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0EPII1
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^^^

It pains me that such people and such hate exists in the world



[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 11:24 AM. Reason : https://i.imgur.com/qsguily.png]

10/3/2017 11:24:02 AM

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^^how did the guy who shot the security guard and SWAT team through the door escape if it wasn't the guy who was inside when they finally breached the room?

OR IS ALL THAT FALSE INFORMATION THAT'S PART OF THE FALSE FLAG OPERATION?!?

fucking morons

[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 11:24 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2017 11:24:12 AM

JayMCnasty
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I thought the story was that he was doa from suicide

I never said false flag. People were injured and killed. Just questioning the person who they are saying is the shooter.

[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 11:26 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2017 11:25:28 AM

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I think it's reasonable to question why a 60+ year old white guy would mow down a crowd of country music fans and act alone. But crazy people don't behave rationally so trying to understand his motivation is sort of a fools errand anyway.

10/3/2017 11:25:46 AM

dtownral
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^^yes, and he also shot a security guard and shot at swat through the door before they entered the suite


BUT OMG THESE FACTS DON'T ADD UP!!! IT MUST BE A CONSPIRACY!

[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 11:26 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2017 11:26:29 AM

JayMCnasty
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I just don't believe everything I hear until I see enough evidence to validate the accusation. I don't think that makes me crazy or stupid.

10/3/2017 11:28:16 AM

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It doesn't. Everything is pure speculation at this point, and a lot of it is dangerous and misguided to promote a political agenda. But calling it a false flag seems pretty ridiculous, given how little we know.

10/3/2017 11:30:06 AM

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not crazy:
these facts don't make sense to me, but i understand it is still early in the investigation and the media doesn't have all the facts and often even gets things wrong in the beginning for stuff like this

crazy:
these facts don't make sense to me, i bet he's not the shooter or there is some kind of conspiracy

[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 11:34 AM. Reason : [i]]

10/3/2017 11:33:53 AM

JayMCnasty
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Calling it a false flag would be saying that I don't think anybody was injured or killed and they were all paid actors. I am not saying that at all.

I don't "bet" anything. I don't know anything based on the current evidence.

[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 11:38 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2017 11:34:41 AM

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"Calling it a false flag would be saying that I don't think anybody was injured or killed and they were all paid actors."


Not calling you anything, but those are not the only types of false flags.

A government giving a Muslim weapons (via an implant) to kill civilians and then using that as a pretext to bomb a Muslim country or ban immigration/organizations is also a false flag.

Indeed, those who believe that 9/11 was a false flag of course believe 3,000 people died, but they believe the government is evil enough to kill any number of its own citizens to launch wars, etc.

In smaller operations involving only injuries they do believe it is paid actors.

10/3/2017 11:44:37 AM

dtownral
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most of the "terrorist plots" that the FBI has stopped in recent years have been false flags, where the FBI essentially orchestrated, enabled, and entrapped the "terrorists"

10/3/2017 11:47:22 AM

JayMCnasty
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Ok so calling this a false flag would be saying something like

"the democrats did this on purpose to push a gun control agenda"

I am saying

"The media would rather report bad information first than good information last"

10/3/2017 11:50:13 AM

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Saudi Arabia did 911 and our government knew about it afterwards at least. we have a mountain of evidence on that and people still believe the original lie.

10/3/2017 11:50:31 AM

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^^you're saying "It might not have been him.... "

10/3/2017 11:52:21 AM

JayMCnasty
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So you can say for sure it was him?

10/3/2017 11:53:24 AM

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Quote :
"Ok so calling this a false flag would be saying"

Quote :
"Anybody else not 100 percent on the guy they are saying did this actually did it?"


[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 11:58 AM. Reason : nice pivot attempt with "the media" though]

10/3/2017 11:55:56 AM

JayMCnasty
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Yeah. I don't 100 percent believe that guy did it because it's been just over 24 hours and his narrative is already being forced down our throats with 0 evidence backing it.

10/3/2017 11:58:58 AM

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So the muslims did it, and they are saying this white dude did it to save face?

What's your historical precedent for this type of conspiracy?

This isn't the media. It's the LVMPD, FBI etc.

10/3/2017 12:03:05 PM

afripino
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Are you 100 percent that Donald Trump isn't a member of ISIS?

10/3/2017 12:03:08 PM

tulsigabbard
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The desire to suppress anyone who questions anything the government says is unwise, and undemocratic. If you don't want to come off as a fascist, maybe you should point towards evidence and logic that bolsters the story coming from the government. Thats a much more productive discussion anyway.

10/3/2017 12:03:17 PM

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"I have a weird feeling he may not have acted alone, and maybe he had an accomplice that killed him and escaped."


Vegas has so many cameras everywhere, both inside and outside the hotels, that more details surrounding the shooter, his activities leading up to the shootings, accomplices (if applicable), etc will come out as the footage is reviewed. It would be virtually impossible for an accomplice (if there was one) to go unnoticed.

10/3/2017 12:03:58 PM

JayMCnasty
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"What's your historical precedent for this type of conspiracy?
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Kennedy
Watergate
9/11
Pearl Harbor

All have unanswered questions. It's ok to ask questions.

[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 12:05 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2017 12:05:31 PM

afripino
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Have we discussed the Illuminati angle yet?

10/3/2017 12:07:19 PM

beatsunc
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guys there could have been 1 shooter per broken window and 2nd guy killed Paddock

[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 12:08 PM. Reason : too slow. didnt read]

10/3/2017 12:07:40 PM

dtownral
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then who shot at the security guard and swat officers?

10/3/2017 12:09:38 PM

beatsunc
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¯\_(?)_/¯

10/3/2017 12:11:10 PM

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^^ the ISIS guy

it's a CONSPIRACY

10/3/2017 12:13:22 PM

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"Yeah. I don't 100 percent believe that guy did it because it's been just over 24 hours and his narrative is already being forced down our throats with 0 evidence backing it."


I mean yes, almost a day and a half into the investigation, the police haven’t released to the public time synced casino video footage of all his movements along with detailed info of the hotel room electronic lock records, and finger print results from all the guns too 100% convince us that this guy did it. But that’s because it’s only been a fucking day and a half, and I’m sure that is all being worked on, meanwhile, him being dead in the room from apparent suicide is a hell of a lot more than zero evidence.

10/3/2017 12:19:01 PM

JayMCnasty
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^^You're right I forgot. Our government and the FBI have always been truthful, honest and loyal to it's citizens.


It's probably not a conspiracy, but it's not off the table until ^ is produced

[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 12:25 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2017 12:19:15 PM

NCSUGimp
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SOUNDS LIKE LIZARD PEOPLE TO ME....

10/3/2017 12:24:59 PM

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"police haven’t released to the public time synced casino video footage of all his movements along with detailed info of the hotel room electronic lock records, and finger print results from all the guns too 100% convince us that this guy did it. But that’s because it’s only been a fucking day and a half, and I’m sure that is all being [generated]"


ftfy

10/3/2017 12:25:53 PM

0EPII1
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12 Million Americans Believe Lizard People Run Our Country
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/04/12-million-americans-believe-lizard-people-run-our-country/316706

How to Spot the Reptilians Running the U.S. Government
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/10/how-spot-reptilians-runing-us-government/354496

Conspiracy craze: why 12 million Americans believe alien lizards rule us
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/apr/07/conspiracy-theory-paranoia-aliens-illuminati-beyonce-vaccines-cliven-bundy-jfk

‘I am not a lizard’: Mark Zuckerberg is latest celebrity asked about reptilian conspiracy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/15/i-am-not-a-lizard-mark-zuckerberg-is-latest-celebrity-asked-about-reptilian-conspiracy

10/3/2017 12:53:29 PM

JayMCnasty
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"‘I am not a lizard’: Mark Zuckerberg is latest celebrity asked about reptilian conspiracy"




exactly what a lizard person would say

10/3/2017 1:04:41 PM

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Credible news now reporting he wired money out of the country prior to the shooting. So many questions.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/las-vegas-shooter-wired-100-000-philippines-last-week-n807141

10/3/2017 1:07:49 PM

NCSUGimp
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^^THIS. EXACTLY THIS.

[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 1:13 PM. Reason : ^^^AND THAT.]

10/3/2017 1:13:17 PM

JayMCnasty
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO92rCrP8hQ&feature=youtu.be


go to the 5 minute mark

Muzzle fire evident from a lower floor (edit) appears to be a strobe light and eyewitness reports confirm.

From a friends Facebook

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"My buddy got off the phone with one (ex military) this morning who said he both heard and saw rounds hitting his environment from very different angles"


[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 1:35 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 2:00 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2017 1:35:05 PM

eleusis
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pictures from the morning after don't show any broken glass at that level. It was probably a reflection or a disco ball or something.

10/3/2017 1:36:38 PM

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^ that's the first thought I had upon hearing this lower floor second shooter theory - where are all the broken windows?

Another question I had after seeing the picture of what purports to be the dead shooter - all that money spent on guns and preparation, but no vest or body armor of any kind?

10/3/2017 1:40:22 PM

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"From a friends Facebook"


VERY CREDIBLE

10/3/2017 1:40:55 PM

eleusis
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he probably had ran out of ammo, or thought he would run out of ammo before the cops got to him.

[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 1:54 PM. Reason : no need for body armor if you plan to shoot all your bullets before the cops come]

10/3/2017 1:53:27 PM

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^^ they always has the best #sources

^ the conspirators claim there were hundreds of rounds in his hotel room

10/3/2017 1:54:10 PM

JayMCnasty
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WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THEIR GENDER

10/3/2017 1:56:44 PM

0EPII1
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The White Privilege of the “Lone Wolf” Shooter
https://theintercept.com/2017/10/02/lone-wolf-white-privlege-las-vegas-stephen-paddock/

10/3/2017 1:59:30 PM

thegoodlife3
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^^?

[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 2:01 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2017 2:00:34 PM

GoldieO
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Another question I had - when Aldean runs off stage, the side video screens all seem to go dark and then spotlights hit the crowd. Why wouldn't the stage lights and video screens just stay on? Is this some type of auxiliary power system kicking in? Clearly an unintended consequence - but something an attorney could make an issue of when the lawsuits start, did the lighting make it easier for the shooter to see victims?

[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 2:19 PM. Reason : ...]

10/3/2017 2:18:43 PM

NCSUGimp
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Lizard People have excellent night vision and could have executed this with or without lights on the crowd.

10/3/2017 2:24:53 PM

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[Edited on October 3, 2017 at 2:37 PM. Reason : That honestly isn't even true, I'd pray for a lot of other motherfuckers first.]

10/3/2017 2:33:29 PM

NCSUGimp
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I'd pray for blow jobs. Not even good ones at this point. Just some sort of mouth to penis action. Ever since I got married my bj's/month have gone way down...WAY DOWN.

10/3/2017 2:49:00 PM

FroshKiller
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There are probably plenty of dudes who'd let you go down on them.

10/3/2017 3:14:44 PM

NCSUGimp
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god does work in mysterious ways...

10/3/2017 3:19:04 PM

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