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I think the expectation is for Wilson to go pro. I’d guess thomas probably has the least pro potential given his size. And he’s a sophomore (junior really, but extra from covid). So I’d fully expect thomas back.

10/31/2021 2:09:22 PM

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Welp, AP didn't think we deserved to be ranked. We'll see what happens with the Coaches.

Can't believe Iowa is ranked after two straight turds against Purdue and Wisconsin; Same with Penn State given their loss to a bad Illinois. Whatever, we're only the second team out.

10/31/2021 2:45:14 PM

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CFP poll comes out this week, right?

[Edited on October 31, 2021 at 4:02 PM. Reason : I only say that because once it’s out it renders the other polls useless]

10/31/2021 4:02:05 PM

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Correct on all accounts, comes out Tuesday

10/31/2021 4:08:41 PM

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We have a TO margin of +6 (tied for 18th in country, 2nd in ACC).

Only 6 turnovers lost on the season (tied for 5th fewest in country, 1st in ACC). 3 fumbles, 3 INTs (one being the infamous jump pass vs Miss State). We’ve done a great job taking care of the ball. We aren’t necessarily forcing tons of turnovers but pretty amazing how well we’re taking care of the ball.

Those stats would be even better in ACC play. All 3 of our INTs came vs USF and Miss State. And a fumble lost vs Miss State.

10/31/2021 4:13:35 PM

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"Can't believe Iowa is ranked after two straight turds against Purdue and Wisconsin; Same with Penn State given their loss to a bad Illinois."


i see this is your first season following college football

10/31/2021 4:38:46 PM

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"I think the expectation is for Wilson to go pro"


honestly i don't think Wilson is as high on scouts boards as fans might think (even before the injury this year.) maybe a 3rd/4th prior to this injury which will undoubtedly tank his stock since he's now had an abundance of serious shoulder issues.

10/31/2021 4:42:02 PM

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^^ lol nah just disappointed

10/31/2021 4:48:15 PM

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CFB rankings are such a crock of shit. Preseason especially (they shouldn't exist until week 3).

I don't necessarily think we deserve to be ranked, but it's a bit odd to be dropped 9 spots after a tight loss (to a team that's possibly better than everyone though...though also not as good as everyone thought preseason - #14), and then after a solid win not move up.

11/1/2021 9:52:20 AM

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We went from 18 to 28, Pitt went from 17 to 26. At least that's semi consistent!

Two biggest wtfs are Fresno, went from 0 votes to 25th for beating former #21, and La-La that had about the same votes as us last week but beating a 2-6 Texas st is better then beating a 4-4 Lou I guess...

Crazy that Penn st is still ranked after losing to Illinois and 3 in a row.

[Edited on November 1, 2021 at 11:14 AM. Reason : E]

11/1/2021 11:02:35 AM

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FWIW, Coaches has us ranked at 18th. That's one of the bigger discrepancies I've seen before. I know the difference between 18 and 27 isn't all that big in the grand scheme of things but to think we're 'receiving votes' in one and not bottom-5 in the other is just a weird spot to be in

11/1/2021 12:27:15 PM

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I see us at 22? Coaches harder on SMU and didn't give La-La or Fresno so much credit

[Edited on November 1, 2021 at 12:44 PM. Reason : E]

11/1/2021 12:43:58 PM

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You're right, I was looking at the site linked below, which I am now noticing is a "prediction" and not the actual rankings. "Top story" when I Googled Coaches Poll 2021 for whatever reason. 22 seems much more reasonable.

https://collegefootballnews.com/2021/10/coaches-top-25-poll-powered-by-usa-today-rankings-prediction-week-9

11/1/2021 1:02:45 PM

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College Power Index has us at 18. which I think is really fair. I find it more amusing that they have Wake at 26th.

[Edited on November 2, 2021 at 11:59 AM. Reason : d]

11/2/2021 11:58:59 AM

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CFP Rankings has us at 19, and Miss St (one of our two losses) ranked 17. Wake is ranked 9, and Pitt 25th. They haven't finished the top 8 yet but I can't imagine another ACC team being there

11/2/2021 7:18:42 PM

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Lol at Bama being 2. Sets up for a 2 loss Bama to still make it. Which is super duper bullshit but whatever

[Edited on November 2, 2021 at 7:24 PM. Reason : A]

11/2/2021 7:23:35 PM

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Cincy at 6 is just further proof a G5 has no shot. And lol at OU at 8 too

11/2/2021 7:37:28 PM

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Biggest game since the Torrey Smith game?

11/6/2021 7:47:40 PM

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absolutely

11/6/2021 7:50:36 PM

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Biggest game since the last biggest game.

[Edited on November 6, 2021 at 9:25 PM. Reason : But yeah. Biggest since Torrey Smith fucked us up ]

11/6/2021 9:25:14 PM

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From Wiki, 2010 season:
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"Smith delivered a record-setting performance against #23 North Carolina State,[58] in which he collected a career-high 14 receptions for 224 yards and four touchdowns.[59] Smith scored on catches of 10, 11, 12, and 71 yards,[59] and his performance helped Maryland win, 38–31, despite amassing negative rushing yards.[60] During the game, Smith set the school record for career all-purpose yardage, which surpassed Lamont Jordan's previous mark of 4,960 yards."


Thanks for putting that dagger back in.

11/6/2021 9:30:48 PM

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Lol sorry bro. I'm flew home from Thanksgiving that day and kept my phone on airplane mode til I finished watching the game at like 130am

11/6/2021 10:07:26 PM

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Defense continues to be solid even with some guys being out for injury, very impressive.

11/6/2021 11:33:06 PM

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wat

11/7/2021 12:57:13 AM

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What part of the simple story should I elaborate on?

The game started while I was in the air, I had it dvring, if I took my phone off airplane mode I'd get spoilers

11/7/2021 1:06:05 AM

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11/7/2021 1:18:06 AM

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Ok

11/7/2021 1:32:54 AM

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I feel bad for anybody here who doesn't already know how the Wake game is going to play out. There's only one way this goes with a coach who has zero signature wins during his tenure here. And no, beating the worst Clemson team in almost two decades doesn't count, no matter what they were ranked at the time.

11/7/2021 11:24:17 PM

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k

11/7/2021 11:39:30 PM

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The crazy thing is if you swap the result of that game, Clemson is probably still Top 15. They are Georgias only close game.

11/8/2021 12:02:35 AM

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I hope I'm wrong, but... At Wake (who always has our number at home), with a coach who underachieves consistently.

11/8/2021 12:13:13 AM

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lol at Clemson’s worst team in 2 decades. It’s definitely not their worst team in 2 decades. But also, this is the fallacy with “Doeren hasn’t beaten anybody”. If he loses to Clemson they are a ranked team and in good position to win the division. He beats them, they are unranked…and now you can argue he hasn’t beaten anybody any good.

Also lol at the defeatist attitude of “we all know how this game will go”. Fuck off with the losers mentality. We’re playing a meaningful game late into the season. Just enjoy that we’re halfway relevant right now. Maybe we lose, maybe we win…but this isn’t a position we’ve been in all that often.

That type of bullshit just takes the fun out of being a fan.

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Do we have an NFL skill position player on offense? We’ve lost two or maybe three NFL level defenders to injury this year and we’re still winning. This season doesn’t look like one where we’re underachieving if you ask me.



[Edited on November 8, 2021 at 7:43 AM. Reason : foh with the miserable defeatist bullshit]

11/8/2021 7:40:23 AM

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We have the best defense in the league with arguably our best 3 or more defenders out for the season.


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this exactly. GTFO if you can't be happy for once.

Wake defense has more holes in it than 50 cent.

11/8/2021 8:18:34 AM

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We will need the turnover battle with Wake. also need to get to the QB. Hartman and those WR for Wake have beat some DBs/S deep, and that is probably our biggest weakness.

we've given up some big TD plays in the last three games.

be nice to get the running game going early. unc* ran the counter on wake a 100 times.

11/8/2021 8:39:51 AM

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I'm pumped for the Wake Forest game. Only the second time both teams have been ranked coming into the game, which is crazy since we've played every year since 1910....

Also disappointed but not surprised College GameDay chose a basically-random $€¢ game over arguably one of the most historic and symbolic rivalries in CFB and a matchup that has huge implications in the ACC race. On the one hand you've got ten decades of traditional college athletics, heritage, and a major conference decider. On the other, you've got a meeting that is the product of playoff expansionism cash grabs and has little impact on the conference or CFP in general unless Bama loses. A better matchup, sure, a better game, probably, but I think Winston-Salem would've been a really interesting place to do it.

11/8/2021 8:49:35 AM

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Wakes probably gonna score 35 on us. They haven’t scored less than 35 all year. We’re also the best D they’ve faced and they’re the best O we’ve faced. They also are likely the worst D we’ve faced in ACC play.

Gonna need the O to hit explosive plays and maintain drives. Which shouldn’t be an issue against Wake’s D. Just gotta take advantage of opportunities and hopefully force a couple turnovers.

11/8/2021 9:26:35 AM

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Gonna need the O to hit explosive plays and maintain drives. Which shouldn’t be an issue against Wake’s D. Just gotta take advantage of opportunities and hopefully force a couple turnovers."


I think we slow play this game(time of possession will be key) and basically let the clock run down on them.

11/8/2021 10:20:04 AM

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Gotta be able to run the ball to do that. But I agree, that’s a sound strategy if we can pull it off. I guess I was just thinking back to the FSU and UL games where we had good field position but didn’t take advantage. D was getting stops and offense took a while to get going. Hopefully the offense doesn’t take too long to get going against a bad Wake defense

11/8/2021 11:02:27 AM

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Yep. If we cant run against this Wake defense we are in trouble

11/8/2021 11:30:00 AM

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Clemson is going to win out and be 9-3 with a chance at still winning the ACC. So 3 losses. One in OT at a ranked team, one in a close game against the clear best team, and another at another ranked team.

That's not even close to worst in 20 years. Our programs were nearly the same at the end of Tommy Bowden's run.

11/8/2021 1:41:53 PM

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You would think we could move up with a win this week but then you look at the next to last week of the season and likely not many teams in front of us losing. The SEC mostly playing FCS teams. Look at these awesome matchups:

Georgia vs Charleston Southern
aTm vs Prairie View A&M
Miss State vs Tennessee State
Kentucky vs New Mexico State
LSU vs UL Monroe
Tennessee vs South Alabama

11/18/2021 10:34:07 AM

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Sec always does that 2nd to last week for whatever reason

11/18/2021 10:36:07 AM

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UNC* got a solid match up this weekend too.

11/18/2021 11:17:33 AM

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https://www.fayobserver.com/story/sports/2021/11/19/nc-state-football-brink-historic-season-wolfpack-fans-disappointed/8655858002/

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"Doeren, now in his ninth season, has won 11 of his last 16 ACC games and is on pace to become the program's all-time winningest coach in the next two years. He needs one more victory this year to have five eight-win seasons with the Wolfpack. No other N.C. State coach has done that. "


Lets do it coach.

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"With two regular-season games remaining and a subsequent bowl game, the Wolfpack (7-3, 4-2 ACC) could still play in Charlotte if Wake Forest loses on the road to Clemson — the Tigers have won 33 straight in Death Valley — and Boston College, which is 2-0 since the return of quarterback Phil Jurkovec."


The ultimate NC State shit happens when this actually happens and we forfeit the ACC Championship game due to covid.

11/19/2021 8:48:24 AM

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just had to beat Miami. we ain't never winning in the dash again.

11/19/2021 9:13:03 AM

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If we had beat Miami, we would still be in 2nd with a loss to Wake.

11/19/2021 1:48:33 PM

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Except we would only need wake to lose one of their remaining.

11/19/2021 3:07:12 PM

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Would we? We’d both have 1 loss. They’d have tiebreaker over us with head to head.

That UNC L was a OOC game.

[Edited on November 19, 2021 at 3:08 PM. Reason : Beating Wake was the clearest path all along. But both conference losses sting ]

11/19/2021 3:08:16 PM

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"Except we would only need wake to lose one of their remaining."


Wake has to lose both games

11/19/2021 4:21:15 PM

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Honestly, we knew what we had to do.

I hope wake wins out and makes it look that much better but I fully expect them to shit the bed with clemson.

11/19/2021 4:22:15 PM

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