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packfootball
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^^ That's a lazy response.

Here's the thing, I'm not claiming this is some sort of grand conspiracy, I'm just saying something is sketch about the details we know. A crazy loner kills his neighbors because their dogs shit in his yard. A 60 year old fairly wealthy man with a significant other, no religious or political affiliation, no criminal history and no history of mental illness doesn't commit terrorism on this scale. I'm not saying this is some kind of grand conspiracy involving govt agencies, I'm just saying there's gotta be something we don't know. It could be as simple as he became affiliated with a political organization in his time overseas, or he was a paranoid schizophrenic, but we've got absolutely nothing. I'm not claiming the police know something we don't, it could very well be everybody doesn't know which seems to be the case.

8/4/2018 11:18:58 AM

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8/4/2018 1:26:18 PM

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"no criminal history and no history of mental illness doesn't commit terrorism on this scale."


Here’s what I don’t get - why don’t they just chalk it up to lone wolf terrorism? Does a motive have to be more complicated than he wanted to hurt people and create terror? We all joke about white people never being blamed for terrorism, but damn, calling him a lone wolf is better than just shrugging your shoulders and claiming you couldn’t figure it out.

8/4/2018 3:15:16 PM

packfootball
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^Isn't that what is inferred?

8/4/2018 3:34:43 PM

packfootball
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^^ You should watch this docu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb2iFikOwYU

I think it's not so much that nobody wants to classify a white person's crime as terrorism as much as it is police not going down that path in their investigation because statistics don't support it. Not saying the statistics are used effectively by law enforcement, but the statistics themselves discussed in the docu are pretty hard to dispute.

8/4/2018 4:01:32 PM

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"why don’t they just chalk it up to lone wolf terrorism? Does a motive"


Terrorism requires a motive.

8/4/2018 7:15:45 PM

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Anatomy of a Conspiracy Theory
Credible sources say the Las Vegas shooting was a one-man job. But a small band of former government insiders is propagating a wild alternative theory—with dangerous consequences.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/16/conspiracy-theory-las-vegas-shooting-dangerous-222576

11/16/2018 11:10:56 AM

justinh524
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Ok so crazy people think it's a conspiracy. Cool.

11/16/2018 11:35:18 AM

Bullet
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"Crazy People" including former CIA agent, a former Trump NCS member, and a current member of congress... not just your run-of-the-mill crazy conspiracists on the internet.

[Edited on November 16, 2018 at 12:02 PM. Reason : ]

11/16/2018 12:02:37 PM

justinh524
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Yeah, they're still fucking nut jobs.

And they have pretty much ruined an innocent guy's life.

11/16/2018 12:50:47 PM

Bullet
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I agree, i just assumed by your casual dismissal of it that you thought it wasn't a big deal., when it kinda is.

11/16/2018 1:06:31 PM

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I don't know the wackos motive but I suspect if he had a vendetta against the police for a somewhat valid reason we wouldn't hear about it

11/16/2018 1:26:47 PM

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So still nothing eh? This guy was a mastermind who was able to cloak his motive from this nation's law enforcement etc?

3/18/2019 11:24:27 PM

TreeTwista10
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Why must he have had some specific political motive

3/18/2019 11:36:13 PM

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Where did I say he must he have had some specific political motive?

3/18/2019 11:57:04 PM

TreeTwista10
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You just said he was able to cloak his motive, implying he had one, and before that said "terrorism requires a motive." I don't know what kind of motive you're looking for, but it doesn't sound like you're going to get your question answered.

3/19/2019 12:26:47 AM

Cabbage
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Some people seem to kill for the hell of it; aside from simply wanting to kill, they have no real motive at all.

3/19/2019 1:55:19 AM

dtownral
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where was kamala harris at the time?

3/19/2019 9:19:24 AM

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"You just said he was able to cloak his motive, implying he had one"


Of course he had a motive. This was a methodical act. He didn't trip and fall into that situation.

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"before that said "terrorism requires a motive""


That's a true statement.

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"I don't know what kind of motive you're looking for, but it doesn't sound like you're going to get your question answered."


For sure, I just don't understand how the FBI etc couldn't unearth some sort of motive, or at least share some pieces of they found with us (outside of the obvious public record stuff...employment history etc). I'm not going full eleusis here but I don't understand why they haven't said more.

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Agreed

3/19/2019 1:20:02 PM

rjrumfel
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I think maybe this was just a general failure for law enforcement all around - from local response all the way up to fed monitoring. They probably just don't want to talk about it, and they realize that it is long past its 24 hour news cycle, so why dredge up something that the general public has long since forgotten.

LOOK! A SQUIRREL!

3/19/2019 2:03:28 PM

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"Of course he had a motive. This was a methodical act. He didn't trip and fall into that situation."


I'm not convinced that method implies motive. Aren't serial killers a counterexample?

3/19/2019 4:18:31 PM

Bullet
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Isn't sexual gratification the motive of most serial killers? Like Dahmer, and Bundy, and the Golden State Killer, and Gacy....

3/19/2019 4:21:29 PM

Cabbage
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^Possibly, I don't know.

Wait: Maybe the Vegas shooter was jerking off while he was shooting.

Right there's your motive, B.

[Edited on March 19, 2019 at 4:39 PM. Reason : ]

3/19/2019 4:39:24 PM

justinh524
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Case closed. Lock the thread

3/19/2019 4:44:27 PM

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"Aren't serial killers a counterexample?"


A lot of them hated women/target specific groups of people.

3/19/2019 5:47:55 PM

raiden
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maybe the dude was just nuts?

3/19/2019 6:19:28 PM

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They haven't said that either.

3/19/2019 9:17:46 PM

justinh524
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It's clear this guy just hated bro country.

I hate it too, but not quite that much.

3/19/2019 9:21:28 PM

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That's about all we have to go on

3/19/2019 9:26:41 PM

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