Specifically, a 2017 Kia Niro LX. I have to say I am reallly impressed with the build quality. This car replaced my 2006 Saturn VUE V6 with 204,000 miles. Everything on that car was either totally broken or 99% broken. The engine and transmission (Honda J35) were still pretty solid. We are really excited, especially my wife, since this is her first new car ever! Going from 20mpg to ~55 will be nice.Here's what was wrong with my old car:A/C was really weak-useless in temperatures above 85 degreesDriver's seat was ripping at the seamsTurn signal stalk was broken-flasher clicks non-stop while drivingWindshield was cracked in 2 placesHit a deer a few years back-major quarter panel damage.Motor mounts were all badCV joints click when wheel is turned either wayRear alignment has been an issue-rear tires wear unevenly-steel belts showing on bothSuspension needs to be replaced all aroundSometimes the car won't start unless you wiggle the key. Key can be removed while the engine is runningFront brake pads wear down within a year even after new rotors and bleeding systemHorrible shimmy from front end under hard accelerationTailgate won't stay open on it's ownHas P0420 CEL code-can't pass inspectionSometimes under hard acceleration, engine goes into low power mode. Have to restart car-provided the worn ignition cylinder cooperatesSlight but persistent coolant leak-no idea where it's leaking fromOccasionally, after driving at 'high' highway speeds in very hot weather, transmission won't shift into 4th or 5th gear. Have to pull over and let everything cool down. Car is fine after cooldown period.Have to press buttons on fob super hard to lock/unlock car even after cleaning and new battery[Edited on September 23, 2017 at 6:14 PM. Reason : .]
9/23/2017 6:12:56 PM
Haha. I also made a list of everything wrong with my old car when I got a new one. It made me feel slightly better about spending money. Slightly.
9/23/2017 7:10:44 PM
I have a Kia. It was "supposed to be" after they had fixed "electronic issues" but.. It's had electronics issues. It is 5 years old now though. GLWKia
9/23/2017 8:42:15 PM
9/23/2017 10:41:34 PM
Dammit I was hoping it was the Kia Stinger
9/24/2017 1:22:35 AM
^
9/25/2017 1:46:51 PM
^^
9/25/2017 7:37:17 PM
LXMSRP$23,200*Horsepower, 1.6-Liter Engine104 hp @ 5,700 rpmHorsepower, Electric Motor43 hp @ 1,800-2,500 rpmHorsepower, Combined139 hp @ 5,700 rpmEPA MPG (City/Highway/Combined)51/46/49
9/26/2017 8:15:05 AM
9/26/2017 1:19:32 PM
I closet love our soul100k miles without even a small problemIf the stinger had a manual in the gt version I'd seriously consider it
9/27/2017 5:54:03 PM
We almost bought a Soul EV, but the Niro made more sense to us. Not enough charging infrastructure with only ~100 mile range
9/29/2017 8:17:31 PM
I bought a '12 Forte Koup new in late '11. Going on six years and 72k miles, and it's been trouble-free. It's my wife's car primarily but it was also our trip vehicle until earlier this year when I got something newer. No regrets on the purchase and it's still got 28k of powertrain warranty left.We'd probably keep it until the warranty was up, if not longer, except for the fact that my wife is expecting and I don't imagine it's going to be fun to get a child seat in and out of a compact 2-door. The Niro looks good though. I'd probably be considering one if we were going to replace the Forte with a new car, but I really don't want a second car payment combined with childcare expenses.
9/29/2017 11:14:24 PM
^^^^, looks like I need to go by a Kia dealer. Really like what I've seen on the Stinger, and the maxima is at 180k miles now.
9/30/2017 4:04:55 PM
^ Also check out the just-released Genesis G70, which will carry the same powertrains as the Kia Stinger.
9/30/2017 6:28:59 PM
10/1/2017 5:32:46 PM
So... the Stinger GT beats the 640i Gran Coupe M Sport and equals the Panamera 3.0L V6 in certain tests at a certain track (At less than half the price)https://www.motor1.com/news/227705/kia-stinger-porsche-bmw watch videoFull test:https://www.motor1.com/reviews/200284/2018-kia-stinger-first-driveWith designers and engineers from Lambo, Audi, and BMW M working for KIA now and involved in the Stinger's development, not surprised I guess!
1/19/2018 8:52:41 AM
If Kia would only supply cars with 3 pedals that are fun.. They would make great used bargains in a few years.
1/20/2018 6:04:05 PM
My coworker just bought a fully loaded Stinger GT2!
1/24/2018 9:01:44 AM
Interesting...
1/24/2018 1:55:26 PM
Congrats on the new purchase. I'm not a fan of hybrids in general, but at least you bought an attractive looking one!I have no love for Saturns, but in that car's defense a lot of the stuff that "was wrong" with it were maintenance items that usually are due well before 200k miles.
1/26/2018 10:59:55 AM
^^ I can't fathom dropping 50k for the privilege of driving a brand new kia..
1/28/2018 9:41:04 AM
^ See the link I posted about it beating a Panamera and a 6 SeriesBut I still see your point.
1/28/2018 11:12:47 AM
people who are cross-shopping the panamera and 6 series don't care if something can win every track test
1/28/2018 2:17:04 PM
of course no one is cross shopping it with a panamera or a 6 series, that was just to show that it is a capable car, and that has its cost. i can definitely see someone cross shopping it with the 3/4 series, though.by the way, the 365 hp GT can be had for $38K, if you don't get any options or packages, and that's more than a fair price.
1/28/2018 2:42:50 PM
[Edited on January 28, 2018 at 2:43 PM. Reason : damn double post]