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Is tcu coached by Dave Doeren?? Wtf with those two running plays

9/2/2023 3:39:47 PM

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You thought coach prime talk was out of hand before? Just wait!

9/2/2023 3:45:38 PM

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So Travis Hunter seems incredibly legit. But how sustainable is it to keep playing both sides of the ball? 100+ snaps in a game!

9/2/2023 3:59:24 PM

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^^dude caught a lot of shit on the off-season, he’s allowed to

9/2/2023 4:34:54 PM

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He caught a lot of shit for being kind of a jerk and talking so much shit. I’m guessing he’s gonna keep catching shit because some people find him easy to dislike.

9/2/2023 6:11:07 PM

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BC lost to fucking NIU today.

But at least future ACC members have stepped up.

9/2/2023 6:12:16 PM

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Fellas I thought when football season started I would spend LESS time on Saturday nights cheering for cocks, life comes at you fast!

9/2/2023 8:21:04 PM

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Leary, finley and Carter had ok games. Sumo seems like he didn't get many snaps.

9/2/2023 11:48:47 PM

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UNC's defense looked pretty good, can't all be SC's shitty o-line

9/3/2023 12:51:56 AM

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another ACC win over the overrated SEC. all that TV money can't buy talent.

9/3/2023 10:47:37 PM

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~30 less plays each game on average. Same length of time. More commercials. Yuck

9/4/2023 7:28:26 AM

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I'd be interested to see game times by broadcast network.

9/4/2023 8:08:36 AM

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^^ 30? I’ve seen this:

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" how the new clock rules have impacted the games so far this college football season:

2022:
•plays per game: 131
•drives per game: 24.0
•plays per drive: 5.50

2023:
•plays per game: 117
•drives per game: 21.7
•plays per drive: 5.40"


@tejfbanalytics (no clue who he is or if he knows anything).

But I’ve seen all kinds of numbers thrown around on Twitter but this tweet is about the only one I’ve seen that actually had real numbers. Others were just estimates and/or based on a couple of teams and games.

14 plays per game based on this. They estimated in the off-season that it would be 6-7 plays. But yea the commercials are a major issue.

[Edited on September 4, 2023 at 8:23 AM. Reason : A]

9/4/2023 8:21:40 AM

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"Doeren pointed out that there are 15 fewer plays per game due to the NCAA's pace of play rule change.

He said there were still 16 TV timeouts.

"I think it's sad.""

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"Dave Doeren is not a fan of the new clock rules.

"We had four TV timeouts per quarter; 16 television timeouts in our game. We're going to be excited about that and take football out of the game. I think it's sad that's what's happened, but it's the way it goes." "


[Edited on September 4, 2023 at 1:05 PM. Reason : E]

9/4/2023 12:59:59 PM

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Less plays per game, Imo, isn’t a huge problem. 4+ hours games is the real problem. The clock rules will help game time, but the TV timeouts are the main issue.

Lesser teams will be able to use the clock rules to their advantage to keep games close and increase upset odds. Sorta like in the nfl how almost every game is a 1 possession game in the 4th Q.

But the commercial breaks is what’s infuriating. As a television product, it is hard to watch. I’m tuning into State games no matter what, so I’ll put up with commercials. But when watching a game as a neutral observer, it fucking sucks. NFL is much better at keeping things a tidy 3 hours.

9/4/2023 1:11:23 PM

rwoody
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I was about to say as a casual fan, nfl commercials helped turn me off. The worst example in the NFL is the commercial-kickoff-commercial sequence they would do. Not even a real play to speak of bw commercials.

9/4/2023 1:37:06 PM

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I don’t know the breakdown of NFL commercials vs College. But nfl feels better as a viewer although I could be wrong. But maybe it’s just the length of games and tidiness of it all. 1 pm games end. 4 pm games start. Like clock work pretty much every week. College is all over the place with games at 11, 12, 12:30, 2, 3:30. 6, 6:30, 7, 7:30, 8, etc. So games all end at different points during the day, not flowing as smoothly into the next game. Obviously some of that is quantity of games and channels. Much easier to keep a tight schedule when there’s fewer total games each week.

[Edited on September 4, 2023 at 2:18 PM. Reason : Style of play matters a great deal too, and there’s more variance in style in college ]

9/4/2023 2:17:41 PM

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"Sorta like in the nfl how almost every game is a 1 possession game in the 4th Q."


I mean NFL games are close because the talent level is much more equal across teams in the NFL. Has nothing to do with timeouts or game length and everything to do with a salary cap and a draft

9/4/2023 10:21:05 PM

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of course Clemson is kind of ass now that there are no divisions

shame they let DJ U leave, he had 5 touchdowns on Saturday for Oregon State

9/4/2023 11:03:38 PM

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Fuck Dabo

9/4/2023 11:15:59 PM

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Turns out DJ wasn't the problem!

9/4/2023 11:21:12 PM

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always a fan of Dabo losing

should’ve gone to the NFL while he could’ve

9/4/2023 11:45:47 PM

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" I mean NFL games are close because the talent level is much more equal across teams in the NFL. Has nothing to do with timeouts or game length and everything to do with a salary cap and a draft
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Yes.

The clock rules also limit possessions (compared to college games) which keeps games closer. I’m not saying clock rules are the primary reason for close nfl games. But it is one factor that contributes.

Fuck Clemson though, lol. ^ why should he have gone to the nfl? He makes $10M+…that’s probably more than he’d make in the nfl.

[Edited on September 5, 2023 at 6:09 AM. Reason : G]

9/5/2023 6:07:57 AM

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the same reason other top coaches in college go the NFL

9/5/2023 10:30:13 AM

justinh524
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NFL coaches get paid a shit ton and don't have to work year round recruiting and shit

9/5/2023 10:39:20 AM

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"Fuck Clemson though, lol. ^ why should he have gone to the nfl? He makes $10M+…that’s probably more than he’d make in the nfl."



Lol Matt Rhule is owed like 75million from the Panthers

9/5/2023 10:47:42 AM

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Rhule’s salary was $8.5M. Dabo’s currently getting more than that. Dudes like Sean Payton and Belichick get paid way more obviously. I don’t like Clemson and Dabo is annoying as hell. I get that NFL coaches don’t have to recruit. But it’s not like he would’ve gotten a giant raise to go to the NFL.

From a quick Google search Rhule’s buyout was like $40M and Dabo’s current buyout is over $60M.

He has more job security at Clemson than he would in the NFL and the money doesn’t seem way different.

I guess I’m just an asshole and nitpicking but to say “he should’ve gone to the NFL when he had the chance” makes it sound like Clemson is about to fire him. Which doesn’t really seem to be the case. I dunno. I found it to be an odd statement.

[Edited on September 5, 2023 at 12:20 PM. Reason : A]

9/5/2023 12:15:30 PM

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just another way of saying he should’ve struck while the iron was hot and in no way was trying to imply that Clemson is about to fire him

9/5/2023 12:27:21 PM

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Fair enough. I was nitpicking and reading too much into it. Sorry.

Fuck Clemson.

9/5/2023 1:08:33 PM

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Fuck Clemson

Fuck Dabo

9/5/2023 2:47:10 PM

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https://twitter.com/BCFootballFans/status/1700599211677417482
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"Holy Cross student section is holding strong during the rain delay and their fans are now running on our field and mooning the few remaining BC fans in attendance. This perfectly sums up the current state of affairs at Boston College. ????"

9/9/2023 4:29:17 PM

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This guy's getting fired
https://twitter.com/nocontextcfb/status/1700636933091958911

9/9/2023 8:47:07 PM

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Quality clock management by App at the end of regulation. Save your opponent 20s by kicking your FG quickly, then call TO after sacking their QB on the first play of the ensuing drive.

9/9/2023 11:43:57 PM

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^^ lmao jfc

9/10/2023 4:08:43 AM

Kickstand
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I'm looking forward to a USC-UGA title game.

9/10/2023 5:27:33 AM

dmspack
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Jesus Christ, Mel Tucker.

9/10/2023 8:20:14 AM

rwoody
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"finley and Carter had ok games. Sumo seems like he didn't get many snaps."


Finley benched, Carter hurt, sumo 0 counting stats (vs eastern Kentucky)

9/10/2023 11:26:31 AM

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Is....is...nick saban....cool??
https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1702698503770693723

9/15/2023 1:33:28 PM

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I can't believe another team would bench Finley!

[Edited on September 15, 2023 at 1:51 PM. Reason : I bet they're pissed he still has 2 more years of eligibility ]

9/15/2023 1:49:54 PM

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another Colorado game that did not disappoint

9/17/2023 2:25:50 AM

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That was the most entertaining game of foosball I've ever seen.

9/17/2023 12:56:02 PM

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guess you’re new to the sport?

9/17/2023 8:47:35 PM

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Colorado is absolutely getting railed by Oregon and USC

9/18/2023 10:23:46 AM

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^Maybe, but based on the past few years I am sure they will take it. They won 1 game last season. Love Deion or hate him the man has people paying attention to Colorado football.

9/18/2023 10:33:50 AM

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^^^ guess you're pot committed to being a dick on the internet for the rest of your life.

9/18/2023 10:57:02 PM

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Not totally unwarranted, but still excessive

[Edited on September 18, 2023 at 11:10 PM. Reason : And kinda confusing, is he a druggie or what?]

9/18/2023 11:09:04 PM

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I don’t know that that game wouldn’t crack the Top 50 of most entertaining games of all time, and that’s just college

[Edited on September 19, 2023 at 12:51 AM. Reason : which is why I asked if you were new to the sport]

9/19/2023 12:50:28 AM

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if that game would even crack the Top 50*

9/19/2023 5:42:57 PM

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"~30 less plays each game on average. Same length of time. More commercials. Yuck"


So it’s actually more like 2 plays per game. Game length is mostly unchanged but we’ve also had weather delays which do get counted so that number might drop as the season goes on and weather delays are less frequent. So basically there’s no real difference.

https://sportsenthusiasts.net/2023/09/04/are-the-new-rules-shortening-college-football-games/

9/21/2023 11:20:05 AM

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Do we want Clemson or FSU to win?

9/23/2023 2:44:40 PM

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