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Almost one month until defending World Cup champs Argentina kick off Copa America against Canada in Atlanta. How deep can the USMNT go in this tourney in front of home crowds with the South American giants involved? A top two finish in the group stage looks probable. Reaching the final, however, won't be easy unless Brazil and Argentina land on the other side of the knockout bracket. Charlotte hosts a semifinal match and the third place match.

Group A: Argentina, Peru, Chile, Canada
Group B: Mexico, Ecuador, Venezuela, Jamaica
Group C: USA, Uruguay, Panama, Bolivia
Group D: Brazil, Colombia, Paraguay, Costa Rica

2024 Copa America: Schedule, dates
Dates: June 20 - July 14, 2024

Group A
June 20: Argentina vs Canada - Mercedez-Benz Stadium, Atlanta
June 21: Peru vs Chile - AT&T Stadium, Dallas
June 25: Chile vs Argentina - MetLife Stadium, New York/New Jersey
June 25: Peru vs Canada - Children’s Mercy Park, Kansas City
June 29: Argentina vs Peru - Hard Rock Stadium, Miami
June 29: Canada vs Chile - Exploria Stadium, Orlando

Group B
June 22: Mexico vs Jamaica - NRG Stadium, Houston
June 22: Ecuador vs Venezuela - Levi’s Stadium, Santa Clara
June 26: Venezuela vs Mexico - SoFi Stadium - Los Angeles
June 26: Ecuador vs Jamaica - Allegiant Stadium, Las Vegas
June 30: Mexico vs Ecuador - State Farm Stadium, Phoenix
June 30: Jamaica vs Venezuela - Q2 Stadium, Austin

Group C
June 23: USA vs Bolivia - AT&T Stadium, Dallas
June 23: Uruguay vs Panama - Hard Rock Stadium, Miami
June 27: Panama vs USA - Mercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta
June 27: Uruguay vs Bolivia - MetLife Stadium, New York/New Jersey
July 1: USA vs Uruguay - Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City
July 1: Bolivia vs Panama - Exploria Stadium, Orlando

Group D
June 24: Brazil vs Costa Rica - SoFi Stadium, Los Angeles
June 24: Colombia vs Paraguay - NRG Stadium, Houston
June 28: Paraguay vs Brazil - Allegiant Stadium, Las Vegas
June 28: Colombia vs Costa Rica - State Farm Stadium, Phoenix
July 2: Brazil vs Colombia - Levi’s Stadium, Santa Clara
July 2: Costa Rica vs Paraguay - Q2 Stadium, Austin

Quarterfinals
Match 25 - July 4: Winner Group A vs Runner up Group B - NRG Stadium, Houston
Match 26 - July 5: Winner Group B vs Runner up Group A - AT&T Stadium, Dallas
Match 27 - July 6: Winner Group C vs Runner up Group D - Allegiant Stadium, Las Vegas
Match 28 - July 6: Winner Group D vs Runner up Group C - State Farm Stadium, Phoenix

Semifinals
Match 29 - July 9: Winner Match 25 vs Winner Match 26 - MetLife Stadium, New York/New Jersey
Match 30 - July 10: Winner Match 27 vs Winner Match 28 - Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte

Third-place
Match 31 - July 13: Loser Match 29 vs Loser Match 30 - Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte

Final
Match 32 - July 14: Winner Match 29 vs Winner Match 30 - Hard Rock Stadium, Miami

5/16/2024 11:54:48 AM

Bullet
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I am excite

5/16/2024 12:27:15 PM

HaLo
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Best quality football BofA stadium will see all year

5/16/2024 12:43:34 PM

Wolfey
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The Dest injury concerns me. That position is not full of proven depth and GGG is not very willing to try newer unproven players.

GK is also a concern with Turner not playing at all for Forest.

The Panama match will be pivotal.

5/16/2024 12:48:10 PM

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Ready for this to start. Is our realistic goal getting out of the group stage, like World Cups?

5/18/2024 10:13:28 AM

heelfan
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I'd say semis is more realistic this time because we're the host and there are fewer elite teams than in a WC. No France, Spain, Italy, Germany, etc.

5/18/2024 6:43:20 PM

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Berhalter has named his roster for the Copa America warm-ups against Colombia and Brazil. Any noteworthy absences?

Quote :
"GOALKEEPERS (3)
Ethan Horvath - Cardiff City
Sean Johnson - Toronto FC
Matt Turner - Nottingham Forest

DEFENDERS (9)
Cameron Carter-Vickers - Celtic
Kristoffer Lund - Palermo
Mark McKenzie - Genk
Shaq Moore - Nashville SC
Tim Ream - Fulham
Chris Richards - Crystal Palace
Antonee Robinson - Fulham
Miles Robinson - FC Cincinnati
Joe Scally - Borussia Mönchengladbach

MIDFIELDERS (8)
Tyler Adams - Bournemouth
Johnny Cardoso - Real Betis
Luca de la Torre - Celta de Vigo
Weston McKennie - Juventus
Yunus Musah - AC Milan
Gio Reyna - Nottingham Forest
Malik Tillman - PSV Eindhoven
Timothy Tillman - LAFC

FORWARDS (7)
Brenden Aaronson - Union Berlin
Folarin Balogun - Monaco
Ricardo Pepi - PSV Eindhoven
Christian Pulisic - AC Milan
Josh Sargent - Norwich City
Tim Weah - Juventus
Haji Wright - Coventry City

June friendlies
June 8 vs. Colombia - 5:30 pm ET (TNT, Telemundo, Universo, Max, Peacock) | Commanders Field - Landover, Maryland
June 12 vs. Brazil - 7 pm ET (TNT, Telemundo, Universo, Max, Peacock) | Camping World Stadium - Orlando, Florida"

5/22/2024 3:40:53 PM

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Well considering GGG's love of MLS players Walker Zimmerman would probably be the most notable, but minus the players that are injured it looks pretty on par.

5/23/2024 4:24:55 PM

heelfan
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$Texas

Quote :
"This summer's Copa América is set to distribute a record $72 million in participation fees and prize money to the tournament's teams, with the winner getting $16m, sources told ESPN."

5/25/2024 7:31:08 PM

heelfan
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Glad I missed today's game. 1-5 vs Colombia!? Not a good omen.

6/8/2024 8:52:39 PM

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Matt Turner and the CB's were awful today. Not sure how much longer you can keep Turner as your number 1. Its clear his confidence is gone.

6/11/2024 3:19:39 PM

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I am excite

6/20/2024 12:59:51 PM

heelfan
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Really, Tim Weah? Only Zlatan can get away with stuff like that.

6/27/2024 7:44:52 PM

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WTF Weah, such a jackass move

6/27/2024 8:48:05 PM

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Insane lack of discipline.

How were there only 4 min added on at the end?? That penalty var review was 4 min alone

[Edited on June 27, 2024 at 9:20 PM. Reason : R]

6/27/2024 9:20:40 PM

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On the one hand this summer so far has been pretty uninspiring for probably one of the most talented generations of USMNT players.

On the other hand if we crash out US Soccer will face intense pressure to make a change at head coach, to avoid a second embarassment at the World Cup that we are hosting as well.

Weah probably should face some time away from the starting XI after that idiocy last night. 4 Minutes of stoppage time was a farce and the lack of a booking on the Panamanian player that knew what he was doing in his collision that injured Turner.

6/28/2024 9:41:36 AM

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Yea that ref in general didn't seem like he had control of the game

6/28/2024 9:49:20 AM

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Pretty sure he reffed the US-Mexico Nations League game last year in which 4 players were shown red. He loses control quite regularly.

6/28/2024 10:31:47 AM

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Ref was terrible (should have been a penalty for pulisic and a yellow shown on the gk collision at absolute minimum), but this was the same uninspiring play from the US since Greggggggg has been back.

It can be both true that Tim Weah absolutely fucked us with that stupid ass punch, but also true that we still should have beaten Panama down a man when we get an absolute banger of a goal from Balogun in transition.

Gregg is fuckin terrible man. We are down a man and not only does this dimwit decide to bunker against freakin Panama, but he takes out our best transition striker to put in Pepi at the same time. So either attempt to play them straight up down a man and put in Pepi (I'd still argue for Balo) OR bunker and play for the counter attack with Balo. You definitely don't do both.

The only silver lining for this terrible loss was that it may be the thing (because we are definitely getting grouped after it) that causes Gregg to get the boot prior to the most important WC for the USMNT ever.

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"On the one hand this summer so far has been pretty uninspiring for probably one of the most talented generations of USMNT players.

On the other hand if we crash out US Soccer will face intense pressure to make a change at head coach, to avoid a second embarassment at the World Cup that we are hosting as well."


I just read you post after writing mine... YEAH! What he said!!

[Edited on June 28, 2024 at 3:27 PM. Reason : d]

6/28/2024 3:26:41 PM

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Weah should be benched for 5 games for such a stupid move.

6/29/2024 7:05:01 AM

HaLo
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Down goes Mexico

6/30/2024 10:03:00 PM

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Mexico has enough longterm pedigree to control the game (and they did), but they have no players who can create something in the final third. They don't have anyone that can dominate physically (via speed or physicality). Honestly, watching how absolutely mid Mexico is right now from a talent standpoint pisses me off that we are about to be in the same place as them in this tournament AND our wins against them are really the only thing that anyone could point to in order to defend Gregg's record.

7/1/2024 8:43:23 AM

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tonight is going to be a blood bath.

7/1/2024 11:00:07 AM

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does a L get gregggg fired?

7/1/2024 4:26:14 PM

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Has anyone else felt fox coverage had been terrible as well? Only one terrible replay on that early challenge on Reyna? Feel like we only saw the weah punch on the referees var box secondhand.

[Edited on July 1, 2024 at 9:25 PM. Reason : Lol replay of a free kick, giant jenny Taft graphic over the box]

[Edited on July 1, 2024 at 9:35 PM. Reason : Adams gets stomped and gets a yellow, cool]

[Edited on July 1, 2024 at 9:37 PM. Reason : Massive stadium, no room for throw ins, camera on roof]

[Edited on July 1, 2024 at 9:45 PM. Reason : Oh lol they don't even have control of the feed ]

[Edited on July 1, 2024 at 9:49 PM. Reason : This ref worse than the last my god]

7/1/2024 9:22:46 PM

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This ref is terrible

Looking forward to +1 at the end of the half

7/1/2024 9:52:35 PM

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now getting the basics of officiating wrong. It’s so frustrating

7/1/2024 9:54:18 PM

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I didn’t expect this, holy god

7/1/2024 9:59:01 PM

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We've played pretty well too! Hope the ref doesn't fuck us

7/1/2024 10:11:51 PM

rwoody
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What?? How??

[Edited on July 1, 2024 at 10:32 PM. Reason : Even with var how]

7/1/2024 10:32:09 PM

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Looking like we got fucked

7/1/2024 10:34:03 PM

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What an absolute disgrace by the referee and CONMEBOL. Atrocious

7/1/2024 10:52:45 PM

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That first half sequence where he allowed Uruguay to go quickly when displaying the yellow card should disqualify him from any high level matches

7/1/2024 10:55:36 PM

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That was def the worst

The no continuation, adams yellow standout as well. I guess the var isn't directly on him.

US didn't do enough but this org should be embarrassed

[Edited on July 1, 2024 at 11:00 PM. Reason : The stoppage time ]

7/1/2024 10:58:34 PM

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As usual the USA has next to no offense. Don’t even feel we got close to scoring.

7/1/2024 11:12:54 PM

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If Berhalter isn't sacked after this tournament performance (and he probably won't be), then we simply aren't even attempting to be a serious footballing nation. It's a shame.

We can't get out of a group with Panama and Bolivia. I suppose it shouldn't be a surprise since we barely qualified for the WC on GD after tying for third in CONCACAF. To watch our obviously talented, but probably overrated players not be put in positions to succeed again and again is infuriating.

I want to spread the love a bit, though. Weston came into camp overweight, Weah had one of the most boneheaded red cards I have seen since Dest in the Nation's league. Turner cannot be our GK for the WC... he is still awful with his feet and has become an average ball stopper since his move to the PL and being out of form.

7/2/2024 8:54:43 AM

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And I thought the officiating in UEFA was bad. What is the point of VAR if you are gonna ignore it? USA absolutely robbed.

7/2/2024 10:03:44 AM

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Yeah, terrible call.... among a ton of others. Didn't matter. A draw wasn't going to put us through. We didn't really even have any close chances to score.

7/2/2024 10:18:14 AM

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Yea, us not getting close to the other net, that's all that matters. We are absolutely awful on the offensive side of the ball.

7/2/2024 10:20:03 AM

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I agree that the offense has to be better. We had two great chances with the ball in the box and the goalie out of position where we didn't capitalize.

But there were also plenty of calls, non-calls, and no cards that hurt our offense too. I remember multiple fouls in our attacking 1/3 that should have been yellows that were either not called or not carded. Balogun being pulled down by the neck of his jersey is the first one that comes to mind. It seemed like every chance we had in the first half Uruguay would pull us down when they were beat and they got away with it. If the ref had been giving out yellows, maybe the game goes a little differently.

7/2/2024 1:55:12 PM

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Did the ref face any repercussions after that shit-show?

7/3/2024 10:02:31 AM

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^They never face any repercussions. The governing body always just shrugs their shoulders, says "lol sorry" then it happens again next week. That is probably the biggest reason why it happens so often. Maybe if the refs started getting fines or something, they'd think twice before making such bad calls.

7/3/2024 10:09:23 AM

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Well that sucks. I admittedly don't watch a lot of soccer, mainly just a lot during the Copa/Euro/World Cup, but that was definitely egregious. Obvious offsides, but the worst was that yellow-card/play-on. I can't see how he wasn't reprimanded for that.

Oh, and the hand-ball, waiting to see if there was advantage, and then stopping play after obvious advantage.

[Edited on July 3, 2024 at 10:27 AM. Reason : ]

7/3/2024 10:20:31 AM

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Rondon goal is wild

7/5/2024 10:43:39 PM

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Yesterdays euro and copa basically led me to think international knockout round soccer is just a bad product. Teams already don't have enough time together to develop real chemistry or practice unique tactics, then if the game is tied late in a knockout round the coaches seem to get super conservative, presumably bc if they lose in open play the figure they'll get the blame whereas if it goes to penalties the players get the blame.

7/7/2024 11:57:53 AM

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I've watched more copa than euro, but it seems the physicality that is being allowed is definitely making the game uglier and more to blame for the bad product. That's pretty typical for CONMEBOL, but it is out of control this year. It's actually stunning that more players aren't out injured.

The Germany/Spain game had that feel as well--although cards were being handed out like candy.

I tend to think of the difference between international/top leagues as similar to the difference between NBA and college in basketball. In the international game, you have watered down talent, perhaps a heightened atmosphere which creates more defensive urgency, and less sophisticated tactics.

[Edited on July 8, 2024 at 9:54 AM. Reason : d]

7/8/2024 9:53:59 AM

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Exceptional players like Foden and Ronaldo look average at the Euros. Is it the lack of team chemistry or the more aggressive defense?

7/9/2024 9:43:52 AM

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Can't tell if joking

7/9/2024 9:53:58 AM

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I’ve been a casual watcher of Copa and Euro so take this with a grain of salt.

The level of skill isn’t close, the European countries are way more skilled than the Copa countries

The fans in the US/Copa are sad compared to the German/Euro fan base. Every Copa game I’ve seen before the semis has half empty crowds. The Euro stadiums have been deafening since the group stages

Soccer players flop around the world but no one flops like the Copa countries

All in, I’m bored watching the Copa tourney. The Euros are where it’s at without question

[Edited on July 9, 2024 at 9:34 PM. Reason : Fgh]

7/9/2024 9:33:35 PM

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^^okay, replace Ronaldo with Mbappe

7/10/2024 5:33:41 AM

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