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PinkandBlack
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THE INTERNET IS THE NEW MAIL AND PHONES.

YOU DO NOT NEED "SPECIAL FORCED EQUAL ACCESS" TO INTERNET

YOU HAVE ALL THE ACCESS TO THE POST OFFICE THAT YOU NEED ALREADY SO YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID

12/1/2017 3:30:11 PM

A Tanzarian
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I don't even know what special forced equal access is.

12/1/2017 3:52:57 PM

Cherokee
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"YOU HAVE ALL THE ACCESS TO THE POST OFFICE THAT YOU NEED"


I think it pivots on that somehow. Like if you want to mail a box of bricks, you have to pay more than mailing a letter. Except that data is limitless and all equivalent so it's bullshit to charge more if an end user is accessing Netflix versus IRC.

[Edited on December 1, 2017 at 3:55 PM. Reason : a]

12/1/2017 3:54:34 PM

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net neutrality just another government power grab

12/1/2017 5:29:31 PM

dtownral
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^ here's one who i can't tell if serious or dumb

12/1/2017 5:31:19 PM

PinkandBlack
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WHY DOES GOVERNMENT OWE YOU INTERNET?

IF YOU HAVE TO COMMUNICATE YOU HAVE ALL THE WAYS TO DO IT YOU NEED BUT YOU NEVER EVEN WRITE TO YOUR FAMILY OR MAKE A PHONE CALL.

SO WHY DO YOU NEED INTERNET, WHICH IS FOR "ENTERTAINMENT."

DOES GOVERNMENT OWE YOU MOVIES?

12/1/2017 6:05:28 PM

Cherokee
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Ah, a troll. "Internet is for entertainment."

Well I'm done with this one.

12/1/2017 6:23:32 PM

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12/1/2017 6:30:36 PM

PinkandBlack
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ILL BET NO ONE IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS EVER TAUGHT YOU THAT BACK WHEN I WAS HELPING WORK ON IT FOR DOD IT WAS CALLED THE ENTERNET. ENTERTAINMENT NETWORK. FOR BROADCASTING AMERICAN ENTERTAINMENT INTO COMMUNIST COUNTRIES.

AND NOW YOU USE IT TO WATCH BARNY SANDERS.

12/1/2017 6:50:07 PM

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"net neutrality just another government power grab"


it's not a power grab when every person with a functioning brain realizes that net neutrality is crucial and demands it.

[Edited on December 12, 2017 at 6:54 PM. Reason : .]

12/12/2017 6:53:53 PM

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Life is a negotiation, and ISPs are self interested. As such, if it is so important to you, demand it from your ISP. They'll be happy to give it to you in exchange for some money.

12/13/2017 7:41:00 AM

wdprice3
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Yes, let's always cater to the haves. Fuck the have nots.

12/13/2017 8:50:14 AM

dtownral
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the 50 million+ people with 1 ISP option should just take their money to a competitor!

12/13/2017 9:16:17 AM

Cherokee
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or do it themselves right? that's the standard GOP mantra, do things for yourself


https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/09/muni-isp-forced-to-shut-off-fiber-to-the-home-internet-after-court-ruling/

https://www.thenation.com/article/chattanooga-was-a-typical-post-industrial-city-then-it-began-offering-municipal-broadband/

http://fortune.com/2016/08/10/municipal-internet/

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"An appeals court on Wednesday sided with the telecom industry, and with North Carolina and Tennessee, in a major decision that upheld the ability of states to pass laws that restrict municipalities from offering broadband internet services.

The focus of the decision was a high-speed fiber network operated by the city of Chattanooga, and a similar project in Wilson, North Carolina, in which the towns had supplied fast broadband to nearby homes and businesses. The projects violated laws in each states that banned or restricted towns from selling internet services outside their borders.

The court’s decision to side with the states comes as a major defeat for the Federal Communications Commission, which claims it has the power to preempt such laws, and for consumer groups who argue municipal internet services are provide consumers with cheaper and faster internet."


[Edited on December 13, 2017 at 9:18 AM. Reason : a]

12/13/2017 9:17:59 AM

dtownral
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if you pull your bootstraps hard enough they turn into high speed fiber

12/13/2017 9:28:45 AM

LoneSnark
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"or do it themselves right? that's the standard GOP mantra, do things for yourself"

Right, and there is something to that. The OIO did nothing to encourage more competition. As such, if you literally only have one provider, there is nothing to stop that provider from demanding whatever it wants of you. $1k a month? done. 10MB data caps? done. The OIO had nothing to say about such an offer. What it did do was increase the burden of setting up an ISP. As such, if you and your neighbors got fed up paying $1k a month for 10MB and wanted to pool your money to start your own wireless ISP, the OIO actually had several elements that could stop you from doing so, first and foremost being the various reporting and compliance requirements which would drive up the costs from "we'll use customer-volunteers for free!" to "well, now we need a telecom lawyer on staff just to fill out paperwork. Lord help us if the monopoly ISP chooses to sue us under title 2 for unfair competition in our use of volunteer labor."

12/14/2017 7:38:07 AM

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You can't be capitalist and net neutral. So many Americans realizing they are socialists today like realizing Bruce willis is dead in 6th sense.

12/14/2017 11:39:04 PM

Cherokee
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it isn't socialist to want regulation

12/15/2017 10:49:29 AM

tulsigabbard
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Government regulating the allocation of a resource is kinda the definition.

12/19/2017 7:18:48 PM

dtownral
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earl'd

12/19/2017 9:57:32 PM

Cherokee
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12/19/2017 10:22:29 PM

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"YOU HAVE ALL THE ACCESS TO THE POST OFFICE THAT YOU NEED ALREADY SO YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID"


Good point. Let's catch up with the rest of the world and allow gov'ts to set up ISPs.

12/20/2017 8:55:24 AM

PinkandBlack
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Have you thought of actually paying for what you want instead of stealing? I would see this as your punishment for stealing movies for so many years. You gotta pay up for all those movies you stole.

Blame yourself and not Ajit Pai who worked hard for this and payed his dues.

This article is about the FCC Commissioner. For the cricketer, see Ajit Pai (cricketer).
Ajit Varadaraj Pai (/?'d?i?t 'pa?/;[1] born January 10, 1973) is an American attorney who serves as the Chairman of the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC). He is the first Indian American to hold the office. He has served in various positions at the FCC since being appointed to the commission by President Barack Obama in May 2012, at the recommendation of Mitch McConnell. He was confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on May 7, 2012,[2] and was sworn in on May 14, 2012, for a five-year term.[3]

Ajit Pai
Ajit V. Pai headshot.jpg
Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission
Incumbent
Assumed office
January 23, 2017
President Donald Trump
Preceded by Tom Wheeler
Member of the Federal Communications Commission
Incumbent
Assumed office
May 14, 2012
President Barack Obama
Donald Trump
Preceded by Meredith Attwell Baker
Personal details
Born Ajit Varadaraj Pai
January 10, 1973 (age 44)
Buffalo, New York, U.S.
Political party Republican
Spouse(s) Janine Van Lancker (m. 2010)
Children 2
Education Harvard University (BA)
University of Chicago (JD)
In January 2017, President Donald Trump designated Pai as FCC Chairman.[4][5] In March 2017, Trump announced that he would renominate Pai to serve another five-year term (remaining Chairman of the FCC).[6] Pai was confirmed by the U.S. Senate for an additional five-year term on October 2, 2017.[7] Before his appointment to the FCC, Pai held positions with the Department of Justice, the United States Senate, the FCC's Office of General Counsel, and Verizon Communications. Pai is a proponent of repealing net neutrality in the United States and, on December 14, 2017, voted with the majority of the FCC to reverse the decision to regulate the internet under Title II of the Communications Act of 1934.

Early life and education

Career

Following law school, Pai clerked for Martin Leach-Cross Feldman of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana.[2] After moving to Washington, D.C., in 1998, Pai worked for the United States Department of Justice’s Antitrust Division as an Honors Program trial attorney on the Telecommunications Task Force. There, he worked on proposed mergers and acquisitions and on novel requests for regulatory relief following the enactment of the Telecommunications Act of 1996.

Pai left his Department of Justice post in February 2001 to serve as Associate General Counsel at Verizon Communications Inc., where he handled competition matters, regulatory issues, and counseling of business units on broadband initiatives.[2]

Pai left Verizon in April 2003 and was hired as Deputy Chief Counsel to the United States Senate Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on Administrative Oversight and the Courts. He returned to the Department of Justice to serve as Senior Counsel in the Office of Legal Policy in May 2004. He held that position until February 2005, when he was hired as Chief Counsel to the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Property Rights.

Between 2007 and 2011, Pai held several positions in the FCC's Office of General Counsel, serving most prominently as Deputy General Counsel. In this role, he had supervisory responsibility over several dozen lawyers in the Administrative Law Division and worked on a wide variety of regulatory and transactional matters involving the wireless, wireline, cable, Internet, media, and satellite industries.[2] In 2010, Pai was one of 55 individuals nationwide chosen for the 2011 Marshall Memorial Fellowship, a leadership development initiative of the German Marshall Fund of the United States.[2] Pai returned to the private sector in April 2011, working in the Washington, D.C., office of law firm Jenner & Block where he was a partner in the Communications Practice.

In 2011, Pai was then nominated for a Republican Party position on the Federal Communications Commission by President Barack Obama at the recommendation of Minority leader Mitch McConnell. He was confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on May 7, 2012, and was sworn in on May 14, 2012, for a term that concluded on June 30, 2016.[2] Then Pai was designated chairman of the FCC by President Donald Trump in January 2017 for a five-year term.[18] He was confirmed by the U.S. Senate for the additional five-year term on October 2, 2017.[7]

how much of this have you done?

12/22/2017 3:52:38 PM

mrfrog

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But does Pai know how to use a quote block?

12/22/2017 4:01:41 PM

PinkandBlack
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True or false: you were stealing movies.

12/24/2017 10:19:41 AM

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