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TreeTwista10
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you talking about Thompson hitting Green in the face or Green hitting Bron in the face?

6/1/2018 1:22:19 AM

HaLo
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No one’s getting suspended for game 2. Except maybe LeBron tells JR to GTFO

6/1/2018 1:26:46 AM

justinh524
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Let's get back to the important NBA stuff

http://awfulannouncing.com/nba/in-addition-to-tweeting-from-burner-accounts-bryan-colangelo-or-his-wife-seems-to-have-been-commenting-on-all-sorts-of-articles.html

LMAO fire this clown already

6/1/2018 2:00:46 AM

jbrick83
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I still can't believe they overturned that charge (or that it's even possible to review those types of calls). That was game over.

6/1/2018 7:53:42 AM

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https://www.sbnation.com/2018/5/31/17416184/lebron-james-charge-kevin-durant-overturned-block-foul-cavs-warriors-game-1-nba-finals

They got it right after review. LeBron is clearly still sliding over after Durant starts his shot. It was clearly a tough call as on the floor one official called it a charge and another called it a block, but the end result was correct.

6/1/2018 8:04:23 AM

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I can't decide what's going to happen in game 2.

Felt like almost everything (outside of the refs) went Cavs way last night. Insane game from Lebron (52 points on 32 shots), Klay injury scare, +15 rebound advantage, hung with GSW for the 3rd quarter, ect... but they still couldn't pull it off. On the other hand GSW almost look bored after wins.

The blueprint is there for the Cavs to pull this off. Warriors really miss Iggy. Plus no one outside of Lebron and Love (21/13 but 1/8 from 3) had a stellar game.

6/1/2018 9:15:43 AM

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Anticipating they get blown out. That is a devastating loss. You pull out Game 1, then Game 2 is a bit of house money and go home feeling good 1-1. Could see them coming out flat and just losing by 20+.

Just the fact it is competitive is amazing. That Cavs roster overall stinks. Wish it was a healthy Kyrie / Love / LeBron out there.

6/1/2018 9:53:02 AM

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Cavs have to win the close ones, because they are absolutely going to get blown out 2-3 times.

6/1/2018 10:10:22 AM

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Carolina fans be like "That's why Roy stopped recruiting JR Smith and he had to go pro. Not smart enough to be a tar heel." LOLOLOLOLOL

6/1/2018 10:35:38 AM

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"They got it right after review. LeBron is clearly still sliding over after Durant starts his shot. It was clearly a tough call as on the floor one official called it a charge and another called it a block, but the end result was correct.
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I still say it was ridiculous. It was an extremely close call. And they basically used the "restricted area" argument (which wasn't really that close) to go back and review a different part of the foul. It's like reviewing whether or not there was a catch in football...but while you're reviewing that, decide that there was actually pass interference on the call.

The officiating was a little off in that game (Lebron James clear strip of Durant earlier)....not saying that it was horribly officiated in favor of GS...but Cleveland definitely didn't get any calls last night, which seems a little odd considering how big of an underdog they are and that they have the best player ever on their team (who is suppose to get calls).

6/1/2018 1:18:18 PM

thegoodlife3
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in real time it was a charge

it’s absurd that they can change that call after reviewing it for one thing, watching a super slo-mo replay, and deciding to overturn the call over something they weren’t originally looking for

[Edited on June 1, 2018 at 1:45 PM. Reason : .]

6/1/2018 1:43:04 PM

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"they have the best player ever on their team (who is suppose to get calls)"


Wasn't his first foul called near the middle of the 4th quarter?

6/1/2018 1:43:40 PM

jbrick83
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"Wasn't his first foul called near the middle of the 4th quarter?
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You do know fouls are called for and against players, right?


I also see no mention of Lebron dominating Durant all over the court last night. A lot has changed since last year's finals where it looked like Durant was really closing the gap on the king. Durant should send JR a thank you card this morning.

6/1/2018 1:53:04 PM

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"in real time it was a charge"


No, it wasn't. That's why the ref closest to the play called it a block on the floor. And it's clearly written in the NBA rulebook that once a block/charge goes to replay they have to make sure the defender was both outside the restricted area and has established legal defensive position. James slid and leaned after Durant had started his shooting motion. It was a bang-bang play live, but the refs got it right in this instance. It's reasonable that they didn't know if LeBron was in the restricted area. Refs have to keep track of a lot of things at once and not knowing where an off the ball defender is exactly is understandable. Better to make sure with replay than to blow a huge call in the finals.
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I can't believe so many people are bitching about the refs getting a call right. The refs didn't make George Hill choke and they sure didn't make JR Smith go all classic JR Smith.

6/1/2018 2:33:57 PM

TreeTwista10
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I remember all those times that the refs changed foul calls on Jordan

Also, I like how everyone assumes that if JR Smith had called a timeout, or had passed it to Lebron or whatever, that the Cavs would've definitely scored.

[Edited on June 1, 2018 at 3:57 PM. Reason : .]

6/1/2018 3:34:12 PM

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It's complete garbage that they can go back and look at that one foul, but no other fouls throughout the game are reviewed. How about the bullshit foul of LeBron cleanly stripping the ball from Durant in the 4th? Or the next series when Durant stripped the ball from LeBron and got all hand/arm but didn't get a call? Both were blatantly incorrect calls that could've been fixed with review.

I heard a good comparison earlier, it would be like the NFL refs reviewing an incompleted pass out of bounds but during the replay they determine that pass interference happened. It's not right

6/1/2018 5:21:23 PM

justinh524
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Except that what they did is explicitly allowed by NBA rules (and is actually required when doing a block/charge replay), whereas that isn't allowed in the NFL.

6/1/2018 5:34:20 PM

TreeTwista10
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justin sounding like the guy who calls charges in pickup games, itt

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"James was not in the restricted area, but you can see his body moving while Durant goes up for his shot. Therefore, the officials changed the call."


So what if his body was moving? There is no rule that you have to be motionless to draw a charge.

[Edited on June 1, 2018 at 5:55 PM. Reason : .]

6/1/2018 5:52:17 PM

DROD900
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^^right, but LeBron was not even close to being in the restricted area, so it shouldn't have been reviewed to begin with.

I'm a Cavs fan so anything I say is biased, but it seems like the Cavs got jobbed in a game where they needed everything to go perfect to win

6/1/2018 6:02:53 PM

justinh524
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^^LeBron slid into Durant's path. That is not a legal guarding position.

^only people who jobbed the Cavs are JR Smith and George Hill.

6/1/2018 9:14:45 PM

DROD900
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They were absolutely at fault too, but just as important as the missed shots were the missed calls. Whatever, it's over, I'm happy the Cavs competed and didn't lose by 30.

6/1/2018 9:39:55 PM

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lol TT10 thinks a regular poster here plays pickup basketball. That's cute.

6/2/2018 12:24:06 AM

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"There is no rule that you have to be motionless to draw a charge."


Or you could link to the rule that says it's ok to actively move into the path of a player shooting the ball without being called for a blocking foul.

[Edited on June 2, 2018 at 12:34 AM. Reason : https://www.sbnation.com/2018/5/31/17416184/lebron-james-charge-kevin-durant-overturned-block-foul-c]

6/2/2018 12:32:13 AM

rwoody
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^^I play pickup ball at least once a week

6/2/2018 1:42:31 AM

TreeTwista10
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In case we missed that link earlier on the page when Justin posted it

[Edited on June 2, 2018 at 1:44 AM. Reason : ^^]

6/2/2018 1:43:22 AM

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So no link eh? Ok.

6/2/2018 11:17:16 AM

TreeTwista10
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I like how you found the need to cut into me arguing with the author of the link

Jeff Van Gundy explained it just fine on the broadcast during the game


[Edited on June 2, 2018 at 11:39 AM. Reason : maybe you were busy looking up gifs and missed the commentary]

6/2/2018 11:25:59 AM

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The commentary and the call were in disagreement.

6/2/2018 11:49:17 AM

TreeTwista10
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the refs themselves were in disagreement at the time

just wondering if you actually think a player has to be completely set with both feet in order to draw a charge

6/2/2018 11:53:28 AM

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Yes, I actually do think that, and apparently I'm not alone.

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"To be considered legal and to draw an offensive foul, a secondary defensive player must establish legal position prior to the offensive player starting his upward motion, and the defender must have both feet established completely outside the Restricted Area line. "

6/2/2018 1:12:43 PM

HaLo
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LOL, that quote doesn’t say what you think it does.

6/2/2018 1:21:09 PM

TreeTwista10
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ever heard of the verticality rule?

6/2/2018 1:25:10 PM

thegoodlife3
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hahahaha

6/2/2018 1:25:53 PM

HaLo
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“A player may continue to move after gaining a guarding position in the path of an opponent provided he is not moving directly or obliquely toward his opponent when contact occurs. A player is never permitted to move into the path of an opponent after the opponent has started his upward jumping motion.” -from NBA rules

6/2/2018 1:29:55 PM

HaLo
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No suspension

6/2/2018 1:31:42 PM

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He gained a legal guarding position? Apparently the refs didn't see it that way.

6/2/2018 1:42:22 PM

thegoodlife3
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plz, hilariously bold half of another rule again

6/2/2018 1:44:58 PM

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Or you could argue while I'm wrong.

[Edited on June 2, 2018 at 1:48 PM. Reason : And gif me that supposed legal guarding position LeBron obtained]

6/2/2018 1:47:14 PM

TreeTwista10
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^https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8-HDUBbtgQ

looking forward to game 2 tonight

6/3/2018 7:09:36 PM

thegoodlife3
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Lebron’s bloodshot eye makes me queasy

6/3/2018 8:43:07 PM

TreeTwista10
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all i know about Lebron's eye is he is a pussy for writhing around on the ground for 30 seconds after it allegedly happened

[Edited on June 3, 2018 at 9:10 PM. Reason : allegedly]

6/3/2018 9:09:28 PM

thegoodlife3
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he looked dead tired during the 2nd quarter, which means he’s probably going to come out and dominate the 3rd quarter

6/3/2018 9:20:20 PM

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"which means he’s probably going to come out and dominate the 3rd quarter"


Sounds like wishful thinking/continued unadulterated adulation

[Edited on June 3, 2018 at 9:45 PM. Reason : own it]

6/3/2018 9:44:57 PM

TreeTwista10
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you're not going to question another man's toughness tonight?

6/3/2018 9:51:42 PM

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What's the over/under on the number of games LeBron wins in this series?

[Edited on June 3, 2018 at 9:55 PM. Reason : I questioned a man's toughness?]

6/3/2018 9:53:34 PM

TreeTwista10
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1.5? dunno but that's my guess

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"no argument that it was dirty, but i question james writhing around for 30 seconds."


yes

[Edited on June 3, 2018 at 9:55 PM. Reason : .]

6/3/2018 9:55:27 PM

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It's more of an acting argument, not toughness.

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"1.5? dunno but that's my guess"


I assume you're taking the under...

6/3/2018 10:05:15 PM

TreeTwista10
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"It's more of an acting argument, not toughness."

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"own it"

6/3/2018 10:06:39 PM

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this is pretty good



[Edited on June 3, 2018 at 10:08 PM. Reason : ^ so you're contending he was in that much pain. ok. cool.]

6/3/2018 10:07:51 PM

TreeTwista10
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i'm not the one questioning his toughness

6/3/2018 10:13:14 PM

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