rlhn7&wfo=rah&refresh=true

the suspense is real

[Edited on October 2, 2015 at 6:16 AM. Reason : t]

10/2/2015 6:15:40 AM

That's cool. I was going to walk over at some point today and see what it looked like at Ebenezer, but now I can just sit here instead and save myself 10 minutes.

10/2/2015 8:54:11 AM

they need a webcam

10/2/2015 9:00:42 AM

only to stage 7? weak. though that's impressive for nearly 8 days in a row with rain.

10/2/2015 9:30:51 AM

What normally "bad"?

10/2/2015 1:39:38 PM

flood stage there is 18, moderate flood stage is 20

probably need at least 20 before any issues at the mall

10/2/2015 1:42:28 PM

thanks for summarizing the webpage linked in the OP.




[Edited on October 2, 2015 at 1:44 PM. Reason : warfgarbl. wonder if the image will update in hotlink...]

10/2/2015 1:42:54 PM

[Edited on October 2, 2015 at 2:09 PM. Reason : .]

10/2/2015 2:09:17 PM

yep, it updates.

10/2/2015 3:02:48 PM

Weak

5/5/2016 1:17:21 PM

GIVE US TEH FLOOD

5/5/2016 1:24:47 PM

So flood stage (18ft) seems a bit more than normal mall flooding is seen. So whats a normal value that the whole area is under water?

5/5/2016 1:28:12 PM

Quote :

"Flood Stage - An established gage height for a given location above which a rise in water surface level begins to create a hazard to lives, property, or commerce. The issuance of flood (or in some cases flash flood) warnings is linked to flood stage. Not necessarily the same as bankfull stage."

5/5/2016 1:29:25 PM

OK so maybe they have bad data as I know the mall has flooded multiple times but theyve only once in the last 10 years listed as above flood stage. Hense my confusion.

5/5/2016 1:59:49 PM

Your malls are fine.

5/5/2016 2:04:36 PM

Quote :

"24 ft. GLENWOOD AVENUE BECOMES IMPASSABLE 23 ft. THE HIGHWAY 70 BRIDGE FLOODS. TRAVEL ON GLENWOOD AVENUE AND THE AREA AROUND CRABTREE VALLEY MALL IS SEVERELY HAMPERED. 22 ft. GLENWOOD AVENUE AND THE LOWER LEVEL MALL PARKING LOT AT CRABTREE VALLEY MALL FLOODS. 20 ft. MOST PARKING LOTS AT CRABTREE VALLEY MALL FLOOD, INCLUDING THE SHELL GAS STATION. 18 ft. WATER ENTERS THE LOWER ENTRANCE TO MACYS DEPARTMENT STORE. 14 ft. WATER COVERS THE LOWER PARKING LOT AT CRABTREE VALLEY MALL."

5/5/2016 2:38:43 PM

my jerb's parking lot floods when this happens. shit's stupid.

5/5/2016 2:41:52 PM

Quote :

"TRAVEL ON GLENWOOD AVENUE AND THE AREA AROUND CRABTREE VALLEY MALL IS SEVERELY HAMPERED."

Isn't that more-or-less the case 24/7?

5/5/2016 3:58:44 PM

7/17/2016 3:29:15 AM

[Edited on July 17, 2016 at 6:37 AM. Reason : r]

7/17/2016 6:35:12 AM

Haven't seen this for yrs.

7/17/2016 6:38:13 AM

Its been a few years but not that long.

7/17/2016 11:30:25 AM

1996, 2006, 2016

seems to be about every 10 years...

7/17/2016 11:48:48 AM

why would you park down there when its raining

7/17/2016 11:58:27 AM

in 96 and 06 it was tropical storms so yeah you would have to a dumbass but this time it was just freak 6 inches of rain out of nowhere

7/17/2016 12:02:25 PM

http://fris.nc.gov/fris_hardfiles/nc/hardfiles/DFIRM/183/DFIRM_NC_3720079600J.pdf

7/17/2016 12:55:42 PM

is the mall itself flooded too?

7/17/2016 1:57:40 PM

I wouldn't say it was "out of nowhere". There was talk about a storm dumping a serious amount of rain on Saturday within the last few days.

7/17/2016 2:36:03 PM

The entirety of the local water resource/engineering community licks it lips at the prospect of the City of Raleigh giving enough of a damn to mitigate the Crabtree nightmare........ Gotta pay for Dorothea Dix first tho

7/17/2016 5:56:38 PM

Just got the email about my jerb's parking lot. Shits flooded as fuck. Pics to come....

7/17/2016 9:12:16 PM

It reached moderate flood levels the other night. The record is another 7 feet higher than that (occurred in 1973).

7/18/2016 9:55:45 AM

I got some good footage on facebook live. Not sure how to post it. It defintely smelled like fuel under there and all the car alarms were going off as the water was frying the electronics in all the cars.

7/18/2016 10:32:07 AM

crabtree VALLEY mall. i mean the built it in a flood plain because it was flat land and cheap. and i'm assuming they got a good deal with the flood insurance company.

7/18/2016 12:06:35 PM

took 2 pics: https://imgur.com/a/yIFom

and that was AFTER they scraped most of the mud off starting at 5 AM.

7/18/2016 2:27:05 PM

It also flooded in 2003 or 2004. Wasn't a tropical storm or anything. Just some ridiculous rain.

My car was one of the casualties. I parked in the deck around 4pm to go to work one day (worked at the mall) and came back to my car around midnight and there was mud up to my car seat inside and out....that wasn't fun to deal with.

[Edited on July 18, 2016 at 3:18 PM. Reason : .]

7/18/2016 3:15:20 PM

Quote :

"crabtree VALLEY mall. i mean the built it in a flood plain because it was flat land and cheap. and i'm assuming they got a good deal with the flood insurance company."

they also say that there was little development in the area then, since there has been so much more impervious surface in the area there is more runoff..more runoff = worse flooding

7/18/2016 5:36:31 PM

Yea you wouldn't be able to build Crabtree Valley in its current location and elevation today. Wiki is telling me it was built in 1972 (seriously?). I don't think the National Flood Insurance Program got the teeth it needed to disincentivize floodplain construction until a few years later, therefore it is probably grandfathered into the program, meaning subsidized flood insurance rates. As I posted above the city/mall could mitigate the problem significantly but it would be expensive as fuck (flood studies + an ass ton of grading and soil disposal + moving that road behind the mall and probably improving the bridges over the creek).

[Edited on July 18, 2016 at 6:38 PM. Reason : ^higher runoff and ditching the creek also likely playing a role]

7/18/2016 6:37:30 PM

Saw one of those pictures above on the national news yesterday

7/18/2016 7:49:59 PM

I heard the water rose 14 feet in 20 minutes

7/18/2016 11:24:07 PM

So lets see if this happens again tonight. Good risk of it and with waterlevels still high...

7/19/2016 10:59:03 AM

It's gone rain?

7/19/2016 2:13:01 PM

ha, peoples breaking out FIRMs

7/19/2016 6:17:02 PM

ALLMALLSMATTER

7/19/2016 6:34:46 PM

Yes Crabtree rises extremely quickly when heavy rains hit. It also falls quickly after it crests.

7/20/2016 8:20:12 AM

9/1/2016 2:01:36 PM

Someone is gonna get dumped on when all is said and done just a matter of where the band that is gonna form sets up.

9/1/2016 2:02:34 PM

I thought it was the shooting thread.

9/1/2016 2:09:46 PM

Craptree? it's the best mall in Raleigh by far. Probably one of the best in the state.

9/1/2016 2:13:25 PM

Cary Town Center and South Point mall are also excellent. Not to say South Park and Concord Mills in Charlotte.

9/1/2016 2:19:39 PM

Its begun:

Quote :

" wralweather: RT @alamb: .@WRAL Sign @CrabtreeValley1 warns shoppers about potential #hurricanehermine flooding. #WRAL https://t.co/k2ldHhl1Rw"

9/2/2016 11:08:59 AM