the solution is to pray for more good guys with guns. oh, and also arming fetuses with guns.

11/7/2017 4:19:12 PM

rawr! rawwr! MURRICA! FREEDOM! GOVEREMENT OPPRESSION! GUNS! RAWR! RAWR!

11/7/2017 4:38:26 PM

God let this happen because he loves us enough to give us free will. Also, he was ready to bring more angels to heaven.

11/7/2017 9:07:33 PM

So any conspiracy theories about multiple shooters, false-flag, decoys, etc?

I suppose this counts as one... but she is a victim herself:

https://www.facebook.com/stfnews/videos/1589706051106499

11/7/2017 10:10:41 PM

The shooter escaped from a mental health facility in 2012.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/us/texas-shooting-church.html

The report filed by the El Paso officers says that the person who reported Mr. Kelley missing from the hospital advised them that he “suffered from mental disorders,” and that he “was attempting to carry out death threats” against “his military chain of command.” The man “was a danger to himself and others as he had already been caught sneaking firearms onto Holloman Air Force Base,” it added.



[Edited on November 7, 2017 at 10:41 PM. Reason : a]

11/7/2017 10:39:44 PM

apparently we have more laws than we can enforce already if we cant get cant even get people that should be in the no buy database entered in there

11/8/2017 6:50:13 AM

no, it means we need laws requiring information to be entered and we need to amend the domestic violence law to include equivalent UCMJ charges

11/8/2017 8:28:55 AM

NICS being broken is a feature, rather than a bug, to a lot of the nuts. Any effort to improve it will be crushed under "OMG GUN REGISTRY" hysteria. That's assuming congress makes an effort at all.

11/8/2017 9:38:50 AM

the riverrat dude here even thinks requiring you to keep a record of your private sale is a registry, they are morons

11/8/2017 9:59:06 AM

Look, once we get our mess straightened out with reporting to NICS, I'm ok if we even restrict misdemeanors.

11/8/2017 10:44:18 AM

This was only the second mass-shooting since Las Vegas (the other being NY), so maybe if they were more frequent, there would be enough political will and momentum to do something.

There have been over 30 mass-shootings since Las Vegas, but no policy change.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1705968929425890&id=174742062548592

[Edited on November 9, 2017 at 3:46 AM. Reason : Over 30 you apathetic people]

11/9/2017 3:44:57 AM

We gotta do better at enforcing the law and making sure felons and crazy people can't buy guns, but I really don't think more gun laws are the fix to this problem. What gun laws specifically do most of you think will help with this problem? I'm definitely on board with closing the gun show loophole, but aside from that I don't know of anything else that would help. I couldn't possibly like a President less than Trump, but I think he's right about mental health being a big part of this.
I just don't think guns the underlying problem with mass shootings. I think we could curb gun violence in other ways, such as domestic situations and gang shootings, with better gun laws and enforcement, but I can't get on board with more gun laws being the answer to mass shootings. I've got no skin in the game as I've never owned a gun, and went to a gun range once and hated it. Seems like on one side you've got too much lobbying power and clout to allow even the smallest amount of any kind of reform, and on the other side you've got a bunch of people who aren't into guns and want to demonize them as a way to poke the other side in the ribs. For the most part when I see people on FB and sites like this fighting about it, it seems like they are just more interested in proving their side is right than actually saving people's lives. If you were that passionate about saving people's lives, there's other areas you could focus that energy and do a lot more good. I've got a friend who constantly talks about eradicating guns, but he's had 3 dui's. I don't think he gets the irony in that, but drunk driving is not a not button partisan political topic that you can win facebook fights with.
Close the gun show loophole and outlaw specific types of guns are really the only 2 specific gun laws I hear about. Most of what I'm hearing is "better gun control", granted it's not a topic I've done much research on so I'm sure there are other popular suggestions I'm not aware of.
The most logical thing I've heard as far as the underlying issue causing these mass shootings was from Sebastian Junger. Depression and alienation, and the need to be heard. Mass shootings are a form of suicide. They are a way to commit suicide and have everybody in the world finally hear you. That's in the case of mass shootings like this one, not the ones where there is an ideological motivation.

11/9/2017 12:54:10 PM

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11/9/2017 1:02:24 PM

why did you just copy and paste their post?

11/9/2017 4:01:53 PM

bttt

11/14/2017 1:57:40 PM

Oh no why?

Whenever I see this thread back at the top I'm going to assume the worse until otherwise stated

11/14/2017 1:59:17 PM

Still no security footage, still no explanation for why the death toll changed

11/14/2017 2:46:24 PM

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-norcal-elementary-school-shooting-20171114-story.html

Quote :

"At least five people are dead following shootings at multiple locations in Tehama County, including an elementary school where at least two children were wounded. Authorities described a chaotic scene in which a gunman appeared to pick targets at random in the rural Northern California county. They said the shootings appear to have begun as “domestic violence incident” but did not provide details. The gunman was fatally shot by sheriff’s deputies. His name has not been released. The Tehama County Sheriff’s Department said they were dealing with at least five separate crime scenes and were trying to assess the number of casualties. Authorities said the shooting occurred around 8 a.m. in Rancho Tehama, near Red Bluff, about 120 miles northwest of Sacramento. “We have about 100 law enforcement personnel in Rancho Tehama right now, with multiple, multiple scenes,” Johnston said. “I know that we have [airlifted] a number of students,” he told reporters. “I know that we have children that were attending school in a safe location at this time.” Officials said the Rancho Tehama area remains on lockdown. Nearby residents and business owners said they heard at least 100 gunshots. “I thought this only happens to places like L.A. or New York,” said Jose Garcia, owner of La Fortune Convenience, told the Los Angeles Times. Coy Ferreira, a parent at the school, told KRCR-TV that he heard a series of gunshots through a classroom window and saw one young boy shot in the foot and chest and a second student shot in the arm. Both were alert and conscious, he said. The owner of a nearby cafe, Coffee Addiction, told The Times that she called 911 after hearing gunfire and screaming at the elementary school. The woman, who identified herself only as Tiffany, said she heard about 100 rounds fired from what sounded like multiple guns. The business owner said she and her husband and their four children moved to the area from Redding about seven years ago. She said that they have always felt safe. “It’s a great community,” she said. “I am hoping it doesn’t get some kind of bad rap because of one person in one area.” Rancho Tehama has a population of about 1,485, according to a census estimate. The school and surrounding community were on lockdown. “We have had an active shooter incident at Rancho Tehama Elementary this morning,” read a statement from the Corning Union Elementary School District website. “There are confirmed injuries. We are cooperating with law enforcement during this investigation but do not have specific details at this time.” "

[Edited on November 14, 2017 at 3:50 PM. Reason : .]

11/14/2017 3:31:00 PM

another domestic abuser. neat.

11/14/2017 4:05:36 PM

alright folks, place your bets!

race:
religion:
political affiliation:
mental illness (yes/no):
lone wolf (yes/no):

11/14/2017 4:51:49 PM

I'll take Cnl. Mustard, with the Mini14, in a shooting spree across a rural town.

11/14/2017 8:09:14 PM

mental health



/thread

11/14/2017 9:52:25 PM

Crazy kids these days...

1/23/2018 9:09:49 PM

I blame it on Tide Pods.

[Edited on January 23, 2018 at 9:47 PM. Reason : Bbb]

1/23/2018 9:47:04 PM

Thoughts and prayers.

1/23/2018 10:01:23 PM

ditto

1/23/2018 10:10:13 PM

we should ban cars so the crazy people cant drive to the schools

1/24/2018 6:08:34 AM

^ Hot Take

1/24/2018 7:51:45 AM

Maybe it's just the media I consume, but it seems like we are coasting down a hill of people giving less and less of a damn about teenagers being gunned down while in class. We live in a very sick culture.

1/25/2018 9:25:04 AM

Less media coverage of shootings is a positive thing

1/25/2018 9:27:55 AM

I'm not sure that's true. Obviously coverage that dwells on the killer can be bad, but I talked to people this morning at work that weren't even aware ANOTHER shooting happened. Zero coverage just puts people back to sleep IMO.

1/25/2018 9:34:53 AM

hysteria hasn't created any changes so far, why is it needed?

1/25/2018 11:58:56 AM

I'm sure there's something between apathy and hysteria.

1/25/2018 12:31:30 PM

I agree, hysteria isn't effective, but neither is willfully ignoring, being genuinely unaware, or just not giving a damn.

[Edited on January 25, 2018 at 12:33 PM. Reason : ^exactly]

1/25/2018 12:32:51 PM

HAPPY VALENTINES DAY!

2/14/2018 4:00:23 PM

Oh we back!

school shooting...he white.

[Edited on February 14, 2018 at 4:01 PM. Reason : ]

2/14/2018 4:01:15 PM

It's Florida, definitely a cuban

[Edited on February 14, 2018 at 4:05 PM. Reason : .]

2/14/2018 4:04:56 PM

rawr rawr....build the wall!

[Edited on February 14, 2018 at 5:05 PM. Reason : wall off the florida beaches!]

2/14/2018 5:04:57 PM

The media still can't handle themselves. They are calling this the "10th deadliest shooting in US history"

2/14/2018 8:00:59 PM

I'm a staunch defender of the 2nd amendment.

But damn, they need to do something. Sure, limiting magazine capacity or banning "assault rifles" won't prevent much, but not doing anything now just looks reckless.
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2/14/2018 8:03:45 PM

Don't worry man, we're gonna put the flags at half-staff. That'll show em!

2/14/2018 10:23:26 PM

Are the thoughts and prayers over? I need to know so I can start anticipating the next mass shooting.

GUIZE pls, I have a match tonite.

2/15/2018 12:14:38 AM

Quote :

"I'm a staunch defender of the 2nd amendment."

but why, tho?

2/15/2018 1:21:00 AM

Because at the end of the day, I'd like to be able to defend my home against the likes of this guy.

Let's take this to TSB.

2/15/2018 7:24:27 AM

I hope by now you realize protecting the 2nd amendment and believibg everyone can own which ever gun they want are not mutually exclusive.

2/15/2018 9:17:36 AM

prayers....I will reserve thoughts for later, after all the facts have been gathered

[Edited on February 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM. Reason : ]

2/15/2018 9:23:16 AM

So crazy how the media gets their collective D's so hard over these things. Shutting off the Olympics for hours with nonstop coverage. Interviewing students that are literally trembling with fear still trying to figure out if their friends are dead or alive. Media needs to be held accountable with the way they handle these events. It's fucking sickening.

2/15/2018 9:35:35 AM

Yeah, it's the media that's sickening in cases like this. Way to shoot straight to the heart of the issue.

2/15/2018 10:07:28 AM

it's part of why it keeps happening

2/15/2018 10:17:58 AM

yeah, unfortunately it definitely exacerbates the issue. this guy aspired to be a famous school shooter.

2/15/2018 10:22:01 AM