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quiksilver
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This really is for a friend. She doesn’t want to be vaccinated and her company (she is a pharmacist) is is telling her she has to before January. I don’t want to debate her reasoning. But if she were to be fired for refusal she is asking if she could pull unemployment. Asking for anyone who has done this to see if they had issues with unemployment. It’s vague online. I know I’m likely going to be asked why my friend doesn’t want to be vaxed and all other hate but the facts are the facts and I’m not here to debate the reasons. Just an unemployment question for anyone else that has encountered it.

[Edited on December 2, 2021 at 11:13 AM. Reason : .]

12/2/2021 11:11:14 AM

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Fuck your stupid friend

12/2/2021 12:36:05 PM

daaave
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If it is company policy or government mandate, she won't be eligible for unemployment.

12/2/2021 12:42:08 PM

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North Carolina resident. Company policy. And she has a PharmD so I’m not going to debate her choices as she is more educated on it than I. She asked me as a financial professional and even the unemployment office will not tell me the answer. So I was asking if anyone had real life experience. Thank you ^

[Edited on December 2, 2021 at 1:20 PM. Reason : .]

12/2/2021 1:19:03 PM

quiksilver
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If you are worried about being trolled feel free to PM me. Just trying to get a solid answer. Daave gave a good one and I appreciate it.

[Edited on December 2, 2021 at 1:24 PM. Reason : .]

12/2/2021 1:23:40 PM

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My reply was 100% not trolling

12/2/2021 1:49:25 PM

quiksilver
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This isn’t a debate thread on vax vs non vax people. She is a pharma professional with over 30 years of experience and gives the shot. It is about unemployment benefits eligibility. I’m not going to debate a Dr. or anyone about their views on the vaccine.

12/2/2021 1:52:25 PM

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I don't care what your friend does or how long she's been doing it, she's stupid. There are stupid people in every profession and with every degree. Your friend is one of those people.

12/2/2021 2:36:51 PM

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I think your posting history reflects the same stupidity. Again the topic isn’t about your opinion on vaccinations and your inability to stay on topic expands on that.

12/2/2021 2:45:20 PM

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It would be ironic if known anti-masker quiksilver is the person who convinced his friend to be anti-vax.

12/2/2021 5:02:01 PM

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Quite the opposite. I still mask often while being vaxed but don’t debate a Dr. about their choice. So again this isn’t a vax debate thread. It’s simply to ask if someone has applied for unemployment after not following attesting to being vaxed and what their outcome was.

12/2/2021 5:54:16 PM

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" I still mask often while being vaxed but don’t debate a Dr. about their choice"


being a doctor doesn't mean she isn't susceptible to conspiracy theories

12/2/2021 6:30:47 PM

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"Fuck your stupid friend"


Fuck you too, guy.

12/2/2021 6:31:21 PM

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You don't get unemployment when fired for cause oh, my company doesn't give any kind of severance either

12/2/2021 6:49:08 PM

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She isn’t one to conspiracy theories but I bet she is a little more versed than you. 30% of health care workers in the USA remain un vaxed as of last week. I’m not here to argue this. I am looking for an answer to my primary question.

12/2/2021 7:18:17 PM

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that means 70% are vaccinated

12/2/2021 8:36:44 PM

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I'd imagine a good chunk of that 30% are low wage hourly employees who often come from island nations and believe in natural medicine, etc. I wonder how many doctors who graduated medical school, for example, are unvaccinated. Of the highly educated healthcare workers who aren't vaccinated, I'd guess some of them have fallen victim to all the batshit anti-vax propaganda.

Healthcare workers (not pharmacists necessarily) are the people who most need to be vaccinated, since they spend a lot of time in contact with people who are immunocompromised and at high risk of COVID. So I don't have any sympathy for someone who spends their days around sick people but who won't get vaccinated, for whatever reason. Sounds like she needs to find a job in a different industry.

[Edited on December 2, 2021 at 8:41 PM. Reason : .]

12/2/2021 8:39:38 PM

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"30% of health care workers in the USA remain un vaxed as of last week."


Skewed by Facebook-addicted nurses. Let's see the stats for the MDs.

12/2/2021 11:04:57 PM

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She actually is considering changing professions not because of vaccination but how shitty retail pharmacists are treated. And I have been in the room with her on conference calls and you would likely roll back the thoughts on how any of RPhs are anti vax. In fact the lower earning technicians are more adamant at being vaxed than the pharmacists. Again my purpose was not to create a vaccine debate. I just wanted to see if anyone had issues with unemployment in NC being fired because of it.

[Edited on December 3, 2021 at 6:01 AM. Reason : .]

12/3/2021 6:01:11 AM

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I can say with complete certainty that where I work (the #1 Pharmacy School in the country and the only one in the Triangle) our faculty vaccination rate is 99%. The wider campus rate is 94% of faculty and 88% of staff for a combined total of 90% as staff outnumber faculty. So yea, your friend is in the EXTREME minority of Pharmacists not getting her vaccine. And before you give me any "Did they get a real vaccine?" bullshit, I've been in flu and covid vaccine clinics with both staff and faculty put on by our students and they have been rolling their sleeve up and getting vaccinated just like the plebes. So yeah, I would like to provide a strong counterargument to what you are claiming as I work with many PharmD/PhD faculty members on a daily basis and have heard no hesitancy over the Covid vaccine. While I work on the education side a number of them are in the research track and have been doing studies on the vaccine and other SARS-CoV variants, so I feel their knowledge and expertise on this probably exceeds your friend who works at Walgreens or Walmart.

12/3/2021 7:18:59 AM

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I won’t disclose her employer. It is a larger chain. But I am also friends with several of her friends who are pharmacists who feel the same way. Students may be more on the upside of vaccinated and I don’t have a large enough sample size to make blanket statements just the numbers I have heard on this company’s corporate calls. Again I do not want to argue her point just trying to find an answer if anyone has been denied unemployment benefits for refusal to attest.

The person I’m speaking of is running a financial plan with me and considering changing careers or companies over this so she wants to know if she’s fired will she be able to collect her benefits or not. She doesn’t need them. Wealth after 30 years of pharmacy but trying to weigh her options.

Not my place to ask “why don’t you just show you papers?”

Also, many pharmacists are passing out fraudulent verifications to those who don’t want vax. If you have a friend in the game willing to swap cards it’s not hard.

So they will appear in the database and have a card with no vax. She isn’t one of these people but I know people who are so numbers may be lower than you think. In the education Avenue I would assume they are higher as younger demographic tends to be more open to new research.

I will state again, I do not need talking points to suggest someone get a vaccine. Just testimonial about unemployment. I have one answer on that by daave.

[Edited on December 3, 2021 at 11:13 AM. Reason : .]

12/3/2021 11:03:43 AM

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Sorry this has spun out of control. I just wanted to hear personal testimony of anyone who refused, got fired and applied for benefits. NC unemployment will not answer my question no matter how I phrase it. So I was looking for anyone with real life experience on it.

12/3/2021 11:22:48 AM

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https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article254834892.html

12/3/2021 11:55:27 AM

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I don't want my tax dollars going to someone who's "unemployed" because they refuse to get vaccinated! So I say no, she shouldn't apply for unemployment.

12/3/2021 12:29:55 PM

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"she has a PharmD so I’m not going to debate her choices as she is more educated on it than I."


There is no debate, she's not smart

Do you know what they call the lowest GPA of a graduating class in med school...?

Dr.

[Edited on December 3, 2021 at 12:34 PM. Reason : ...]

12/3/2021 12:34:04 PM

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"Not my place to ask “why don’t you just show you papers?”"


There it is

12/3/2021 12:44:48 PM

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Everyone has their own limits on personal health and government control. I help people make financial decisions. I don’t tell my lawyer how to practice law, real estate agent sell property or accountant do taxes. They don’t tell me how to make them money or will soon be fired. I agree not to be a leach on the system and gather unemployment when not eligible. At one time I was laid off and chose not to file because I had something lined up. As I have said many times not a covid debate. I don’t take issue with those saying she should be vaxed but it’s not my call. It’s unemployment question that our state office will not answer.

[Edited on December 3, 2021 at 1:03 PM. Reason : .]

12/3/2021 1:02:47 PM

rwoody
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I don’t take issue with those saying she shouldn't speed through a residential area but it’s not my cal

12/3/2021 1:49:30 PM

quiksilver
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I also wouldn’t pull over a police officer and tell him to not speed on a call. He likely knows the law better than I. Can I judge him for doing off duty sure. But I don’t know his profession better than he does. Again, an unemployment question. Not a vax debate.

12/3/2021 1:59:28 PM

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I don't think you'd be getting as much shit itt if you weren't deferring to the opinion of an anti-vaxxer just because she's a medical professional. It doesn't make any sense. If you had said "I disagree with her decision, but looking for info on unemployment" this would have gone much better.

12/3/2021 2:02:59 PM

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I’m in no way defending the decision. But is what it is. Thank you daave for the thought. And giving me the thought to correct my position. I’m just looking for feedback on a question our state won’t answer and appreciate your answer. It was the she’s fucking stupid comment that stirred on my defense that despite the non vax stance I think she is hardly “fucking stupid.”

[Edited on December 3, 2021 at 2:10 PM. Reason : .]

12/3/2021 2:08:34 PM

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I highly doubt any of the ~20 active users on this left-leaning website have experience being fired for not getting a mandated vaccine, especially considering a lot of the mandates haven't even gone into effect yet. What are you expecting with this thread?

12/3/2021 2:24:48 PM

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Cops is a great analogy, they have 6 months and they ARE the law. Asshole cops speed unnecessarily all the time.

The pharmacist should be deciding your medical care, your Dr should

12/3/2021 2:26:50 PM

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I agree still not going to tell em their business. And she gives shots all day and doesn’t opine to patients to her or their choice on being vaxed. Can we make this not a pharmacist, dr vax thread as I’ve asked many times and make it more about my original multiple restated question?

12/3/2021 2:40:43 PM

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No, I gave my answer to your question now I've moved on. You are free to ignore us!

12/3/2021 3:10:51 PM

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To answer the question, I don’t think she can file unemployment if she is fired

12/3/2021 3:27:04 PM

rwoody
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That's alread been said a few times, he wants to argue about it just wants us to think he doesn't

And actually that answer isn't totally accurate you can 100% get unemployment for being fired, that's the main way. Just not fired for cause.

[Edited on December 3, 2021 at 3:33 PM. Reason : E]

12/3/2021 3:29:44 PM

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Thank you. TwW has been more helpful even through the flaming than Jazzmin at NC unemployment or google.

12/3/2021 3:29:44 PM

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It wasn’t said a few times. It was said with confidence by daaave and an I think of two maybe nots. Followed by your trolling and constantly yanking the steering wheel while offering nothing but your opinion that she doesn’t deserve unemployment, is an idiot and should not apply.

12/3/2021 3:43:44 PM

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"You don't get unemployment when fired for cause oh, my company doesn't give any kind of severance either

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12/3/2021 4:00:34 PM

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And where does not provided Hippa protected information fall under “cause”. I’m sorry you can’t wrap your simpleton head around the crux of this. Please, you have nothing to add. I know all of that.

12/3/2021 4:03:19 PM

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There are states and federal agencies appealing the requirement for employers to require vax. So it’s a gray area hence I’m looking for real life experience.

12/3/2021 4:05:21 PM

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If your company says do something legal and you don't do it and they fire you, that's cause you fucking weirdo

[Edited on December 3, 2021 at 4:15 PM. Reason : Hippa]

12/3/2021 4:14:45 PM

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It’s being debated if it legal you fucking troll moron and even our unemployment office can’t say for sure. Their answer was they have to get fired first before they give a ruling. The person is actually considering early retirement after a long hard career. Just stop. Thank you for bumping my thread but I’ve heard your opinion and like the normal shits I take I’m ready to flush you down after wiping my ass with you. You have provided me nothing but being the asshole your post history shows it to be. Just fuck off. You have nothing to offer. I’m sorry someone hurt you.

[Edited on December 3, 2021 at 4:21 PM. Reason : .]

12/3/2021 4:20:36 PM

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Lmao I had posted 3 times in this thread before today. And thanks for checking my post history! Love my fans.


Always fun when someone gets insanely angry and then asks who hurt the other person.

If you know so much why are you asking us? What about a college message board with 10 active users made you think your question would be answered? There are 100 subreddits that would have been sympathetic to your plight.

Your own fault for not knowing your audience




Wait wait wait, you wipe your ass with your own shits?


[Edited on December 3, 2021 at 4:30 PM. Reason : Lol]

12/3/2021 4:28:31 PM

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[Edited on December 3, 2021 at 4:30 PM. Reason : E]

12/3/2021 4:29:48 PM

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Stop posting troll. You never firmly answered my question with real life experience. All I have asked for and you keep diverting my purpose of trying to help someone. With your persona I’m sure you have a hard time comprehending that. I hoped to find someone that may have been in the same situation since a call to the regulatory agency wasn’t fruitful. Believe me I looked elsewhere first because TWW isn’t what it once was but please take your douchebag comments back to chit chat where they belong JR

12/3/2021 4:37:09 PM

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You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?

12/3/2021 4:42:27 PM

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I was referring to him as the shit on my toilet paper. Reread. Irrelevant. If you don’t have something to add please go back to CC and troll. But I can see the ambiguity. Ha

[Edited on December 3, 2021 at 4:49 PM. Reason : .]

12/3/2021 4:47:14 PM

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" Wait wait wait, you wipe your ass with your own shits?"


Prob immune to a lot of viruses if done regularly tbf

12/3/2021 4:48:24 PM

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