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emnsk
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I'm starting to really like her.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-06-25/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-backs-biden-in-shift-towards-center

6/26/2024 9:53:08 AM

qntmfred
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who?

6/26/2024 9:59:25 AM

emnsk
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you

6/26/2024 10:12:22 AM

The Coz
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qntmfred = AOC, EXPOSED?!

6/26/2024 12:30:54 PM

moron
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She’s awesome. BUTTIGIEG/AOC is my dream ticket even if the two are a little misaligned ideologically

6/26/2024 3:55:32 PM

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She can be a bit annoying... like when she got in that argument with MTG on the House Floor and she called her "Baby Girl"

6/26/2024 4:12:53 PM

emnsk
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^^
I prefer old people. I don't think I could handle the tiktoks in that situation

^
Lmao... don't worry, when I get elected I will represent you with an appropriate poise and demeanor

6/26/2024 10:54:56 PM

StTexan
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I wouldn't mind having a dream with AOC

6/27/2024 12:10:47 AM

emnsk
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she's an engineer, so use that diploma bro

[Edited on June 27, 2024 at 11:05 AM. Reason : 1]

6/27/2024 11:05:10 AM

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"She attended Yorktown High School and later Boston University, where she double-majored in international relations and economics, graduating cum laude."

Not an engineer. And only cum laude?!

6/27/2024 11:21:17 PM

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She has nice boobs. Aside from that...uhhhhh.

6/27/2024 11:41:23 PM

emnsk
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^^ I guess I'm just confused

6/28/2024 12:20:12 AM

StTexan
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^^she has a nice face...for me to skeet on

6/28/2024 12:23:30 AM

emnsk
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wtf dude

6/28/2024 12:31:17 AM

StTexan
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My b i was acting like that comic insult dog that would say something and then follow up with "for me to poop on"

6/28/2024 12:42:52 AM

emnsk
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she is pretty hot

6/28/2024 2:34:08 AM

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"The Supreme Court has become consumed by a corruption crisis beyond its control.

Today’s ruling represents an assault on American democracy. It is up to Congress to defend our nation from this authoritarian capture.

I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return."



bit extreme there

7/1/2024 3:40:31 PM

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Is it?

7/1/2024 4:02:22 PM

Bullet
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He's only a college student. Think back to your world-view as a young college student.

7/1/2024 4:23:58 PM

The Coz
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My world-view as a young college student is documented on these boards, sorry to say.

7/1/2024 7:14:30 PM

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"With less than 5 weeks until Alexandria’s primary election, AIPAC — one of the wealthiest and most influential conservative PACs in DC — is planning to spend at least $100 million to unseat her and the Squad in 2024.

This is the same group that spent $30 million in the 2022 Democratic primaries targeting progressive candidates, AND provided unconditional support to the 109 Republicans who refused to certify the 2020 presidential election.

Now, they’re targeting Alexandria this election cycle because she’s been critical of the Israeli government’s indiscriminate bombing of Palestinian civilians in Gaza.

AIPAC is going to do everything they can to oust Alexandria from Congress, and we need your help to fight back. If you can, will you contribute $10 right now to help us prepare for AIPAC’s attack ads?"

7/3/2024 11:59:16 AM

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I will not contribute $10.

7/3/2024 12:02:04 PM

emnsk
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Alexandria

7/3/2024 1:51:26 PM

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https://twitter.com/JMRaasch/status/1810444131921195110

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"AOC says she is backing Joe Biden.

‘The matter is closed,’ she said. ‘Joe Biden is our nominee.’"

7/9/2024 10:35:41 AM

moron
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Putting impeachment for corrupt judges out there

7/10/2024 7:28:30 PM

emnsk
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thomas_alito

7/10/2024 7:42:52 PM

thegoodlife3
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quite credible

8/19/2024 10:15:37 PM

emnsk
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HOLA

9/17/2024 8:51:25 PM

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is she preggers? her face looks bigger recently

11/8/2024 6:31:37 AM

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Are you British?

11/8/2024 7:43:02 AM

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https://x.com/daveweigel/status/1879268830092124323?s=46

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"I think when we tell the truth about what Republicans are doing, and when we're unafraid to do that, it generates momentum. When we lean into the momentum that we generate, and when Democrats aren't afraid to throw a damn punch, then we can see that we can yield results.

I don't believe that we should, you know, cower in the face of tough issues. I think people are looking for strength. And the reason why I think some folks in the Democratic Party have felt like trans issues are hot water, or immigration issues are hot water, is because they haven't felt confident, or the ability to confidently throw a punch on solid ground that is persuasive and uniting people. When we just show people how a bill like this doesn't just hurt trans girls, which is a problem, it hurts all girls; and when we show that a bunch of men who are letting women die in parking lots should not be trusted, it's like letting foxes into the henhouse; when we call it out aggressively, we're able to bring people together.

I think people smell blood in the water. They can understand weakness. And where they see weakness, that's when everything kind of falls apart. So we have to be strong about these things. And I think projecting strength attracts support."


this is the way

[Edited on January 14, 2025 at 4:58 PM. Reason : .]

1/14/2025 4:57:52 PM

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I generally think she's brilliant politically, but "actually we didn't chicks with dicks hard enough and need to more aggressively pursue gay porn in schools" is an interesting take.

1/14/2025 5:29:53 PM

moron
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^huh?

1/14/2025 11:58:51 PM

StTexan
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"lets double down on not winning elections"

-Dems 2028

1/15/2025 1:25:05 AM

The Coz
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Win first. Then push your unpopular social reforms about extreme edge cases.

1/15/2025 4:22:31 AM

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"I don't believe that we should, you know, cower in the face of tough issues. I think people are looking for strength. And the reason why I think some folks in the Democratic Party have felt like trans issues are hot water, or immigration issues are hot water, is because they haven't felt confident, or the ability to confidently throw a punch on solid ground that is persuasive and uniting people."


I agree with this (although i don't think throwing a punch is the best metaphor. it's not about attacking/beating people, it's about engaging in good faith with dissenting points of view). I think if the progressives in particular had done a better of job of trying to PERSUADE people to consider/adopt their perspectives on pretty much any issue rather than just shrieking about how evil anybody who doesn't agree with them is, they'd potentially have had more success. instead, they alienated a significant chunk of the country. whoops.

I agree in principle with many progressive stances (eg trans people should be allowed to live in peace being trans if that's what they want, immigrants deserve to be treated with respect and if nothing but for economic growth alone we should embrace a culture of WELCOMING immigrants), but they are SO BAD at participating in the public discourse in good faith. they rarely acknowledge let alone counter reasonable criticisms of their views (maybe it's worth actually critically examining why so many adolescent girls have decided to adopt the trans label in the last decade, and maybe female athletes have a point about it not being fair to have to compete in our mostly gender-segregated sports leagues against people with the biological advantages of being physiologically male, and economic pressures/displacement due to immigration is something that should be considered thoughtfully) so what's the point of even bothering with them if they're just going to stick their heads in the sand and bully people who don't agree with them.

and as for the more centrist/mainstream Dems who have typically supported over the last decade such progressive policies but don't really try to justify them publicly (unless they're speaking directly to the base) and help explain them to the broader public because they're too scared to have to deal with those members of the public who already REALLY don't like the ideas and are ready and eager to make the counter-arguments, not to mention also alienating the progressive base for whom nothing is ever good enough, cus then they'd have nothing to be activists about and they'd have to move on and focus on improving society via their own merit and hard work rather than just reducing injustice (perceived or actual) in the world.

2016 Bernie was pretty good about actually making the case on the things he believed and wanted to see changed. But he got captured by his base and did a poor job of LEADING them. He ended up letting the loudmouths run the show because at least progressives were finally getting attention to their causes, unlike most of his previous decades in politics.

AOC is also pretty good about unapologetically making the case for the things she believes. But she still doesn't do a good job of acknowledging or responding to legitimate criticisms of her points of view. She's had her own run-ins with the progressive base, but she still leans too hard into "her" audience, and not hard enough into talking to Americans generally. Buttigieg for example is known for going on Fox - more Dems need to take this approach. Go talk to people outside the base, and have a conversation with them about ideas instead of just moralizing and shaming everybody who doesn't already agree with you.

1/15/2025 10:11:39 AM

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEfv9APyZpL/?igsh=MWRmajM1aHhzbG96eg==

Democrats have a major communications problem. Probably doesn’t helps they don’t have a massive propaganda ecosystem like fox/oann/news max/joe Rogan coordinating directly with their major campaigns

But I saw this video on instagram where the guy basically is spelling out the mainstream democratic policies, and everyone in the comments is “finally common sense” etc

1/15/2025 2:32:48 PM

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^people that would say "finally common sense" are more likely to follow people on social media that closely align to their views, so using comments of someone on instagram isn't really all that revelatory imo

[Edited on January 15, 2025 at 7:33 PM. Reason : And your idea of mainstream dem positions is probably kind of "out there" no offense]

1/15/2025 7:32:05 PM

moron
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She just sent this out on her email list

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"OK, I want to talk a little bit about this TikTok ban (which I voted against, by the way).

Last year, when this ban came up for a vote, they said, “It's a national security issue, it’s a national security issue!” I said, “OK. That's serious.”

Let's see the case. Let's see the intelligence. Let's see what's going on.

I can tell you that what was presented to all of the Members voting on this thing was not very compelling. There was no real information that was a smoking gun or anything specific.

In fact, high ranking members on the House Foreign Affairs Committee came to me after and were pretty surprised. They were genuinely expecting there to be some real or compelling intelligence shared that would substantiate the argument. And there just wasn't.

Additionally, this bill, which is very large and substantive in terms of its impact, came to the Energy and Commerce Committee, was marked up, and then brought to the floor in a matter of just a few weeks — which is very, very fast.

Additionally, the degree to which corporations surveil the American people without genuine consent — and without real mechanisms for opting out — should be illegal. Point blank, period.

So many of us, naturally, said: The answer is not just playing endless whack-a-mole with apps.

We should have real privacy legislation in the United States. We should help people have greater agency over their personal information so that they're not being spied on all the time, whether it's a domestic company or a foreign company.

To which, of course, big tech and their lobbies are going to fight against. So they just target an app instead of targeting the problem.

And then lastly, when this thing was passed, all these legislators who supported it were like, “Oh it's not a ban, it's not a ban — it's just a forced sale!” Which, to be fair, forced sales have happened in the past (Grindr was a forced sale).

Well, they provided very little time for that to happen. For an app that big… like, who's going to buy TikTok? Hello? It's very large.

Now, here we are.

I would say that the lack of forethought and the rushed nature of this bill is now evidenced by the fact that both the Biden and Trump administrations are looking to see if there's any way to reverse or stall it.

More soon,

Alexandria"

1/19/2025 2:50:49 PM

thegoodlife3
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she is the future, and the quicker she’s thought of as the present, the better

1/19/2025 5:40:27 PM

qntmfred
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what do y'all like about her other than the fact that she's not been in congress 40 years and she's willing to talk to voters directly and publicly without constant triangulation like the olds were taught to? policy wise, is she really anything special? or is it just in comparison to the rest of the squares in the Democratic Party that she stands out?

[Edited on January 19, 2025 at 7:14 PM. Reason : future of the progressive wing, sure. future of american politics? i don't see it]

1/19/2025 7:13:45 PM

thegoodlife3
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she’s been in congress long enough to see that the status quo ain’t it, and she’s excellent at explaining her positions

1/19/2025 7:41:28 PM

emnsk
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^^^

I half agree with you, but the way you say it makes me not want to

1/19/2025 8:49:38 PM

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"the status quo ain’t it"


i mean duh. i'm not sure that's sufficient qualifications to be the future of the entire party let alone the country

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"and she’s excellent at explaining her positions"


but are they good positions? and is she only good at explaining them to people who already agree? or is she good at persuading others as well?

[Edited on January 19, 2025 at 9:40 PM. Reason : trump was good at saying the status quo wasn't it too.]

1/19/2025 9:38:12 PM

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^Those are some really good questions imo.

1/19/2025 10:24:42 PM

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i did not have her on my bingo card destroying the ADL

1/21/2025 8:01:29 AM

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Did you have the ADL defending nazi salutes on your bingo card?

1/21/2025 8:33:56 AM

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