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moron
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^^^
She said this:
"I believe that the president has learned from this case," she said. "The president has been impeached. That's a pretty big lesson. I believe that he will be much more cautious in the future."

Hard to believe these people are so naive and they can't see what Trump's doing to government

2/5/2020 1:13:21 PM

Bullet
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"nah

they know exactly why they’re doing what they’re doing"

2/5/2020 1:14:51 PM

NyM410
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Good on Romney.

Of course this will be offset when Manchin votes to acquit in two hours.

2/5/2020 2:08:47 PM

moron
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Came out today that Bolton refused to submit a sworn affidavit for the senate trial.

Still amazes me trumps dealing with Lev Parnas seems to be ignored.

2/6/2020 11:57:39 AM

utowncha
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to address both your statements:

1) lol, surprise.

2) useless people are useless?

[Edited on February 6, 2020 at 12:06 PM. Reason : .]

2/6/2020 12:06:41 PM

A Tanzarian
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I wonder how Sondland is feeling about his campaign contributions now?

2/7/2020 7:18:51 PM

aaronburro
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Stupidly obvious retaliation. Pelosi should start new impeachment proceedings immediately over this. Fucking ridiculous

2/7/2020 10:05:29 PM

JT3bucky
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/end

2/8/2020 9:40:35 PM

dtownral
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When do we start Barr's impeachment?

2/11/2020 7:33:28 PM

dtownral
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Why did the house give Barr till next month to testify?

2/12/2020 6:07:53 PM

theDuke866
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fuck it. impeach someone once every week or two, haha.

just start cranking out impeachments like you read about.

2/12/2020 9:34:49 PM

dtownral
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Also, start arresting people who ignore subpoenas

2/12/2020 10:31:27 PM

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And all this does is make Trump more powerful. Can't you see? He literally has more power now and more impunity as a direct consequence of investigating collusion and impeaching him for abuse of power without the ability to close the deal.

2/13/2020 2:15:09 AM

utowncha
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impeaching him over the new roger stone controversy would probably be more successful than the last embarrassment

just dont let schiff or nadler near it

2/13/2020 7:23:10 AM

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?? Schiff did a fantastic job. Did you want him to hold up GOP Senators at gunpoint?

Nadler? Meh...

2/13/2020 7:40:51 AM

moron
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https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/1228044224567894017?s=21

Trump seems to be tweeting that If NY drops their lawsuit against him regarding his taxes, he’ll restore their global entry applications processing.

2/13/2020 4:58:37 PM

theDuke866
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^^^^^ yes, hell yes.

^^^ uh what? No way.

2/13/2020 8:45:27 PM

utowncha
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okay? then impeach him again over this^^

2/14/2020 9:50:32 AM

eyewall41
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This entire debacle is a prime example of how the American experiment is vulnerable and in a state of failure as we speak.

2/14/2020 11:47:17 AM

moron
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The fundamental thing seems to be that oaths of office have no legal power. The presidents swears to faithfully execute laws, but this means literally nothing. Doesn’t bar him from exonerating his criminal co-conspirators and punishing his political enemies.

With the only enforcement being congress and voters, voters can vote themselves into autocracy as long as congress is complicit. Irony is almost 3/4th of voters did want witnesses called in the impeachment trial which would have forced senators to put their votes against damning testimony. But it was the gop politicians that subverted the will of their own voters to support a fascist president.

If the Democrats had better leadership they would be able to mobilize people around this, portray it as an attack on all Americans, not just the trump gop vs the Democrats.


[Edited on February 14, 2020 at 1:10 PM. Reason : ]

2/14/2020 1:09:11 PM

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democrats own a lot of the fault, but the media shares some of it too

2/14/2020 1:13:52 PM

moron
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" Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski says there have not been indicators that President Trump has learned any lessons from being impeached. "


https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/02/13/gop-senator-trump-hasnt-learned-from-impeachment-nr-vpx.cnn

Trump cucked the entire gop senate in front of the country. Bloomberg should make an ad targeting them.

2/14/2020 10:18:12 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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BTTT

2/9/2021 1:07:15 PM

Bullet
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I saw someone a comment somewhere, and I'm not going to get this totally right, but:
one of Trump's lawyers refused to prosecute Cosby, and the other defended Epstein... so they basically defended the hollywood elite pedophhiles and serial rapists.... but now they're going to defend the guy who was supposedly going to bring down the Hollywood pedophile cabal?

2/9/2021 3:16:07 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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So far, Bruce Castor is flailing up there.

2/9/2021 3:23:25 PM

BettrOffDead
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you heard it on the daily show, do not lie

2/9/2021 5:01:30 PM

rwoody
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The daily show usually presents stuff after its made a few rounds on Twitter (I don't actually watch the daily show but a nightly show is naturally behind social media)

2/9/2021 5:02:51 PM

Bullet
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No, maybe the person who wrote it saw it on the Daily Show, but I very rarely watch that show anymore. I really can't take too much of Trevor Noah, I find him very annoying.

2/9/2021 5:06:54 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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A few senators reportedly averted their eyes when the video of the January 6 incitement was played for the chamber.

I can't figure out if that would have been due to plausible deniability reasons or to cognitive dissonance reasons.

2/9/2021 6:50:02 PM

A Tanzarian
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It's really unfair to convict someone with such bad legal representation.

2/9/2021 9:26:00 PM

UJustWait84
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he's going to be acquitted, but Censure barring him from office is a possibility. SDNY is far more likely to finally rid us of him, let alone his horrible health.

2/10/2021 2:06:13 AM

BettrOffDead
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do not lie

2/10/2021 9:44:36 AM

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"he's going to be acquitted, but Censure barring him from office is a possibility"


I'm not sure the Constitution supports barring him from office without conviction.

2/10/2021 11:43:20 AM

rwoody
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"Unlike removal, disqualification from office is a discretionary judgment, and there is no explicit constitutional linkage to the two-thirds vote on conviction. Although an argument can be made that disqualification should nonetheless require a two-thirds vote,855 the Senate has determined that disqualification may be accomplished by a simple majority vote"

https://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-2/49-judgment-removal-and-disqualification.html

2/10/2021 12:02:49 PM

A Tanzarian
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That's the GOP's best case scenario.

"Democrats unconstitutionally impeached Trump! They held a partisan vote to ban him from future office! They've disenfranchised 70 million Trump voters!"

Always a victim without agency.

2/10/2021 2:10:34 PM

Bullet
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Just curious, has a president ever run for president again after losing an election after his first term?

2/10/2021 3:32:30 PM

Cabbage
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Grover Cleveland

2/10/2021 3:38:34 PM

StTexan
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/02/us/politics/trump-2024.html

Cool article about it

2/10/2021 5:02:59 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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I wasn't expecting to see body camera footage.

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1359630377841795075

2/10/2021 5:51:33 PM

Bullet
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(if you're talking about the body cam footage showing the crazy-guy attacking the police outside, that actually came out a week or two ago, and there's a longer version)

2/10/2021 6:06:58 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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Thanks, I must have missed it.

2/10/2021 6:26:30 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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I wonder what Mike Lee disputes about the reported call between Donald Trump and Tommy Tuberville that occurred on his phone.

2/10/2021 8:26:40 PM

UJustWait84
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I'm not sure the Constitution supports barring him from office without conviction."


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-censure-realm-possibility-impeachment-fails-sen-jeff/story?id=75802580

No idea if it'll happen, but it's on the table, apparently.

2/10/2021 11:09:32 PM

darkone
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Article 1, Section 3:
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" ...Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States... "


This states that the two possible results of conviction on impeachment are removal from Office and/or disqualification to hold future office. This implies that disqualification - like removal from office - requires a 2/3rds vote for conviction.

I expect a lot of discussion of the role of "comma and..." in the passage.

2/11/2021 1:58:45 PM

rwoody
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It's fine we'll just rely on the 3 justices Trump put in place and the other judge that openly supports him to decide on the original intent of that comma

2/11/2021 3:58:17 PM

The Coz
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They should have used and/or.

2/11/2021 5:30:27 PM

UJustWait84
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This defense is laughable. Playing clips of politicians saying the words "fight" over and over with zero context. The editing is so bad. Sigh.

[Edited on February 12, 2021 at 12:54 PM. Reason : .]

2/12/2021 12:53:09 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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I'm not sure that the sole issue is that Donald Trump used the term "fight."

2/12/2021 12:54:48 PM

Mr. Joshua
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Glad they rolled out the clip of Johnny Depp talking shit about Trump. A real masterstroke.

2/12/2021 12:56:28 PM

Cabbage
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So when will the vote to convict/acquit be? Could it be as soon as today? Monday?

2/12/2021 1:05:30 PM

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