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https://www.boston.com/sports/nba/2018/03/02/ap-source-cavs-suspend-j-r-smith-for-throwing-soup-at-coach

haha

3/3/2018 2:17:55 AM

thegoodlife3
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Lebron

3/15/2018 10:43:59 PM

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^ ?

3/15/2018 11:00:04 PM

TreeTwista10
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k

[Edited on March 15, 2018 at 11:01 PM. Reason : i know you're watching college ball, but lemme drop this one word cryptic post]

3/15/2018 11:00:51 PM

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Prolly talking about this.

https://youtu.be/VIiXYizk9AE

Just watched it again. My god.

3/17/2018 9:16:48 PM

thegoodlife3
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http://twitter.com/Thisdayinsuck/status/975806315007266817m

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"3/19/2012- Joe Lacob is booed unmercifully when he inexplicably decides to speak last during the retirement ceremony of Chris Mullin's #17."


lol

3/19/2018 2:57:06 PM

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I'm kind of worried about the Ws right now. Scary all the health issues they're having. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they struggle since Quinn Cook is hot garbage.

3/19/2018 3:56:53 PM

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LMAO LeBron claims to have once gained 7 pounds during a game.

Man, shut up.

3/19/2018 6:23:19 PM

TreeTwista10
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do you think Lebron decided to bring up some Miami Heat era stuff, or should the writer of the article shut up?

3/19/2018 6:37:39 PM

justinh524
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I think everyone who spreads fake news should shut up.

3/19/2018 6:44:46 PM

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I could give two shits about gaining 7 lbs during a game (how does that even happen? did he eat at halftime and drink a shit-ton of water?).

But he is in absolutely ridiculous shape for being in his 15th season and logging so many minutes over the years (playoffs + national teams...not to mention he didn't play any bitch-ass 30-game college seasons). He's a fucking machine and playing like a man possessed. Keep this up for another couple years and he easily passes MJ as the GOAT.

3/19/2018 7:09:06 PM

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oh no doubt, he is in some sort of superhuman shape. probably one of the fittest individuals on the planet. that's why making shit up that's physically impossible is ridiculous.

3/19/2018 7:53:32 PM

TreeTwista10
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wonder if Lebron is somehow pulling the strings with Kawhi. Both of them suiting up for the Lakers next year??

3/22/2018 9:29:19 PM

thegoodlife3
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nah

3/22/2018 10:20:57 PM

UJustWait84
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Curry hurt again. Probably not going to happen this year. Ws are screwed with injuries.

3/24/2018 12:13:40 AM

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how long is he out?

3/24/2018 12:16:20 AM

UJustWait84
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IDK, but it's his left knee, not his ankle, so maybe it's not so bad. They're saying a strain, but he needs an MRI

Aside from him though, Klay has a broken thumb, KD has a fractured rib, and others have had injury issues as well.

3/24/2018 12:51:51 AM

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plus Kerr still has a swollen ego

3/24/2018 1:07:32 AM

UJustWait84
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sprained MCL

could be worse, but not great either.

3/24/2018 1:10:07 AM

TreeTwista10
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the Warriors are the only team that's banged up at the end of the season

3/24/2018 2:26:32 AM

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Kyrie out for the rest of the regular season AND the playoffs. Celtics started the season as such a great story, it's a damn shame they won't be able to play it out at its full potential

4/5/2018 1:00:06 PM

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Are all the Westbrook people from last season pushing for him to win the mvp again this year?

4/5/2018 3:56:24 PM

UJustWait84
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[no]

4/5/2018 3:58:04 PM

TreeTwista10
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last year and this year are apples and oranges, obviously

4/5/2018 4:03:32 PM

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Why would they?

Last year Westbrook averaged a triple double and led the league in scoring...with a garbage supporting cast.

Harden is now leading the league in scoring, took on one of the best point guards in the game and is still averaging 9 assists a game, is shooting better from the field and 3pt, and his team has the best record in the league.

Westbrook is still having a great year statistically...but the team is being held back by poor shooting from George and Anthony. The West playoffs could get crazy if those two could get their shit together.

And Lebron is showing that he's easily still the best player in the game...but when other players have great statistical (and team) years...then media/fans want to give it to someone else (see Jordan years).

4/5/2018 6:56:51 PM

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man this could have been the most exciting/competitive season ever were it not for all of the injuries. They need to fix this season, take back to backs out and limit it to 5 games in 2 weeks.

4/5/2018 7:28:49 PM

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Westbrook is still basically averaging a tripe double and w/ only 4 fewer pts/game and his team has basically the same record with, by your post, still not much help

Harden assists and rebounds are actually way down from last year and he is only averaging one more ppg. His percentages are basically the same.

Look i dont think Westbrook deserved it last year, but if you are an nba writer that voted for him over Harden, seems like you at least have to vote him a close 2nd, if not first again. However, he isnt even in the conversation.

4/5/2018 8:31:14 PM

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"still not much help"


Paul George is a role player ITT

4/5/2018 8:43:13 PM

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In jbricks words George is holding them back.

Harden added a great player too though not sure why you would punish one person and not the other.

4/5/2018 8:57:45 PM

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Not sure how Harden is being punished. It just seems pretty obvious that Westbrook's season last year seems more impressive than this year, since he was the only all-star level player on the team last year.

Also, Harden has his team in 1st place this year.

4/5/2018 9:02:03 PM

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Westbrook had a league leading PER of 30.6 last season. It's 25 this year. Likewise, Harden had a 27.4 PER last year and a league leading 30.2 this year.

Westbrook was also tops in the league in +/- and VORP last year. This year Harden is #1 in +/-, win shares and 2nd in VORP. Harden should be the unanimous MVP this season. No one else really has a case.

4/5/2018 9:06:24 PM

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Lol Westbrook is the one being punished. He's having pretty close to the same season but is nowhere near the mvp discussion.

Meanwhile, Harden is having a slightly worse season but is now the runaway. Harden was solo all star last year just like Westbrook.

I would have voted for Harden last year and this.


First place doesn't seem to matter much since Steph and Durant were way down the list last year. Harden, Kawhi, steph, Durant all had better records than Westbrook.

[Edited on April 5, 2018 at 9:11 PM. Reason : ^hardens win shares this year are identical to last year, also league leading, and his VORP is worse]

4/5/2018 9:09:27 PM

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I guess if you're just looking at stats it seems like he's having basically the same season. I thought it seemed pretty obvious why people aren't looking at it the same. He's not breaking a 50 year old record with no other all stars on his team this year, that's pretty much it.

If you wanted to say Harden should have been MVP last year, that's another argument.

[Edited on April 5, 2018 at 9:24 PM. Reason : .]

4/5/2018 9:23:37 PM

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Exactly, people voted for him only bc of the triple double, so this other stuff doesn't factor in. The fact that those people won't even give him 5th place this year bc he got 0.2 fewer rebounds per game show they shouldn't have vote for him at all.

I really just wanted to relitigate last year's mvp vote in light if this new evidence that's all.

4/5/2018 9:28:14 PM

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"they shouldn't have vote for him at all"


shows me that he spoiled them last year. last year, when he absolutely had an MVP caliber season.

4/5/2018 9:35:57 PM

rwoody
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I think he is the only player in like the last 30 years to win mvp without winning 50 games. Meanwhile 6 other players cleared that make, 3 cleared 60, all finished below.

If last season he had averaged same pts but 9.5 rebounds, do you think he would have won?

But if you say last year was mvp caliber then this season is surely "top 10 mvp voting caliber" right?

4/5/2018 9:42:02 PM

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yes, i think he is having a top-10 season this year

and no, because 10, 10, 9.5 just isn't as special. take off your analytic glasses for a moment.

4/5/2018 9:52:28 PM

rwoody
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Mvp award isn't designed to award neat round numbers.

4/5/2018 10:04:34 PM

TreeTwista10
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Why not? Who cares, it's the MVP award it's not the Larry O'Brien trophy. When Steve Nash was winning it over Kobe, it was obvious it was a joke. Why can't it be affected by round numbers, when those numbers are an impressive basketball accomplishment?

4/5/2018 10:09:03 PM

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Over Kobe when the Lakers finished 7th and Kobe finished 4th still in mvp voting while the Suns were 2nd and beat the Lakers first round

If you think Kobe deserved it over Nash either of those seasons, then I guess I get why you think 9.94 rebounds isn't mvp worthy but 9.95 is

[Edited on April 5, 2018 at 11:46 PM. Reason : LeBron or Dirk though, maybe so ]

4/5/2018 11:42:39 PM

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"take off your analytic glasses for a moment."

4/5/2018 11:58:09 PM

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any thoughts on the heat making a splash in the playoffs? decent young back court along with the twin towers adebayo & whiteside (assuming they stay healthy)

4/6/2018 1:05:25 AM

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Keeping digging rwoody.

^ Aren't they set up to play the Kyrie-less Celtics in the first round right now? Winning a first round series is a "splash"...but they aren't doing anything beyond that.

Watched Lebron and the Cavs erase a 17 point 4th quarter deficit with 6 minutes left against the Wiz last night. It was beautiful. They didn't even have a point guard last night (unless you count Jordan Clarkson).

4/6/2018 7:29:02 AM

rwoody
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^nah I played all my cards last night. I'll just bask in the joy of righteousness

^^^
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4/6/2018 8:55:48 AM

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Westbrook....1st in PER last year...won MVP.

Westbrook...10th in PER this year...generally in the 4-7 range in MVP talk this year.

If you really kept up with the NBA, watched games, listened to analysis and discussion throughout the year, this wouldn't be surprising to you. Its like you're reaching for talking points on a struggling sports radio broadcast. There are much better topics to discuss.

4/6/2018 9:49:45 AM

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Sounds like I rejuvenated that radio show bc I'm getting lots of callers

[Edited on April 6, 2018 at 10:02 AM. Reason : "your opinion is different so you're not a real fan!!" ]

4/6/2018 9:56:34 AM

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I’d have voted for Harden last year and for Lebron this year

4/6/2018 10:08:20 AM

jbrick83
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^^ You think Lamar Jackson drops 50 yard dimes...so it's not surprising that your sports evaluations are sub-par.

^ Last year was really close. When its that close, you give it to the guy who averages a triple double for the first time in a million years. Lebron is playing insane basketball right now. He was playing it earlier in the year as well...but he did kind of regress to his mean in the middle 1/3 of the year. I feel like if he didn't have that minor lull in his play, it might be a coin flip between him and Harden.

I do feel like Harden is a shoe-in because everything thinks he could/should have won it the past couple years. But that's how MVPs work sometimes.

[Edited on April 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM. Reason : .]

4/6/2018 10:13:28 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84xLtHJbjoQ

[Edited on April 6, 2018 at 10:27 AM. Reason : (not an nba clip, for jbricks eyes only ]

4/6/2018 10:26:39 AM

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I’m firmly in the Bill Simmons camp when it comes to triple doubles

4/6/2018 10:32:15 AM

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