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MONGO
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^^^I'm not some political expert but I'd guess they're acting this way because they know nothing will come of this.

Does anyone know what it'll take for an independent investigation? It has to start with bilateral support from both parties, right?

[Edited on May 10, 2017 at 11:33 AM. Reason : .]

5/10/2017 11:31:07 AM

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Once again, is this real life?

5/10/2017 11:35:24 AM

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^^ There is now growing bipartisan support

5/10/2017 11:37:48 AM

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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/us/politics/comey-russia-investigation-fbi.html?smid=tw-share&referer=https://t.co/7JfHgQf4Co

Oh?

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"WASHINGTON — Days before he was fired, James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, asked the Justice Department for a significant increase in money and personnel for the bureau’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the presidential election, according to three officials with knowledge of his request.

Mr. Comey asked for the resources during a meeting last week with Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general who wrote the Justice Department’s memo that was used to justify the firing of the F.B.I. director this week."


[Edited on May 10, 2017 at 11:46 AM. Reason : the pending leaks are going to be epic]

5/10/2017 11:42:52 AM

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I'm afraid it's going to be like the UNC investigation... bombshells will keep getting dropped, it'll drag on for years and years, and nothing will ever come of it.

5/10/2017 11:49:13 AM

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stolen from Reddit:

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It's hard for me to see any U.S. ties to Russia…except for

the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing and
the Tillerson thing and
the Sessions thing and
the Kushner thing and
the Carter Page thing and
the Roger Stone thing and
the Felix Sater thing and
the Boris Ephsteyn thing and
the Rosneft thing and
the Gazprom thing and
the Sergey Gorkov banker thing and
the Azerbajain thing and
the “I love Putin” thing and
the Donald Trump, Jr. thing and
the Sergey Kislyak thing and
the Russian Affiliated Interests thing and
the Russian Business Interests thing and
the Emoluments Clause thing and
the Alex Schnaider thing and
the hack of the DNC thing and
the Guccifer 2.0 thing and
the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing and
the Russians mysteriously dying thing and
the Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing and
the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing and
the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing and
the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing and
the Cyprus bank thing and
the Trump not releasing his tax returns thing and
the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing and
the election hacking thing and
the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing and
the Steele Dossier thing and
the Leninist Bannon thing and
the Sally Yates can’t testify thing and
the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing and
the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing and
the Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing and
the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing and
the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing and
the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord SUDDENLY in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing and
the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by trump in the trump university scandal appointed to head the investigation thing and
the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing and
the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing and
the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing and
the Agent M16 following the money thing and
the trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing and
the Corey Lewendowski thing and
the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against trump to a state level Schneiderman thing and
the Betsy Devos' Brother thing and
the Sebastian Gorka thing and
the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing and
the pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing and
the Pence and Manafort connection thing and
the 7 Allies coming forward with audio where trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing and
the carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list AND
NOW the trump wants to VETO Sally Yates' testimony thing!!!
SO yeah there’s probably nothing there!"

5/10/2017 12:00:52 PM

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I again want to commend Trump on doing a great job proving what libertarians been saying would happen if we go down the really bad idea centralized power path"


You mean civil libertarians like Rand Paul?

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/05/10/rand-comey-firing-couldnt-happen-soon-enough-lot-of-hypocrisy-and-crocodile-tears-over-it/

The guy who's sticking to the Executive's talking points? Who can't even admit the timing of this is slightly troubling?

Our system of checks and balances COULD be working just fine right now if congressional Republicans would put the country before their party. The crux of this entire problem is congress refuses to actually investigate or to appoint someone that would. Basically every congressional republican not calling for an independent investigator (most of them) is complicit in the coverup. If this continues, anyone that votes for these asshats in 2018 hates America.

5/10/2017 12:19:10 PM

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Wow at that NY Times article.

I'm starting to see coverage of grand juries and possible indictments coming down. Not linking anything because I haven't seen it on anything yet that I'd regard as reliable.

5/10/2017 12:22:13 PM

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the grumpy turtle opposes a special prosecutor

5/10/2017 1:38:52 PM

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"Our system of checks and balances COULD be working just fine right now if congressional Republicans would put the country before their party."


we COULD not even need the govt at all if everyone respected others rights but this is real life. of course the congress is going to look after themselves and the people that paid for them to get there

5/10/2017 7:21:52 PM

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Is the Flynn subpoena still smoke, or can we confirm that a fire is actually burning yet?

5/10/2017 9:06:05 PM

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"11 Pages No Evidence"

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"BUT MUH NARRATIVE"

5/10/2017 9:19:00 PM

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Yes, this is nothing but liberal snowflakes crying and making up lies. Everything is fine.

5/10/2017 11:15:19 PM

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-trumps-anger-and-impatience-prompted-him-to-fire-the-fbi-director/2017/05/10/d9642334-359c-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html

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"Rosenstein threatened to resign after the narrative emerging from the White House on Tuesday evening cast him as a prime mover of the decision to fire Comey and that the president acted only on his recommendation...

Administration officials sometimes sought to push the FBI to prioritize leak probes over the Russia interference case, and at other times urged the bureau to investigate disclosures of information that was not classified or highly sensitive and therefore did not constitute crimes..."

5/11/2017 12:20:28 AM

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And yet there is not a shred of hard evidence of this conspiracy. Nothing but insinuation and lies.

But HRC operates an illegal server....nothing to see here

5/11/2017 1:59:40 AM

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What Clinton did is a fine plus probation thing, this is incredibly serious, JCE

5/11/2017 7:50:11 AM

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^^ true. No one ever really talked about that

5/11/2017 9:05:56 AM

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Yeah I'm having trouble remembering what you are talking about. Illegal servers? Was this a big part of the election or something? Wonder why it wasn't ever talked about by the news media or the Republicans.

5/11/2017 9:22:59 AM

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What does Hilary Clinton have to do with anything? She wasn't elected and hasn't held a public office since 2013, right?

5/11/2017 10:08:50 AM

dtownral
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they don't want to admit they got played by russia

5/11/2017 10:18:47 AM

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-comey-decision-idUSKBN1862WP

Not the least bit surprised by this - still [mildly] surprised congress still can't get their act together to do anything.

5/11/2017 10:26:30 AM

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Sen. Grassley, who has been pretty fair from what I can tell, put out a statement insinuating that Trump is not the target of the Russia investigation.

But him actually colluding isn't really mainstream thought, is it? I mean there are certainly some people who think Trump masterminded all this but that would require him to actually have a functioning brain, which is a stretch.

[Edited on May 11, 2017 at 10:36 AM. Reason : X]

5/11/2017 10:36:12 AM

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"What Clinton did is a fine plus probation thing, this is incredibly serious, JCE"


What is? A hypocritical, coordinated, leftist media smear campaign? Fake news is fake news.

5/11/2017 11:24:20 AM

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^^I don't think there is anything to point to him colluding with anyone or masterminding anything, but trump knows his business/money connections to russia, knows the people who have surrounded him, knew about flynn etc... so he shouldn't be viewed as some kind of uninvolved bystander

[Edited on May 11, 2017 at 11:26 AM. Reason : .]

5/11/2017 11:26:08 AM

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^^ the acting director of the FBI literally just said this is a "highly significant investigation"

[Edited on May 11, 2017 at 11:43 AM. Reason : Sorry, missed a word]

5/11/2017 11:42:23 AM

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i'd encourage everyone to just ignore JCE2011 in this thread, it should be obvious to you that he is trolling and has no interest in a good intentioned debate or discussion"

5/11/2017 11:46:51 AM

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"And yet there is not a shred of hard evidence of this conspiracy. Nothing but insinuation and lies.
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the complete lack of anything emerging through leaks other than the pissgate fanfiction practically proves that the entirety of Russiagate is smoke and mirrors.

Flynn is being subpoenaed by Congress for dealings with Turkey, not Russia. Writing an editorial on the importance of Turkey as a NATO member to our dealings with ISIS and the ridiculousness of the Obama administration potentially meddling in the Turkish coup last year doesn't really sound all that treasonous.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/foreign-policy/305021-our-ally-turkey-is-in-crisis-and-needs-our-support

Hopefully Flynn's testimony will be as epic as Martin Shkreli trolling Congress.

5/11/2017 11:55:28 AM

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/10/politics/flynn-subpoena/

This is one link but every one says he is being subpoenaed for his interaction with Russian officials.

5/11/2017 12:07:54 PM

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eleusis is a trump-supporting cuckold, you can ignore him, he will defend trump against all logic

5/11/2017 12:35:03 PM

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http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/10/527755991/trump-meets-with-russias-lavrov-at-the-white-house-today

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"[Russian Foreign Minister] Lavrov's meeting with the president was scheduled for 10:30 a.m. ET, and it was declared closed to the press. Russian agencies tweeted photos from the Oval Office showing that in addition to Lavrov, Trump shook hands with Russia's ambassador to America, Sergey Kislyak — a key figure in the investigation into Trump's ousted national security adviser, Michael Flynn."


https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/862641882983215105

5/11/2017 12:40:55 PM

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So is "they tricked us" the official response to why TASS was the only ones let in?

Not exactly confidence inspiring in regards to the administrations dealings with Russian intelligence.

5/11/2017 12:45:57 PM

MONGO
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Now Trump is saying he was going to fire Comey regardless of what Sessions and Rosenstein said.

https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/862712861096685569

Not exactly helping your case, Donald.

5/11/2017 1:19:14 PM

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TWWbreakingnews.jpg

http://www.wbaltv.com/article/fbi-searching-annapolis-fundraiserconsulting-firm/9639787
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FBI searching Annapolis GOP fundraising firm
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Plz be related, plz be related, plz be related

5/11/2017 2:14:10 PM

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strategic campaign group? they've been in trouble before, don't think its related

5/11/2017 2:22:53 PM

TerdFerguson
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Ya killing muh dreams bruh

5/11/2017 2:32:49 PM

dtownral
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lol, people on twitter are acting like the are connected to everything russia-trump but i don't see anythign when i google them and all the common names/companies

5/11/2017 2:51:55 PM

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It's nothing.

https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/862741387707658240

[Edited on May 11, 2017 at 2:57 PM. Reason : People who push Louise Mench type conspiracy nonsense arent helpful ]

5/11/2017 2:56:49 PM

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Comey's #2 and acting FBI Director said there was no request for funding into Russian probe...

I guess people ITT are reading too much #FakeNews (NYT)

5/11/2017 4:01:55 PM

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/863007411132649473

Even though there isn't one, if there was a pee tape the FBI would be leaking it today.

This is clinical insanity. He is losing it. It's sad.

5/12/2017 8:36:03 AM

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What amazes me is we are almost half a year into Trump's presidency, yet the leftists and fake news media show no signs of slowing down their hysterical fabricated outrage.

I guess this is what happens when you no longer need evidence for narratives. If the echo chamber is strong enough, you can spin whatever narrative you want without any burden of proof.

5/12/2017 9:36:38 AM

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5/12/2017 9:55:35 AM

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I'd encourage everyone to take note that this thread has 11 pages and zero evidence.

I'd encourage everyone to take note that every single link is to a leftist fake news outlet.

5/12/2017 9:58:40 AM

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5/12/2017 10:06:41 AM

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11 Pages of gullible hacks reading #FakeNews ITT

5/12/2017 10:59:50 AM

dtownral
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Do Trump's Murky Financial Ties to Russia Connect to Money Laundering?
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/04/trump-financial-ties-russia-money-laundering-banks-oligarchs-manafort

Reminder that Trump had to pay a $10M because his atlantic city casino failed to follow standards designed to prevent money laundering:
Trump Taj Mahal Settles Over Anti-Money-Laundering Violations
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-taj-mahal-settles-over-anti-money-laundering-violations-1423669834

5/12/2017 11:13:46 AM

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Here is a good background on Sergey Kislyak:

THE INCONVENIENT COMRADE
AS THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN'S POSSIBLE COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA SPIRALS INTO CHAOS, ONE MAN HAS FOUND HIMSELF AT THE CENTER: SERGEY KISLYAK. NO WONDER EVERYONE FROM JEFF SESSIONS TO JARED KUSHNER HAS HAD A HARD TIME REMEMBERING MEETING WITH THE RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR. BUT WHO IS KISLYAK? AND WHAT DOES HE KNOW?
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a54959/forgetting-sergey-kislyak/

5/12/2017 11:14:25 AM

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Leftist hack at leftist media outlet says leftist talking point? Wow, this will surely be the end of Trump! -dtwonral every post ITT

5/12/2017 3:46:55 PM

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Donald Trump's tax law firm has 'deep' ties to Russia

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-tax-law-firm-deep-ties-russia/story?id=47376041&cid=social_fb_abcn
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"In 2016, however, Chambers & Partners, a London-based legal research publication, named the firm “Russia Law Firm of the Year” at its annual awards dinner. The firm celebrated the “prestigious honor” in a press release on its website, noting that the award is “the latest honor for the high-profile work performed by the lawyers in Morgan Lewis’ Moscow office.”

According to the firm’s website, its Moscow office includes more than 40 lawyers and staff who are “well known in the Russian market, and have a deep familiarity with the local legislation, practices, and key players.” The firm boasts of being “particularly adept” at advising clients on “sanction matters.""


yuuuge lol

5/12/2017 4:14:56 PM

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Why is everyone so obsessed with this russia thing? Our government has been colluding with Saudi Arabia (our real enemy) for decades and no one bats an eye. It really does sound like you just want to freak out about everything trump does.

5/12/2017 11:42:03 PM

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"James Comey is willing to speak to Congress following his sudden dismissal as head of the FBI earlier this week, but he wants the testimony to be public, according to a new report.
Comey declined an invitation to speak to the Senate Intelligence Committee in a closed door session next week.

However, The New York Times reports that Comey is willing to speak if it's a public hearing."


Yaaassssss

5/13/2017 10:56:26 AM

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