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raiden
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I saw Joker on Friday. Wow! Joaquin Phoenix absolutely killed it. He definitely brought his A-game to this one, his performance was nothing short of awesome. I think he absolutely will get an Oscar nod for this and I wouldn't be surprised if he won.

10/27/2019 10:48:05 AM

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"his appearance on the talk show was weird. I was behind the motivation of him going to kill himself. But was surprised when all the sudden he got the confidence/anger to go on his rant."


For me, this is what tied this initially kinda boring movie to the Joker as we have known him in the past.

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"Did he get inspired by seeing all the people dressed up like him?"


I think yes. The events on the subway were pretty formative.

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"I was confused when the woman was into him, and liked the twist that he was living in his own head."


Same. One of the things I liked about this movie was it was hard to tell what was in his head and what was real. I initially thought the Murray phone call was the former.

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"Joker isn't an antihero. You can't root for him"


Personally, I don't need a protagonist. But that is a common complaint to be sure. I loved American Psycho, but there is nobody to root for there either.

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"socially clueless and deranged he's also plain dumb"


Yes, yes, and no.

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"the entire theme is basically we fail to understand and treat mental illness."


It's a comic book movie.

11/2/2019 1:50:20 AM

StTexan
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I saw this a few days ago. Not nearly as violent as I expected. Also, not nearly as good as I expected.

11/2/2019 1:58:03 AM

Geppetto
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I don't view this as a comic book movie. I view it as a movie that has a characters whose origins in comics.

The film was good. Joaquin was amazing and the mood that the film was about to build and carry was great.

I can imagine if someone went to this film expecting a comic book movie or an action based film, then you'd be let down and the film would have failed to deliver in several areas.

1/17/2020 3:35:14 PM

moron
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I would have liked it more if I knew going in it was a dramatic character study of a crazy person rather than thinking it was a comic book movie somehow.

It was good for what it was though.

I agree with whoever said he came off as plain dumb. But I think this was a crucial element of the story. Movements can form around people without really being derived from the characteristics of that person.

1/17/2020 6:15:53 PM

rjrumfel
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I didn't view Arthur as a dumb individual, rather, I felt that he was (outside of his mental illness) just average and ordinary.

1/17/2020 8:50:20 PM

rwoody
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"Though, I would have much preferred for Arthur to actually be his son"


I think synapse mentioned not knowing what's real, but he had that picture of his mom with the inscription by Wayne. I think that was meant to throw the tiniest doubt on the adoption story? Or just that he did have sex with her and dump her but didn't get her pregnant?

3/21/2020 10:41:27 PM

titans78
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Rented it twice and couldn't get through it. Just found it boring, and I wasn't expecting a comic book movie or some crazy action. Generally I like these types of movies but it for some reason just couldn't hold my attention.

3/22/2020 9:14:42 AM

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