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haha, no it wasn't.

7/2/2019 12:16:20 PM

Sweden
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I'd rather listen to Telemundo tbh.

7/2/2019 2:19:19 PM

thegoodlife3
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no 4K on Telemundo, tho

[Edited on July 2, 2019 at 3:05 PM. Reason : or Fox50, to be fair]

7/2/2019 3:02:47 PM

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Trying to stream. Fox Sports seems overwhelmed like last game ugh

[Edited on July 2, 2019 at 3:07 PM. Reason : Just read were Rapinoe is not starting, weird]

7/2/2019 3:05:06 PM

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It's just too easy for us. lol
I think it's gonna be 3-1.

7/2/2019 3:13:01 PM

scotieb24
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Wish I could freaking watch it. Fox Sports shitting the bed again.

7/2/2019 3:14:26 PM

thegoodlife3
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no streaming issues for me

[Edited on July 2, 2019 at 3:22 PM. Reason : this is gonna be a clobber knocker ]

7/2/2019 3:18:32 PM

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^ on the site or mobile? both were not working for me for first 10 minutes. Now mobile works but not site.

[Edited on July 2, 2019 at 3:25 PM. Reason : site finally working, damn that is frustrating. Missed two goals]

7/2/2019 3:22:53 PM

scotieb24
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lol at the tea celebration

7/2/2019 3:33:02 PM

shoot
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3 goals is probably enough, more than 5 is brutal.

7/2/2019 3:40:59 PM

scotieb24
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Great play by Press but should have passed to Morgan

7/2/2019 4:18:05 PM

scotieb24
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whew, thanks VAR

7/2/2019 4:27:33 PM

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would have been absolutely livid had that same call gone against us

yikes

[Edited on July 2, 2019 at 4:30 PM. Reason : .]

7/2/2019 4:30:31 PM

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damn, thanks VAR ugh

[Edited on July 2, 2019 at 4:41 PM. Reason : Hell Yeah!!!!!!]

7/2/2019 4:40:33 PM

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ended up being the right call, but ugh

7/2/2019 4:43:55 PM

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I would have thought they would have tried for a goal on some of these lopsided breakaways

[Edited on July 2, 2019 at 4:55 PM. Reason : Woot Woot]

7/2/2019 4:53:15 PM

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Her size is perhaps B.



[Edited on July 2, 2019 at 6:16 PM. Reason : She's a female Zion]

7/2/2019 6:16:20 PM

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"would have been absolutely livid had that same call gone against us
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Not sure which one you meant but that offsides was tiiiiigght and would almost never be called without VAR. Glad we got it, but man if they had taken our goal on that... (although I guess they kinda did against france and didn't bother to var)

7/2/2019 9:06:49 PM

thegoodlife3
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yep, the offsides

7/2/2019 10:59:01 PM

thegoodlife3
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this game has been garbage

7/3/2019 4:50:04 PM

shoot
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Netherlands is winning. The final is gonna be interesting.

7/3/2019 5:28:05 PM

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7/3/2019 11:19:21 PM

thegoodlife3
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fuck yes

Fuck Donald Trump

7/7/2019 1:35:33 PM

Sweden
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****

7/7/2019 1:44:23 PM

scotieb24
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USA! USA! USA! WOOT WOOT

7/7/2019 3:46:54 PM

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"lol at the tea celebration"


Which she got rightfully criticized for, and then she claims that it's a double standard.

What now?

7/7/2019 3:50:04 PM

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"Which she got rightfully criticized for....."


Some perspective, courtesy of Brian Phillips

Quote :
"They were attacked for being un-American and also for performing perhaps the single most patriotic action available to any citizen of this country: trolling England in a manner involving tea."

7/7/2019 4:58:50 PM

BanjoMan
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It's just bad sportsmanship. Pathetic really.
Her crying about a double standard makes it even worse as there are countless examples of men being criticised, fined, and penalized for their celebrations.

7/7/2019 5:23:53 PM

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FOH with the bad sportsmanship stuff.

It’s a fucking game. Who cares about celebrations.

7/7/2019 6:05:54 PM

thegoodlife3
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dude is on of the dumbest people on here (and I am not a fan of pointing out dumb people)

7/7/2019 6:46:31 PM

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^ fair point

7/7/2019 9:40:16 PM

BanjoMan
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No it's not, actually.

Dumb is Rapinoe up there talking like she and Mbappe work at the same company doing the same shit, but the reality is that the men's world cup players are on a different level and bring in more money than the women. PERIOD. They SHOULD get paid for that level of competition as it currently stands. It is the most competitive sport in the world, and they should be compensated for that as they rightfully are.

[Edited on July 9, 2019 at 12:42 AM. Reason : k]

7/9/2019 12:41:09 AM

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What just kills me is that during the entire Women's World Cup Finals, the announcers were discussing and talking about how it is a new and growing game compared to the men's.... because it is! Based on that fact, it makes sense that the world wants to tune in to see the men more than the women.

So, where is this cash going? It should go back to the players, right? So, doesn't it make more sense that the men earn more than the women? At least until the women start to really compete with cash and viewership.

7/9/2019 12:48:57 AM

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What are you talking about? All the previous comments are about the stupid sportsmanship argument, not their pay.

7/9/2019 7:44:42 AM

Bullet
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Based on earlier (unrelated) comments, dude has made it clear he has issues with women, in general.

7/9/2019 10:34:06 AM

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https://sports.yahoo.com/here-are-the-strongest-arguments-the-uswnt-makes-in-its-discrimination-lawsuit-230443224.html

hopefully this will end the stupidity of someone not knowing what they’re talking about

7/9/2019 10:35:07 AM

BanjoMan
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https://nypost.com/2019/07/08/us-womens-soccer-team-equal-pay-gripe-is-less-than-it-seems/

Except that it's not stupidity. Their argument is all over the place, and they are taking numbers out of context. For example, the 2018 champions earning more than the women is a factoid that is commonly thrown around but this comparison is invalid due to how much more money the men brought in at the 2018 WC.

I certainly don't hate women, but this is just a press stunt. People should be focused on shitty maternity leave for women and not having secured job security after child birth. Those are the problems that are facing American women that are painfully pathetic considering how the rest of the world, particularly Europe, handles these situations.

Plus, I already mentioned how Women's tennis players fought their way up the salary flag pole and earned their right to more dough. Women soccer players can do the same. It is just the simple fact that the entire world will turn in to View Messi and Ronaldo go toe to toe, but that's not the case with Rapinoe vs... some random Dutch girl. That is their problem at the moment. It is the relative difference in the popularity between the two sports. The problem isn't discrimination.

[Edited on July 9, 2019 at 11:51 AM. Reason : k]

7/9/2019 11:43:33 AM

BanjoMan
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From the article above, and it's a good read.

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"But the women’s game isn’t as popular or profitable, which fundamentally drives pay.

The total prize money for the women’s 2019 World Cup was $30 million, with the champion taking away about $4 million. The total for the men’s 2018 World Cup was $400 million, with the champions winning $38 million.

This seems blatantly unfair, until you take into account the vastly different viewership and revenue from the two events. FIFA raked in more than $6 billion from the 2018 men’s World Cup. The women’s 2019 World Cup has been projected, when all is said and done, to make about $130 million."


IMO, this is not discrimination. The difference in prize money is completely justified based off of total revenue.

[Edited on July 9, 2019 at 12:01 PM. Reason : k]

7/9/2019 11:57:54 AM

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I am a bit dissapointed in Rapinoe, but not in her performance (obviously), but that she had a chance to talk about gender equality on the biggest stage and promoted her own personal agenda.

As I mentioned earlier, things such as maternity leave and job security are issues that still to this date face nearly every working mom in this country. Women that announce pregnancy will either get fired or get their hours cut, and they have no security for maintaining their jobs after child birth. These are, IMO, issues that are more pertinent than the women's team trying to squeeze out a couple more bucks due to a publicity stunt.

7/9/2019 12:07:13 PM

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Couldn't find a way to make that one post?


Why does the argument that the men bring in more money so their prizes should be bigger keep coming up? FIFA is not a business, they are there for development. Lower prizes will not damage the viewership, participation in, or quality of that tournament. Just share the pool between both the men's and women's tournament evenly, higher prizes in the Women's World Cup would, WITHOUT A DOUBT, improve the overall product for everyone.

There is 0% chance of this coming to pass of course.

Also, it's not up to you or anyone else what Rapinoe uses her stage for, so stfu

7/9/2019 12:22:46 PM

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Banjo using FIFA financials to make historical argument. Def a solid foundation there

7/9/2019 12:31:10 PM

bubster5041
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Most likely outcome:

1) equalize the pay at the Women's level.

2) Use the balance for Mediterranean prostitution yacht parties

7/9/2019 3:46:54 PM

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"I am a bit dissapointed in Rapinoe, but not in her performance (obviously), but that she had a chance to talk about gender equality on the biggest stage and promoted her own personal agenda."


Go suck a dick bro.

7/9/2019 3:49:49 PM

BanjoMan
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what's wrong with suckin dick? You hate gays or something?

7/9/2019 3:54:12 PM

rwoody
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https://twitter.com/NutmegRadio/status/1148564850987216899?s=19

Good thread on why banjos fifa numbers are useless bullshit

7/9/2019 8:25:07 PM

thegoodlife3
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love 2 cite conservative assholes when arguing against paying women more

7/9/2019 8:30:31 PM

rwoody
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Tbf banjo posted something from NY post not to federalist but still

7/9/2019 8:56:05 PM

horosho
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No one is arguing that US women make the same as French men. The lawsuit is about what US soccer pays the US men vs what they pay the US women. US women bring in more money than US men. US men did not make the world cup. Talking about Russia, Messi or Ronaldo are irrelevant in this conversation.

7/9/2019 9:00:09 PM

thegoodlife3
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^^ that thread is a reply to a Federalist piece and the douche who wrote the piece in the NY Post is a big time conservative turd

7/9/2019 9:35:35 PM

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I have still yet to see definitive proof that the us women bring in more total revenue than the men. All of the articles and arguments saying that the women earn more base it solely off ticket sales and not on things such as network contracts, sponsorships, etc... and that's all money in the bank that the men are responsible for.

And the world cup bonus differential is very relevant. The fact that the French made more than the US Women is brought up constantly by commentators, politicians, and advocators for the "equal pay movement". I watched the women's final, and the point was mentioned at least twice by commentators.

7/9/2019 11:02:53 PM

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