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adultswim
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Yes agreed. You should read the article before you blindly defend this conservative.

[Edited on December 20, 2018 at 1:29 PM. Reason : .]

12/20/2018 1:25:16 PM

nacstate
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Warren officially running.

12/31/2018 9:03:20 AM

shoot
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Just a younger Hillary, also weaker.

12/31/2018 2:04:06 PM

Shrike
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I think she missed her shot in 2016, could have been the one to unify both the Bernie and Hillary wings of the party. She's still got the best platform, but there are better messengers this time around.

12/31/2018 3:43:57 PM

bdmazur
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Of the 150+ people who have either filed or are publicly exploring a run in 2020, here are the ones I would personally consider, sorted by age:

Andrew Yang, 43
Eric Garcetti, 47
Cory Booker, 49
Elizabeth Warren, 69
Michael Bloomberg, 76

Despite the poor handling of her heritage Warren would still have my vote if I had to decide today. And I'd like to see someone younger like Booker or maybe Julian Castro (44) as a VP candidate.

12/31/2018 4:16:25 PM

thegoodlife3
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feel like every other writer who I really like who lives in LA hates Garcetti

12/31/2018 5:15:49 PM

moron
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I'm surprised Bloomberg is in your list, he's a worst-case-scenario for me

I did really like Warren's kick-off video though, I don't recall any candidate ever putting the wealth disparity with black families so front and center, and it's long past time for that to be brought up. Also probably doesn't hurt that blacks vote for democrats at 90+% rates, and black women absolutely despise Trump.

I don't really have an ideal candidate at this point, and I def think the drama between Beto and Sanders ppl is completely ridiculous. Anyone that's not Trump that's getting air time to spread a non-Trumpian message should be praised at this point (except Hillary).

1/1/2019 1:41:14 AM

dtownral
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Bloomberg is awful

1/1/2019 12:15:26 PM

adultswim
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" I def think the drama between Beto and Sanders ppl is completely ridiculous. Anyone that's not Trump that's getting air time to spread a non-Trumpian message should be praised at this point "


The primary is a year away. There's zero reason to give any praise to a conservative Dem candidate.

1/2/2019 10:54:26 AM

NyM410
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lol why is Bloomberg on any list? What even would be his constituency? If you want a centrist why would you choose a boring old guy and not an exciting young guy like Beto?

1/2/2019 11:07:16 AM

dtownral
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bloomberg is really rich

1/2/2019 11:50:29 AM

Pupils DiL8t
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I must follow way more Beto O'Rourke supporters than Bernie Sanders supporters on Twitter; my feed is always filled with O'Rourke supporters attacking Sanders for allowing his supporters to attack O'Rourke, but I can't say that I've seen any Sanders supporters attacking O'Rourke on my feed.

1/2/2019 3:18:13 PM

adultswim
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I've definitely seen it on mine, but it's just criticism of his voting record and lack of progressive vision. This is how a primary works.

1/2/2019 3:21:52 PM

dtownral
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sanders supporters: posts beto's voting record, posts where he broke his pledge on accepting oil industry money
centrist dems: OMG YOU BERNIE BRO'S ARE ALWAYS ATTACKING DEMOCRATS, WHY DON'T YOU STOP ATTACKING DEMOCRATS, YOU ARE WHY TRUMP WON REEEEEE

1/2/2019 3:43:21 PM

NyM410
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Voting records are literally the only way to see how a politician ACTUALLY BEHAVES. “Attacking” him for that is totally justifiable.

The oil industry donations from individuals is pretty worthless given the composition of his total donations.

1/2/2019 3:59:37 PM

dtownral
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Except that he signed a pledge and violated it

1/3/2019 5:23:57 AM

nacstate
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Tulsi Gabbard running now, didn't see that one coming.

1/11/2019 7:38:54 PM

GrumpyGOP
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"The primary is a year away. There's zero reason to give any praise to a conservative Dem candidate."


On a national scale, there's one big reason to treat all of the serious Democratic candidates civilly and praise them where possible: they might become the nominee. And we don't need another election where the party goes into the general divided, with a significant minority staying at home to pout.

1/13/2019 8:57:49 PM

rwoody
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We didn't have that in 2016 so not sure why we would have that in 2020.

1/13/2019 9:07:12 PM

adultswim
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More Bernie people voted for Clinton than Clinton people voted for Obama.

1/13/2019 9:47:16 PM

GrumpyGOP
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Defensive much? Kinda smells like guilt.

But I'm not hating on Bernie or his supporters. Trump ultimately won based on few thousand votes in a handful of states. That's a thin margin. Anything that needlessly causes some would-be Democratic voters to stay home is bad. That's all I'm saying. The other side is unified and there is no need to actively encourage divisions amongst ourselves. We're obviously going to be stuck with a lot of candidates this cycle, which isn't ideal, but let's not exacerbate the problem.

To refer back to what I originally posted: The primary is still a year away. We don't have to start slitting each others throats just yet.

1/13/2019 11:44:18 PM

rwoody
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Yea defensive bc you perpetuate a myth of the last election. We should find warts of bad candidates now and publicize them to ensure those candidates don't win the nomination. It doesn't need to be ultra negative but, as a progressive, I'd likt to highlight where a candidate meets my values vs where they are basically DINO.

Whatever candidate wins the nom is gonna get torn apart by fox News anyway. Better to develop defenses now.

1/14/2019 7:21:23 AM

dtownral
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sanders ran a civil campaign against clinton and campaigned for her after the primary, gtfo here with that "this time we need to be civil" nonsense

1/14/2019 7:36:58 AM

adultswim
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Seems likely that AOC could play king (or queen) maker. I hope she doesn't stay out of the primary.

1/14/2019 10:51:00 AM

Bullet
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she's 29

1/14/2019 11:27:16 AM

thegoodlife3
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he was talking about an endorsement, not her running

1/14/2019 11:29:01 AM

Bullet
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ok, my bad

1/14/2019 11:34:17 AM

GrumpyGOP
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"Yea defensive bc you perpetuate a myth of the last election."


It's a myth to say that there was a lot of bitterness on the Bernie side? Because I see plenty of it just in this thread.

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"sanders ran a civil campaign against clinton and campaigned for her after the primary, gtfo here with that "this time we need to be civil" nonsense"


I actually think Bernie was quite civil. Some of his supporters, less so. Again, you can see it right here in this thread.

1/14/2019 12:04:10 PM

dtownral
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uncivil actions in this thread such as pointing out the history of other candidates

zero people care what a current or former GOP member thinks they should do in the primary

1/14/2019 12:57:30 PM

moron
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I don’t know anything about Castro but he does have a funny shaped head.

1/14/2019 1:50:01 PM

GrumpyGOP
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^^I'm fine with the pointing out. But the idea of "there is zero reason to say anything nice" is not constructive.

But good to know - only people who have been Democrats since birth can post in this thread.

1/14/2019 2:20:30 PM

adultswim
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That's not what I said though? I said we (as in actual left-wingers) shouldn't be praising conservative Democrats this early in the primary. In my honest opinion, they're the enemy and we shouldn't praise them ever, but I held back

1/14/2019 2:27:48 PM

dtownral
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"I don’t know anything about Castro but he does have a funny shaped head."

he's a neoliberal

1/14/2019 2:56:09 PM

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