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^^^ He's no David Amerson.

[Edited on December 7, 2023 at 4:10 AM. Reason : Watts...IB CB vs Safety]

12/7/2023 4:06:46 AM

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Butkus!!

12/7/2023 9:09:26 AM

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"Btw he lost Nagurski to ND safety Watts. Counting stats are prob a bad metric for awards but the counting stats don't paint a pretty picture."


The other reason using defensive stats is hard is because sometimes a dude is so good they just don't throw his way. I haven't watched enough ND football this year to know if that's the case or not, just throwing it out there

12/7/2023 10:02:43 AM

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No it's bullshit!! Jk that's a fair point.

12/7/2023 11:06:23 AM

rayef3rw
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And now Bednarik!

12/8/2023 7:30:29 PM

rwoody
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Just like I said, Nagurski voters are ASSholes

[Edited on December 8, 2023 at 8:23 PM. Reason : Seems like he will be ring of honor now right? ]

12/8/2023 8:22:21 PM

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Yeah i would expect that. 1st team all-american + national award winner + acc dpoy.

Pretty impressive for a guy who was the 3rd best linebacker on the team last year.

12/8/2023 8:49:29 PM

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Wait

This guy won the ….


butt kiss award?

12/9/2023 6:54:22 AM

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39072104/lsu-daniels-nc-state-wilson-top-college-football-awards

They ghost edited the headline to say Daniels and Penix.

12/9/2023 12:43:21 PM

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Andrew Carter gave him a 3rd place Heisman vote

I wonder how many Maye got

[Edited on December 9, 2023 at 9:38 PM. Reason : Claims to have anyway ]

12/9/2023 9:38:02 PM

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Carter probably put Maye as his 1st place vote

12/9/2023 11:10:34 PM

dmspack
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I realize this is a Payton Wilson thread but…speaking of Heisman votes, Luke DeCock didn’t have Jayden Daniels in his top 3 lol. I don’t get it.

[Edited on December 10, 2023 at 6:17 AM. Reason : And neither did Andrew Carter lol]

12/10/2023 6:16:53 AM

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Yes because they are idiots

12/10/2023 9:38:46 AM

dmspack
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Yes they are

12/10/2023 12:11:16 PM

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they aren’t idiots

it’s possible to disagree with someone without calling them an idiot

12/10/2023 12:49:40 PM

justinh524
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I disagree with you and don't think you're an idiot

12/10/2023 1:03:39 PM

dmspack
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Not having Jayden Daniels on your top 3 is pretty idiotic imo

12/10/2023 8:05:29 PM

justinh524
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Right? The guy threw for 40 TDs and ran for 10 more. In a major conference. People are acting like he doesn't deserve it, when in all honesty the vote should have been a landslide in his favor.

12/10/2023 8:46:33 PM

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Feels like the only reason it wasn’t a landslide was because LSU was 9-3 and the voters are just trained to think it’s gotta go to a player on a 12-0 or 11-1 team.

12/10/2023 9:22:10 PM

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or maybe they voted for players they saw more of?

again, totally ok to disagree with a vote, but calling the voter an idiot is just fuckin’ lame/lazy

12/10/2023 9:32:09 PM

justinh524
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It isn't based solely on their heisman vote

12/10/2023 9:39:19 PM

thegoodlife3
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idiots struggle to form a coherent thought, let alone an argument

I disagree with nearly everything George Will has ever written, but I’d never call him an idiot

words lose meaning if you throw them out just to throw them out

12/10/2023 9:59:55 PM

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Daniels deserved the Heisman based on his gaudy stats, but he also got to play the likes of Grambling, GA State, and Army.

12/10/2023 10:03:09 PM

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why wasn't Jordan Travis a Heisman finalist? After all, his loss singlehandedly caused an undefeated power 5 champion to drop out of the CFP

12/10/2023 10:13:03 PM

thegoodlife3
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that’s exactly why Andrew Carter gave Travis his first place vote

12/10/2023 10:23:05 PM

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I never want to see another insult on this website unless it's had it's accuracy checked by a reputable fact checking organization.

12/10/2023 11:14:57 PM

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https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina-state/Article/nc-state-wolfpack-football-payton-wilson-day-mayor-mary-ann-baldwin-raleigh-223500563/

(and the chuds saying they lost all respect for Payton since he's not playing in the Bowl)

12/19/2023 2:51:24 PM

thegoodlife3
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wish he could’ve gotten it without her being involved

12/19/2023 2:57:14 PM

Kickstand
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Don't journalists normally put a (D) or (R) beside a politicians name?

PP probably isn't journalism.

12/19/2023 3:04:50 PM

dmspack
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Has Wilson said he’s not playing in the bowl game?

12/19/2023 4:25:45 PM

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^I thought I'd read that he had decided not to, but apparently I made that up, still says he's undecided. But I'd almost be a little disappointed if he actually did, too risky for him. I think I'd be worried for him on every play.

12/19/2023 4:51:02 PM

justinh524
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Eh he's not risking a ton. In all likelihood he's not going to be a terribly high pick based mostly on his vast injury history.

12/19/2023 10:50:42 PM

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Yeah he's probably a 4th or 5th round guy, due to age, and health

12/19/2023 11:10:28 PM

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^,^^ yeah, if he doesn't break his collar bone in a Bowl gaame

12/20/2023 9:15:27 AM

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Also due to playing off-ball linebacker, which is not a highly valued position in the NFL

What if he breaks his collar bone while walking down the street? Basically i think his significant history of shoulder injuries is more relevant to his draft stock than any injury theoretically occurring in a bowl game. Like if he breaks his collarbone, it's not going to drastically alter where he's drafted because he's not going to be a first round pick.

12/20/2023 9:15:47 AM

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https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina-state/article/payton-wilson-nfl-draft-nc-state-2024-senior-bowl-daniel-jeremiah-226380983/

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"Former Wolfpack linebacker Payton Wilson has been listed inside the Top 50 for the 2024 NFL Draft by one of the most respected draft analysts in the country."

1/30/2024 3:32:16 PM

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Pretty cool that Wilson was invited to the combine so that he can prove once and for all that dmspack is a hater

2/14/2024 8:26:57 AM

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He’s gonna be clocked as the fastest man alive at the combine and boy am I gonna be EXPOSED as a hater

2/14/2024 10:44:21 AM

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^
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https://packinsider.com/2024/02/29/will-payton-wilson-be-one-of-the-fastest-linebackers-in-the-history-of-the-nfl-combine/

2/29/2024 12:27:55 PM

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PI!!!???

2/29/2024 1:22:47 PM

justinh524
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SMH dude has some short arms and small hands. Definitely not getting drafted now

2/29/2024 4:00:10 PM

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Just ran a 4.44 40 at the combine. Fastest LB speed so far.

2/29/2024 7:25:32 PM

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" Yesterday, on the podium at the Combine, Wilson said that he wanted to be “one of the most athletic” Linebackers to every come through the combine."

2/29/2024 7:43:47 PM

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"If you have a 40-yard dash time, divide it into 80 to get an approximate miles per hour speed. So, if you have a 5 second 40-yard dash, you are going about 16 mph. If you have an 8 second 40-yard dash, you are going about 10 mph."


80/4.44 = 18

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

2/29/2024 7:53:03 PM

dmspack
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Pads make him faster

2/29/2024 8:23:54 PM

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2/29/2024 8:24:45 PM

Kickstand
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Not a fair comparison. Kuechly didn't have access to 2024 sports science and modern training technology.

2/29/2024 9:01:18 PM

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can't tell if serious

2/29/2024 9:33:10 PM

Kickstand
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not serious

2/29/2024 10:20:37 PM

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