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The Coz
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"The January 6th Select Committee's next televised hearing will be at 8:00 PM Eastern Time on Thursday, June 9th."

What channel(s)?

6/3/2022 2:46:43 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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My television guide has it on ABC.

I'm also assuming that CNN and MSNBC will carry it, and I think that you'll also be able to stream it here:

https://january6th.house.gov/news/watch-live

[Edited on June 3, 2022 at 3:19 PM. Reason : ]

6/3/2022 3:17:28 PM

The Coz
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Thanks!

6/3/2022 3:44:24 PM

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Please don't be a pontificating shit show *fingers crossed*

6/3/2022 5:28:24 PM

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Tapes Expose Republicans’ Plan to Takeover Democratic-Majority Polls

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"It’s safe to assume that our next election period will bring some more “voter fraud prevention” foolery. However, some GOP members in Michigan have gone beyond just election poll police. They plan to take the polls into their own hands. According to a POLITICO report, video recordings of GOP members and grassroots activists were released, exposing their strategy to target and possibly overturn votes in Democratic voting precincts.

Matthew Seifried, a Republican National Committee staffer, explained the plan as “providing political balance among poll workers” and installing “party-trained” volunteers ready to challenge voters in Democratic polling areas. Per the recordings, the plan also involves connecting these “volunteers” to lawyers so that they could potentially block vote counts in certain precincts. "


https://www.theroot.com/tapes-expose-republicans-plan-to-takeover-democratic-m-1849007223

6/4/2022 9:14:27 AM

HaLo
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LOL @ quoting theroot

6/4/2022 3:53:31 PM

Cabbage
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What's wrong with The Root? Sincere question. I first heard of this on Bill Maher's show or The Daily Show; I can't remember which. Did a quick search on the net and found the article I posted; otherwise, I'm unfamiliar with The Root.

I just looked and don't see anything particularly troubling:

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"Bias Rating: LEFT
Factual Reporting: MOSTLY FACTUAL
Country: USA (44/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY"


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-root/

(and regarding the "MOSTLY" FACTUAL rating--The Washington Post was given the same evaluation, but I wouldn't expect anyone but a right wing nut job to scoff at them as a source).

[Edited on June 5, 2022 at 2:16 AM. Reason : ]

[Edited on June 5, 2022 at 2:17 AM. Reason : ]

6/5/2022 2:14:07 AM

Pupils DiL8t
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This is the original Politico piece:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/01/gop-contest-elections-tapes-00035758

6/6/2022 8:43:21 AM

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" What's wrong with The Root?"


It’s all echo chamber “analysis”. They have a very low amount of original reporting. And it is really just opinion masked as “articles”. Shit just look at the first paragraph of the linked article, 4 links in the first two sentences.

6/6/2022 8:49:36 AM

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Oh, OK, I see your point. Thanks for the response.

6/6/2022 9:22:39 AM

HaLo
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No worries…I’ll generally use theroot as my aggregation starting point (ie. what should I be outraged by today ) and then go to primary sources for the actual news.

6/6/2022 10:57:14 AM

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https://www.npr.org/2022/06/06/1103364995/proud-boys-leader-tarrio-four-others-charged-with-seditious-conspiracy

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"The leader of the far-right Proud Boys group and four associates have been charged with seditious conspiracy related to the Jan. 6, 2021 attack that was intended to block Congress from certifying the results of the 2020 election.

It's the second group to face the rare and serious charge of conspiring to overthrow the government or prevent the execution of U.S. law tied to the deadly siege on the U.S. Capitol. Eleven members of the Oath Keepers group, including leader Stewart Rhodes, were charged with seditious conspiracy earlier this year.
...
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6/6/2022 4:50:37 PM

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Personally, I'm very interested in these public hearings to hopefully give a proper accounting for history, but I'm less than optimistic that it can sway anyone's opinions. Seems more likely to just deepen the Deep State in the minds of conspiracy nuts, no matter how factual, unemotional, and compelling the presentation may turn out to be. Or, it could easily devolve into a pontificating shit show.

6/7/2022 9:34:27 PM

The Coz
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GET HYPE!

6/9/2022 6:37:53 AM

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I'm glad the FBI is able to use their resources to arrest, on misdemeanor charges, the gubernatorial candidate for the GOP in Michigan.

6/9/2022 2:28:16 PM

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Do you think running for office should protect him from facing consequences for participating in a coup attempt?

6/9/2022 2:35:25 PM

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"he's the king of hot takes who normally doesn't put too much thought into said hot takes

that's been his deal for a while now"

6/9/2022 2:41:05 PM

The Coz
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Who dat?

6/9/2022 2:49:27 PM

thegoodlife3
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yep, I’m sure the arrest involved multiple branches, and hundreds, if not thousands of agents

far, far too many resources for such a regular, every day crime

6/9/2022 3:04:15 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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Isn't he just a gubernatorial candidate for the GOP in Michigan?

[Edited on June 9, 2022 at 5:05 PM. Reason : ]

6/9/2022 5:05:05 PM

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yes, yes he is

but it appears that someone on here believes it’s the FBI targeting a GOP candidate for partisan reasons

6/9/2022 5:31:42 PM

The Coz
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I hope some folks are watching these hearings.

6/9/2022 9:12:20 PM

thegoodlife3
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it’s a very good thing that the 3 major broadcast networks are covering this live

6/9/2022 9:14:15 PM

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I doubt anyone watching will change their minds. Hopefully it does encourage people to get out and vote though

6/9/2022 9:17:36 PM

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there are plenty of non-Fox News diehards who will watch breaking news when it’s on one of the big 3 broadcast networks

6/9/2022 9:36:19 PM

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http://twitter.com/waltisfrozen/status/1535074148728598529

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" “Changing minds” shouldn’t be the goal of investigating a plot to overthrow our constitutional government. This isn’t PR. These were serious crimes. If Trump et al aren’t indicted, then America is over."

6/9/2022 9:42:51 PM

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Oh, I completely agree, even if it doesn't change one mind,n it's the correct thing to do. Just like how impeachment never had a chance in hell of succeeding, but it was still the right thing.

6/9/2022 10:06:42 PM

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Newt Gingrich was on Laura Ingraham after the hearing and mentioned the story that Trump asked Pelosi to authorize 20,000 National Guard troops for Jan 6 but Pelosi turned him down. Laura actually stopped him to remind him that Pelosi and others deny that ever happened. Newt's response: We know that Trump did in fact make the suggestion BECAUSE Pelosi turned it down--You can't turn down something that was never offered.

6/10/2022 3:01:27 AM

The Coz
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Ironclad logic!

I liked when Liz Cheney basically called Kevin McCarthy a scared little bitch.

6/10/2022 7:01:24 AM

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^^It sounds like he was trying to goad someone into saying, "Pelosi didn't deny the request." so he could say, "So you admit that he did make the request." but they botched the plan.

6/10/2022 7:38:50 AM

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For the most part, I thought it was presented very well and was very powerful. Maybe a little over- dramatic at times.... of course, it's was/is a very dramatic situation, but that will just make some even quicker to dismiss it. But it only takes perusing some social media (and watching Fox) after the hearing to see that nothing is going to change the mind of the defenders of the riot and Trump supporters. No matter how many videos are shown, how many facts are presented, how much testimony is given (even from family and Trump-appointed people) it's not going to make a difference to their narrative. But of course it needs to be done, and documented, and hopefully it will result in something.

6/10/2022 11:22:26 AM

The Coz
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And what could that something be? I've found myself wondering.

6/10/2022 11:50:39 AM

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publicly shaming people like Kevin McCarthy/elected officials who lobbied for pardons is a decent something

hopefully inspiring journalists to be more than stenographers would a pretty great something

not saying I think this will change those things, but at least there’s a chance

[Edited on June 10, 2022 at 12:02 PM. Reason : .]

6/10/2022 11:58:57 AM

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I'm curious to hear which members of congress asked for a pardon in the days after the riot

6/10/2022 12:01:49 PM

thegoodlife3
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more than 19 million people watched

6/10/2022 4:35:41 PM

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^^ One of them is Rep. Scott Perry, who is also the person Mark Meadows met before burning documents in the fireplace.

6/10/2022 5:27:37 PM

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A federal indictment against trump seemed to be the angle McCain was going for with her wording and invocation of the justice department

6/10/2022 5:38:49 PM

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^Cheney?

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"I'm curious to hear which members of congress asked for a pardon in the days after the riot"


What is the source of this information? Was it hinted at last night and I missed it, or coming from elsewhere?

6/10/2022 6:41:56 PM

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"Newt Gingrich was on Laura Ingraham after the hearing and mentioned the story that Trump asked Pelosi to authorize 20,000 National Guard troops for Jan 6 but Pelosi turned him down. Laura actually stopped him to remind him that Pelosi and others deny that ever happened. Newt's response: We know that Trump did in fact make the suggestion BECAUSE Pelosi turned it down--You can't turn down something that was never offered."


If anyone's interested I found a recording of this online:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUxnIThe-Zk

It begins at about 31:40 and lasts around a minute. (I doubt that link will last long since it's a bootleg copy).

6/10/2022 7:24:09 PM

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^^https://www.npr.org/2022/06/10/1104156949/jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript

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"In our hearings, you will hear firsthand how the senior leadership of the Department of Justice threatened to resign, how the White House counsel threatened to resign, and how they confronted Donald Trump and Jeff Clark in the Oval Office. The men involved, including Acting Attorney General Jeff Rosen and Acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue were appointed by President Trump. These men honored their oaths of office. They did their duty. And you will hear from them in our hearings. By contrast, Jeff Clark has invoked his Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination and refused to testify. Representative Scott Perry, who is also involved in trying to get Clark appointed as Attorney General, has refused to testify here. As you will see, Representative Perry contacted the White House in the weeks after January 6th to seek a Presidential pardon. Multiple other Republican Congressmen also sought Presidential pardons for their roles in attempting to overturn the 2020 election. In our fourth hearing, we will focus on President Trump's efforts to pressure Vice President Mike Pence to refuse to count electoral votes on January 6th. Vice President Pence has spoken publicly about this. "


[Edited on June 10, 2022 at 7:26 PM. Reason : ^^]

[Edited on June 10, 2022 at 7:27 PM. Reason : ^^]

6/10/2022 7:26:02 PM

The Coz
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Oops! Thank you! I recall hearing most of this segment, but I guess it didn't fully register. I think I was texting updates at the time to someone who wasn't watching.

6/10/2022 7:43:02 PM

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"more than 19 million people watched"


Tucker Carlson had about 3 million viewers, for comparison.


https://deadline.com/2022/06/how-to-watch-january-6-hearings-online-tv-schedule-1235040755/

According to the link above, the next hearing, which is scheduled at 10:00 AM Eastern Time on Monday, June 13, is aimed at showing that "Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information," despite the fact that he knew that he had lost the election, and former Fox News staffer Chris Stirewalt will testify.

The following hearing, which is scheduled at 10:00 AM Eastern Time on Wednesday, June 15, will target Trump's alleged plot to influence and possibly replace the U.S. Attorney General in order to further false election claims. Set to testify are Jeffrey Rosen, who was then acting attorney general, his deputy Richard Donoghue and Justice Department official Steve Engel.

6/12/2022 12:10:23 PM

The Coz
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Get 'em!

6/12/2022 12:30:04 PM

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guilani drunk, trump knew he was lying, and continued to lie for weeks.

6/13/2022 11:10:16 AM

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I hate that mark meadows is in the middle of this but so far seems to be avoiding consequences. He was scum in NC and he's scum working with trump.

6/13/2022 11:56:47 AM

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6/13/2022 11:59:06 AM

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I just assumed this would be at night like the last one.

Anyone know if/where this will be replaying on tv? (no lmgtfy)

6/13/2022 12:05:33 PM

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aLl i ReMeMbEr AbOuT jAnUaRy 6tH wAs hOw ChEaP gAs PrIcEs WeRe

6/13/2022 12:12:56 PM

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^^ watch on cspan

https://www.c-span.org/video/?520804-1/hearing-investigation-capitol-attack&vod

6/13/2022 12:23:59 PM

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Imagine if these people had been called to testify at the impeachment trial. I don’t think I can ever forgive the gop for blocking witnesses.

6/13/2022 12:27:33 PM

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