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Money_Jones
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https://youtu.be/dxWvtMOGAhw

Fuck yeah.

6/9/2017 10:32:05 PM

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I'm stoked.

6/9/2017 11:49:02 PM

BanjoMan
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It looks like they may finally have a great villain in this one!

6/10/2017 6:29:51 AM

ssclark
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What's great about killmonger and claw? (srs question not sassmouth)

6/10/2017 9:38:36 AM

BigMan157
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they're pretty shit characters but hopefully the actors elevate them

6/10/2017 9:50:02 AM

Dynasty2004
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6/10/2017 10:00:01 AM

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I can't take Michael Jordan seriously, even if Creed.

It does look good though. The Black Panther outfit looks really good; probably one of the cooler getups in the MCU.

[Edited on June 10, 2017 at 10:53 AM. Reason : 't]

6/10/2017 10:53:49 AM

ssclark
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am I having a stroke or did dynasty post the exact same video ?

in other news ... Legend has it has a great fucking beat.

6/10/2017 1:11:03 PM

The Coz
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Sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther Party.

6/10/2017 3:58:30 PM

Money_Jones
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"they're pretty shit characters but hopefully the actors elevate them"


One of the dumber things I've read lately.

6/10/2017 5:39:01 PM

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I'm really interested to see the box office comparison for this movie given its so rare to see a block buster heavy African American centric movie. I wonder if that will hurt or help overallbox office numbers

6/10/2017 5:39:29 PM

BigMan157
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^^you think a c-list fantastic 4 villain and kony 2012 are amazing characters? what an ignorant shit

6/10/2017 8:36:05 PM

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NERD FIGHT!!!

6/10/2017 9:57:55 PM

BanjoMan
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"you think a c-list fantastic 4 villain and kony 2012 are amazing characters? what an ignorant shit"


If Marvel can take a c-list hero (i.e. Ant Man, the Black Panther) and make something great out of it, then they can do the same thing with a villain.

[Edited on June 11, 2017 at 1:01 PM. Reason : t]

6/11/2017 1:00:05 PM

BigMan157
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you're right they absolutely can, but that's a long way from declaring it right now from a teaser trailer

6/11/2017 4:55:50 PM

Money_Jones
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^^really curious who you would consider even B-list, much less A-list, if you are trying to call fucking Black Panther C-list.

6/11/2017 7:10:41 PM

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Don't mind him. I used to think there was some spark of intelligence there, but I was mistaken. He is a dog whose whimper sounds like "hello," and people ascribe the power of speech to him. Don't be fooled.

[Edited on June 12, 2017 at 6:20 AM. Reason : ...]

6/12/2017 5:54:18 AM

Dynasty2004
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"am I having a stroke or did dynasty post the exact same video ?"


No stroke. I just embedded it so we don't have dumb looking threads.

6/12/2017 3:07:00 PM

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I still can't get over how great MCU's pacing is. Especially if you compare it to DC's universe. Nearly every character has been introduced with their own (usually great) movie, or very organically introduced in a different movie (Spiderman/Black Panther - Civil War), and leaves audiences wanting to see more.

Every other connected universe feels like they're trying to cram too much material down too quickly. And Marvel's patience is paying off. It's been nearly a decade since Iron Man and audiences still aren't tired yet. Even longer if you include the Hulk.

6/12/2017 3:14:26 PM

BEU
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So I watched African American YouTube reactions to this almost entirely African American cast movie. There is definitely a level of excitement embedded in this that I, as a white person, don't experience when watching the trailer. I think its fantastic to see.

Has there ever been a movie on this scale that's had a nearly all black cast?

An action popcorn movie for that matter?

[Edited on June 12, 2017 at 3:42 PM. Reason : kj]

6/12/2017 3:41:56 PM

rjrumfel
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^Maybe not a movie, but what about Luke Cage?

6/12/2017 3:53:17 PM

BanjoMan
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"Has there ever been a movie on this scale that's had a nearly all black cast?"


La La Land?

6/12/2017 4:50:57 PM

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"Has there ever been a movie on this scale that's had a nearly all black cast?"




6/12/2017 5:05:15 PM

bdmazur
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Looks like Martin Freeman will be getting a lot more screen time. I'm looking forward to that.

6/12/2017 5:51:59 PM

BEU
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[Edited on June 12, 2017 at 7:25 PM. Reason : dsa]

6/12/2017 7:24:58 PM

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Can't wait. I'm looking more to this than Spider Man. I'm assuming one calls black panther is a c list hero is because you are very unfamiliar with the story, he a big deal in the comic world and am glad that marvel is doing a movie. Civil war was a good introduction to the main audience. Im curious how they wil take the story as black panther is deep in African pan mythology and rite of passage

6/12/2017 8:06:47 PM

BigMan157
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i hope they fully embrace it, otherwise he's just another iron man more or less

6/12/2017 11:56:56 PM

BanjoMan
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"really curious who you would consider even B-list, much less A-list, if you are trying to call fucking Black Panther C-list"


When Iron Man came out with his big debut solo movie, people were raving at how Marvel used a b-list hero to set up an entire cinematic universe. Not that the opinion of critics is worth a damn, but if I had to make a rough list on the fly, then:

Spiderman, Batman and Superman are your obvious A-listers. Those movies are gonna make money regardless. Then comes Wolverine, the Cap and the Hulk further down on the A-list.

Iron Man, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Quicksilver, so forth are the B guys.

Then, yeah, the heroes that are probably gonna be more noticed and loved by actual comic book fans are gonna be Ant Man, AquaMan, I would put Black Panther here but OK, maybe not.

And then way below these guys come the guardians.

6/13/2017 1:43:40 PM

BEU
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I was going to say, make a good movie and the audience will come, but dear god look at this last arthur movie.

Holy crap losing 150 million or so.

6/13/2017 2:30:14 PM

rjrumfel
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^But was it a good movie?

6/13/2017 2:47:34 PM

BEU
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I've heard its good.

6/13/2017 2:54:22 PM

FroshKiller
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jesus fucking christ BanjoMan

6/13/2017 3:09:59 PM

Lokken
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None of those heroes you mentioned are B list except maybe quicksilver. They are all extremely A list in the comics.

[Edited on June 13, 2017 at 4:00 PM. Reason : *]

6/13/2017 4:00:35 PM

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To be fair, near everybody is considered an A-lister in the comics.

I'm pretty sure Marvel quoted themselves as being stuck with B-level heroes when they sold the movie rights to Spider-Man, X-Men, and the Fantastic Four back in the day, as those were the most popular franchises. Marvel being Marvel, took these "B-level" heroes, made them popular via the movies, then used the comics to raise them into the A-listers that we know today. Black Panther has only been elevated to something more relevant in the last ten years.

6/13/2017 8:28:39 PM

BigMan157
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i'm hoping they sneak in namor at the end of this movie

6/13/2017 8:55:12 PM

AndyMac
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Don't think they can use Namor based on this chart I've seen, but it's a few years old and doesn't take into account the Spidey deal.



Also I think Hulk should be half in Universal because they have distribution rights to a solo Hulk movie, which is probably why they aren't making one and have stuck Planet Hulk in Thor 3.

6/13/2017 10:05:13 PM

FroshKiller
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SuperDude said:
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"Black Panther has only been elevated to something more relevant in the last ten years."


You're ignorant of history. Black Panther had a very successful solo series that generated a lot of the elements being used in this film in 1998, 19 years ago. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[Edited on June 14, 2017 at 5:57 AM. Reason : shit it was even earlier than i remembered]

6/14/2017 5:53:27 AM

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Black Panther having a successful solo series does not equate to being elevated to something relevant. I can think of certain X-books in the 90's that went on for longer; doesn't mean that they have risen through the pantheon of heroes as something relevant. Gen X, Excalibur, New Mutants are all on the lower end of the totem pole as far as I'm concerned.

I think his 2005 series was a better introduction of the character. If you want to introduce semantics that 2005 didn't exist in the last ten years, then by all means, go ahead.

6/14/2017 7:50:39 AM

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He first appeared in Fantastic Four in the mid-'60s, teamed up with Cap for a hot minute, then jumped over to the Avengers as a full member within two years of his first appearance. And that whole time, he was a kickass superhero who was also a goddamn king in a Marvel Universe that was not as bloated with characters as it is now. He was relevant from the jump. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're a fucking idiot.

6/14/2017 8:18:09 AM

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I'm surprised Fox hasn't tried to do some sort of X-Men/Fantastic Four crossover since it has the movie rights to both. But then again there is yet to be a good F4 movie and the X-men movies are hit and miss so ... nevermind.

6/14/2017 8:40:13 AM

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One of Claremont's ideas for the X-Men was that mutations caused by the X-Gene resulted in a very short lifespan, which is why there weren't any elderly mutants.

It'd be interesting to extend that idea into a Fantastic Four crossover. Beast reaches out to Reed Richards with this discovery, and they work together to try to save mutantkind. Reed discovers that the strange energies of the Negative Zone nullify the lethal effect. The X-Men and mutantkind at large are divided on the notion of leaving Earth behind to "colonize" the Negative Zone in order to save their lives and the future of mutantkind.

Meanwhile, a new group of extremists takes up the mantle of the Brotherhood. They believe the Negative Zone is the mutant Promised Land. They attack facilities meant to secure access to the Negative Zone, maybe some old Prison 42 leftovers. Their meddling in the Negative Zone rouses the fury of Annihilus, who nearly wipes out the Brotherhood until they make a dark offer. In exchange for asylum in the Negative Zone for all mutantkind, the Brotherhood will help Annihilus consume Earth once they've left it behind.

6/14/2017 8:49:37 AM

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"He first appeared in Fantastic Four in the mid-'60s, teamed up with Cap for a hot minute, then jumped over to the Avengers as a full member within two years of his first appearance. And that whole time, he was a kickass superhero who was also a goddamn king in a Marvel Universe that was not as bloated with characters as it is now. He was relevant from the jump. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're a fucking idiot."


He is the first black superhero. He's basically a combination of Batman and Captain America rolled into one, with a few extra powers. I know his relevance as he ranks in history and in various 1 v 1 scenarios of 'who would win'. For someone with that skillset, you'd think he'd be more heavily featured and be spammed in multiple comic books like Spider-Man back in the day. You must have a broad definition of relevance, so I'll clearly define mine - was Black Panther relevant enough to be a featured, marquee, household name that even non-comics fans might recognize?

Now take off your fanboy sunglasses and ask yourself who people would name if they were asked to name members of The Avengers back in the 1990's. Does Black Panther make it into the Top 5? Does he even get named? As a kid back in that day, I would have thrown out Hawkeye, Vision, Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor. Would you be the pretentious kid that throws out Black Panther, Mockingbird, Hercules, Beast, and Crystal just to prove your comic knowledge? I didn't even list Ant-Man, The Wasp, Scarlet Witch, and Quicksilver who are lesser but perhaps still more significant members of the Avengers that might get named ahead of Black Panther.

Am I asking the wrong question to get to the right answer? If I asked someone to name any 5 Marvel superheroes (still in the 1990's here), I'm sure he doesn't get named. Is 5 too small and unfair? Do I have to open it up to the top 25 or 50?

Do I need to ask someone who are the top 5 comic superheroes that are black? Would that be the only way to get someone to bring up Black Panther in the 90's?

It's pretty cool that I might ask my kids to name members of the Avengers in a few years, and Black Panther would be one of the first to be named. Times have changed and he's more relevant now than he ever was, partially because of Marvel's strategy to be more inclusive and also their need to elevate the characters they own to link television and movie media back to the comics.

6/14/2017 11:01:31 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_hSGY3qJnw

Black guy surrounded by white people in movie posters watching this trailer.

Might be fake.

6/14/2017 6:05:28 PM

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Eh, at this point in the MCU it's not even about who's the most popular character. It's about what characters offer them the best chance to build a story for and can be branched out from into further movies and characters. Black Panther followed by Namor by far give them the most to work with, and one of those doesn't have dubious movie rights.

I'd have personally done a black panther movie before a dr strange movie, but maybe the strange movie will allow them to get away with a panther god now. Who knows.

6/14/2017 6:46:08 PM

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They needed Dr Strange to really start to introduce the more mystical side of Marvel. Kind of like Guardians are a big help in expanding the galactic side.

6/15/2017 1:44:40 PM

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Cast photo



I'm pumped for this movie.

Also, fun fact: Marvel's Black Panther predates the foundation of the Black Panther party.

7/12/2017 9:07:29 PM

Money_Jones
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New trailer https://youtu.be/xjDjIWPwcPU

10/16/2017 12:10:16 PM

rjrumfel
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Looks like they might be taking a page from the Michael Bay playbook to get some of that Asian market.

Pretty awesome though. Seems a lot like Ant-Man to me, where it is almost nearly self-contained from the rest of the MCU. And I'm ok with that. Unless there's something they aren't showing us in the trailer, I only see Martin Freeman and that weapons dealer from Ultron.

10/16/2017 1:25:13 PM

Dynasty2004
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HOLY SHIT THAT KILLMONGER SUIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10/16/2017 1:46:12 PM

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set em up

10/17/2017 11:40:43 PM

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