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rwoody
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Holy crap, might top Get Out

https://twitter.com/JordanPeele/status/1077564905258020864?s=19

12/25/2018 12:50:32 PM

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Get out was all hype.

12/25/2018 4:07:30 PM

thegoodlife3
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nah

[Edited on December 25, 2018 at 7:34 PM. Reason : Get Out was pretty great]

12/25/2018 7:33:51 PM

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Get Out was great.

This looks amazing. so many questions.

12/26/2018 8:34:41 AM

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never heard of it. looks interesting

12/27/2018 12:05:33 PM

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solid, but nowhere near as good as Get Out

3/22/2019 5:27:53 PM

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^agreed.

It was enjoyable, but not fantastic. Very funny, and weird as hell.

3/22/2019 6:40:12 PM

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I enjoyed it, and it was a good/suspenseful horror movie, and I appreciate its originality. The one thing that really stopped it from being great though was the logistics behind the whole operation. I won’t say any more until more people have seen it, but certain things just don’t add up.

Also, I did enjoy all of the foreshadowing, symbolism, and nods to other horror movies.

3/23/2019 12:16:01 PM

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the opening to this Ringer review nailed it:

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"There is a passage in Stephen King’s Misery in which the protagonist, a best-selling novelist who is to some extent a double for King himself, explains the difference between Getting an Idea and Trying to Have an Idea.

I thought about these distinctions while watching Jordan Peele’s new thriller Us, which feels very much like the work of a filmmaker Trying to Have an Idea, or, more specifically, trying to have an idea as good as his last one."


https://www.theringer.com/movies/2019/3/22/18277051/us-jordan-peele-review-get-out

3/23/2019 1:22:29 PM

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Yeah, I read the synopsis.. The twist that one is the other seemed pretty obvious. But like do they clone families together, because then you'd have to make sure your "Husband" and "wife" and "kids" all were working together.. Idk. One day I'll see the movie

3/23/2019 1:50:34 PM

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Do you think Peele was trying to hard to match get out?

3/23/2019 5:35:10 PM

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The twist was cool if you don't look too close, but it didn't really make sense upon serious inspection. Part of me thinks it was totally unnecessary.

3/25/2019 11:47:32 AM

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It makes just as much sense as everything else that happens in the movie. It was also fairly telegraphed/predictable, I definitely guessed it early on.

3/25/2019 11:59:49 AM

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"But like do they clone families together, because then you'd have to make sure your "Husband" and "wife" and "kids" all were working together.. Idk."


Yeah that's kind of what I was getting at in terms of taking it from relatable to over the top when you think about it.

So we are led to believe that there is a clone for every single person in the USA just hidden in underground tunnels? How do they get to be as strong/athletic as they are by just eating raw rabbit for every meal? Are they always kept under the city that their twin currently lives in? If so, does that mean that every time someone moves, the government moves the clone? When people get married in real life and have kids, do they find the two clones and make them live together?

Who is paying to keep the power on in those tunnels after the government abandoned the project? Who is feeding/watering the rabbits and cleaning up their shit? What about plumbing for all those people, they still need water? They were down there for all that time, and the mother's clone was the only one of them that ever wandered onto the surface? When the government abandoned it, why would they just leave and forget about it? Where did hundreds of thousands of clones all get matching jumpsuits, gloves, and scissors?

3/25/2019 4:35:07 PM

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Am I supposed to believe that this guy has knives on his fingers and can enter peoples dreams???

3/26/2019 7:17:10 AM

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^By that logic, why didn't the clones just assemble a cell phone from rabbit fur, then call Freddy Kruger and have him kill the family for them? I mean, it is a horror movie right, so anything can happen

3/26/2019 8:35:12 AM

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I wish that machines had become sentient and started killing everyone, clones and normies alike. Nothing beats getting your skull caved in by a soda can shot out of an evil vending machine.

3/26/2019 11:25:39 AM

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"It makes just as much sense as everything else that happens in the movie. It was also fairly telegraphed/predictable, I definitely guessed it early on."


No, I don't think it does.

The main reason I think the twist doesn't make sense - and I'd love to be talked out of this - is the final conversation between Adelaide and Red, and previously, the conversation in the family room. Red is the one revealing all of this backstory about the tunnels and Tethered folk, slowly explaining to the viewer what's really going on.

So, after all of that, we're supposed to accept that the person with all this intimate knowledge about the Tethered world was actually the real Adelaide all along? This would only make sense if Adelaide and Red were coordinating, but that makes even less sense, really.

3/26/2019 7:39:12 PM

Money_Jones
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shes spent some 20 years down there, of course she has intimate knowledge of it

3/26/2019 7:50:20 PM

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hahaha

3/26/2019 9:16:53 PM

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"So, after all of that, we're supposed to accept that the person with all this intimate knowledge about the Tethered world was actually the real Adelaide all along? This would only make sense if Adelaide and Red were coordinating, but that makes even less sense, really."


I'd say she was about 8 years old or so when she switched places with the clone. Definitely old enough to read. I guess it isn't too farfetched that she could have stumbled into some kind of archive room or something down there that had notes on the project? We also don't know the full extent to how well the clones are "connected" to their real life counterparts. She was kind of a special case due to the dancing stuff, perhaps she also had some kind of subconscious mental connection too?

3/27/2019 9:21:41 AM

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Sure, I can buy some of that.

The twist still felt lazy when I was watching it, right or wrong. That was my first impression. My main issue is the explanation of the Tethered in the family room. Why is Red the one doing the explaining here? The most important thing you could possibly say in that conversation is, "remember that time when we switched in the house of mirrors"? Adelaide may have suppressed the memory (questionable), but Red certainly didn't. Why would she withhold key information at that time?

I still liked the movie, but the twist here would have landed better (and had greater impact) with a few small changes to the movie.

Also, yes, I completely understand the underlying social commentary and how a twist like this was important to solidify the point being made. That doesn't really change anything for me.

[Edited on March 27, 2019 at 5:12 PM. Reason : ]

3/27/2019 5:10:15 PM

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Man I've heard plenty of "suspension of disbelief" issues with horror and fantasy movies, but this is the first time I've ever heard "who cleans up the rabbit shit" as a plot hole.

Anyway, just watched it, I enjoyed it and was captivated. But I also agree if we're comparing to Get Out it falls short. Taking the last 10 minutes to kinda just interrupt the plot with an explainer took the wind out of sails a bit. I thought the rest was great and the acting was phenomenal.

Also as to the Red/Adelaide stuff, I saw somewhere that she prefaced her explainer with "I believe...", so it could just be her make believe from 20 years in a world with no communication. Also of course Red could not remember, she is severely traumatized. She is LESS likely to remember then Adelaide IMO.

3/30/2019 11:31:54 PM

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I bet all you people who shit on the plot holes in this movie worship the plot home riddled Matrix as an all time great movie.

3/31/2019 12:25:20 AM

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"this is the first time I've ever heard "who cleans up the rabbit shit" as a plot hole."


Although it applies in a literal sense too, I meant that more in a "Who is providing the only source of food that these people have?" Yes, rabbits reproduce at a fast pace but they also need to be cared for, especially on that large a scale to support millions of people living underground. That means the rabbits need food and water, and yes, their shit and piss needs to be cleaned up or disease and sickness would be rampant.

4/1/2019 9:25:23 AM

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Maybe this movie is a statement on gun control. I mean if any of the non-tethered had a gun, a lot less people would have died.

4/8/2019 4:52:20 PM

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I didn't dig into plot holes while watching. I just thought the whole twist/idea was stupid.

Wasn't a fan. But everyone else I went to see it with enjoyed it.

4/9/2019 9:53:25 AM

justinh524
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I laughed during this movie more than I expected to.

4/9/2019 1:08:53 PM

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--Spoilers




Thought it was pretty eh. The twist was pretty good I didn't really see it coming mostly because I didn't think the girl who was swapped would act at all the way she acted.

So a few things I guess(and feel free to answer or correct if I missed something)

1 - Why didn't the girl who was swapped once she woke up and got unchained just leave? Seems she would have had the ability to talk and if someone was keeping her there explain? Would be pretty obvious she wasn't one of the underground people.

2 - Once swapped did she just loose all her ability to talk while being in the underground?

3 - Why did she wait so long to leave? Why not just leave and go start a new life?

4 - For the escaped "clone" aren't we happy for her? I guess messed up she swapped lives with that girl but that aside it is her kids, her family. The boy looked at her at the end like he "knew" but I feel like the swap would have worked better if it was done after she had her kids and family.

5 - Why did the swapped girl go through all the effort of doing hands across America? Was she like the Neo of the underground people leading them?

People have mentioned the "social commentary" of the film. What was that? Why did she respond when asked who they were she said, "Americans." Is that suppose to mean we are soulless and vapid?

4/18/2019 9:12:34 PM

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I can't answer all of your questions because some are just straight up plot holes, but she couldn't talk anymore because her clone crushed her larynx in the house of mirrors when she was strangling her. That's why her speech (when she was talking to them in the house) was so "breathy". She could make word like sounds through breathing, but not through traditional speaking. She was the only one "smart" enough to really lead/organize the tethered, so that is why she became their leader.

For the social commentary, there are lots of layers to it, but I think it was mostly meant to emphasize class disparity of rich vs. poor. There is more symbolism there too, like every time the main family killed one of the tethered, it was with some form of symbol of wealth. The dad used a boat to kill his clone, the daughter used a golf club on the twins, the mother used the luxury car on the daughter's clone, etc.

4/19/2019 10:42:24 AM

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