spaced guy All American 7834 Posts user info edit comment |
i voted 4/8/2002 3:05:09 PM |
nothing22 All American 21537 Posts user info edit comment |
whoa whoa whoa...he mocks us? i mean, mocks us? what kind of person (candidate) ignores what is most likely the best way to get student input? does anyone have a quote from Mikey featured on TWW? 4/8/2002 3:22:38 PM |
BelowMe All American 3150 Posts user info edit comment |
i voted mike 4/8/2002 3:24:50 PM |
jsquared All American 15944 Posts user info edit comment |
i do not like mike nor do i like his elitist "i am better than you because i am in SG" attitude. i did not so much vote for larisa as i did vote against mike... 4/8/2002 4:04:05 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19621 Posts user info edit comment |
Nothing, he made some snide comments about the users of TWW and their candidate who hid behind his keyboard to attack him, or something. He called out Travis in the Brickyard, I think. Anyways, Travis or somebody that was there can much better relate the story. 4/8/2002 4:18:56 PM |
Chillin056 All American 6616 Posts user info edit comment |
that took like 5 seconds 4/8/2002 4:59:36 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72827 Posts user info edit comment |
With comments from people on here like "I'm voting for Larisa because I think I am gonna get some."
I cannnot blame him.
Vote Mike. 4/8/2002 5:25:55 PM |
Kev4Pack All American 25272 Posts user info edit comment |
I hope he didn't think all users of TWW were backing Travis. 4/8/2002 6:14:13 PM |
MinkaGrl01
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I can't vote 4/8/2002 7:32:48 PM |
HayleyToye All American 1144 Posts user info edit comment |
Quote : | "With comments from people on here like "I'm voting for Larisa because I think I am gonna get some."
I cannnot blame him.
Vote Mike.
" |
My sentiments exactly. 4/8/2002 7:44:38 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit comment |
donde esta el "sense of humor" 4/8/2002 8:04:00 PM |
wolfeee All American 3942 Posts user info edit comment |
Like Minka, I can't vote. I'd still vote for Jackleg. But in the meantime, I'll just hope that Sparky learns to spell canDidate. Right Lesamuels? 4/8/2002 8:16:19 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit comment |
actually, i typed that up
but he's the editor, BLAME IT ON HIM 4/8/2002 8:33:41 PM |
CalliPHISH All American 10883 Posts user info edit comment |
Why in the hell would I vote for someone just because they came on the WW WANTING VOTES..... Thats the only reason she came here..... She sounds like an idiot everytime she talks, she is only a sophmore... did you guys read the technician today?
I didnt even like this Mike guy too much.. but he was certainly better than a sophmore that doesnt even know efforts that have already been made, which she thinks she would initiate 4/8/2002 9:44:02 PM |
aielman All American 18197 Posts user info edit comment |
she is sadly pathetic...
vote mike 4/8/2002 9:54:27 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit comment |
vote mike 4/8/2002 10:03:46 PM |
NCSUCOO All American 2484 Posts user info edit comment |
I think it is funny how Jackleg went made this post specifically calling out Mike...but yet everyone has said they voted for him anyway. Jackleg, you may have gotten some votes, but that isn't shit, especially for the size of this place. Any popular student in any major organization could have done the same. You are not special. 4/8/2002 10:16:12 PM |
chocoholic All American 7156 Posts user info edit comment |
^^ exactly. I've got enough organizational memberships that I could've won SBP just by being a write-in candidate. I don't like either of these 2 tho, can I still write-in jackleg as my choice?
*of course, I'd be eligible to serve, so it'd be easier for me to get votes. The fact that Travis pulled off a couple hundred votes shows 2 things: 1) clearly, a good % of state students don't like current SG people and candidates, if they would rather vote for someone who can't serve than EITHER of the ones who can 2) if you have to be an "official write-in" candidate to serve, why don't they stick your name on the ballot under a category of "official write-ins" so people will know how the heck to spell your name (not like Oakley is hard to spell, but this IS state after all, and imagine if YASINOVSKAYA was a write-in, she'd have had votes under like 6 diff. aliases)
[Edited on April 8, 2002 at 10:57 PM. Reason : add] 4/8/2002 10:30:30 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit comment |
I never claimed to be special. I just wrote a story. Go to fucking hell if you don't like it 4/8/2002 10:38:45 PM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62439 Posts user info edit comment |
I just voted for Larisa 4/8/2002 11:12:13 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit comment |
Quote : | "Mike Anthony has refused to address The Wolfweb and continues to poke fun at it" |
can u blame him???
90% of the stuff posted on here is complete bullshit and has little credibility. even when people try to post serious topics, people mock them and turn it into a fight, rather then a discussion. if anything, i admire him for realizing what goes on here, and focusing his attention on something more worthwhile.4/8/2002 11:12:29 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit comment |
Quote : | "Why in the hell would I vote for someone just because they came on the WW WANTING VOTES..... Thats the only reason she came here....." |
She has been occasionally posting here since last fall. She might not have earned your votes b/c she is a member of TWW, but she didn't join TWW to try to win your votes.
Quote : | "if you have to be an "official write-in" candidate to serve, why don't they stick your name on the ballot under a category of "official write-ins" so people will know how the heck to spell your name (not like Oakley is hard to spell, but this IS state after all, and imagine if YASINOVSKAYA was a write-in, she'd have had votes under like 6 diff. aliases)" |
Your name appears on the ballot because you are a filed candidate. As a filed candidate, you have to follow all of the regulations, parameters, and guidelines enforced by the Elections Board. It would be unfair to put names on the ballot of people who didn't go through the same process.
Additionally, the Elections Board is supposed to address misspelling of write in candidates by combining similar names.4/8/2002 11:17:58 PM |
Wortham Veteran 115 Posts user info edit comment |
Do you really want Larisa representing you to the board of trustees? Though I don't know, touting her breasts at a group of mostly old affluent white men who cannot relate to the financial burden that most student are under today might work. Oh wait, never mind, Larisa thinks battling tuition hikes is stupid. Scratch that.
If you brain is in your skull and not your penis, VOTE MIKE.
[Edited on April 8, 2002 at 11:21 PM. Reason : .] 4/8/2002 11:20:54 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit comment |
my brain is in my skull 4/8/2002 11:32:52 PM |
Wortham Veteran 115 Posts user info edit comment |
I thought we determined that you don't have a brain. Remember that happens when you are caught violating school rules. Not when you aren't caught though. Only when you are caught. I thought that was why it was determined you can't serve. 4/8/2002 11:46:14 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit comment |
yes, i am slightly biased... this one issue is very important to me 4/8/2002 11:53:31 PM |
roguewolf All American 9069 Posts user info edit comment |
Quote : | "90% of the stuff posted on here is complete bullshit and has little credibility. even when people try to post serious topics, people mock them and turn it into a fight, rather then a discussion. if anything, i admire him for realizing what goes on here, and focusing his attention on something more worthwhile" |
So this includes all 4000 of us??
I've heard that exact line over and over again from everyone in SG...and you know what, i'm still here and so is markgoal, COO, kay_Yow, Wlfpack2k and others....sooooo whats THAT tell you?4/9/2002 1:22:29 AM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit comment |
that's why we have choices 4/9/2002 1:48:15 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42536 Posts user info edit comment |
we all know that tech article she wrote in which seh basically said that it was ok women tried to get ahead by wearing skimpy clothing to assert themselves. well, if she wins, is that what she is going to do? go to meetings with school administrators wearing miniskirts to "assert" herself?
Quote : | "Now I am not advocating that a woman should sleep her way to the proverbial top. I am however, acknowledging that a woman can use her sexuality to assert herself, much like men use masculinity -- without any negative repercussions -- to assert themselves. We see it every day; we're just so socialized to it that we don't even notice it. All intellectual prowess aside, if a man walked into a room and used his broad shoulders and deep voice to make his presence and position known, we wouldn't even so much as blink at his strategy. But if a woman used her breasts and legs to make her presence and position known, what would we call her?
I'm saying that is it OK for women to pose in Playboy and wear short skirts. I don't think this is the only way for a woman to assert herself, but if she chooses this strategy, then I say this is just as viable and valid an approach.
So girls, wear those short skirts proudly.
Larisa wants to pose for Playboy but is afraid of the social stigma. Won't you tell her it's OK at larisas_opinion@hotmail.com ? " |
seems like she is going to use her "breasts and legs to make here presence and position known." no thanks, i want a president who will his his/her brains, not his/her body.4/9/2002 2:01:26 AM |
Seth-Setesh All American 2563 Posts user info edit comment |
Well, I kinda got to reading these comments and so I thought I'd pull up both candidates websites and see what I personally can glean from each one. I have tried my hardest to make this unbiased and read into Larisa's flaws as a candidate as well; however, the fact remains that I lack perfection and that I am biased. Please feel free to disagree with me or my conclusions by posting comment below.
I welcome all disagreements and corrections, but rudeness is intolerable. Please be bigger than rudeness. With that out of the way, here are the websites:
Larisa -- http://VoteLarisa.com/ Mike -- http://mike4fusion.com/
Disclaimer: Quotes from webpages are roughly paraphrased but the original intent has not been distorted. If you believe that I have indeed distorted the meaning of a quote from a candidate, click on the following link to see a picture of my ass. http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/science/07/19/iran.asses/story.ass.jpg.
First, the legend: = "This sounds a little far fetched. Watch out for broken promises!" = "According to Seth, and only Seth, this is a reason I would vote for you." = "Oops, I forgot to mention that on my webpage." = "I would love you to believe that I came up with that idea." = "Blah blah blah = BS. Not that I won't do this, but I needed filler for my platform."
Next, the issues:
Tuition Mike's webpage: "No more tuition increases in 2003!" Larisa's webpage: no reference made
Seth's glean: Mike intends to fight tuition increases. However, Mike has promised something that he has absolutely no power over. He has influence, but no power. On the other hand, Larisa didn't even bring it up in her webpage.
Parking Mike's webpage: no reference made Larisa's webpage: "working with transportation to make a better system of parking pass distribution, working to create a better notification system of parking availability, working on finding alternative parking solutions to an ever-increasing problem of parking on campus"
Seth's glean: While a lot of Larisa's sports is fluff, Student Government does have influence on NCSU Transportation's policies. To prove this I'll cite student senator Mark Matthew's work in getting them to change the silly rule that you must pay a parking ticket before you appeal it. Those of us that commute to campus know all too well the lines at parking decks and the pure hell it is finding a spot to safely park your car, knowing that it's either parking yourself or the poorly managed wolfline and its erratic schedule.
Off Campus Students Mike's Webpage: "[i want to] develop a governing body in the interests of Off Campus Students." Larisa's Webpage: no reference made.
Seth's glean: Well, Mike Anthony is assumedly referring to the creation of an ORC, or Outer Residence Council, something that is or never was his idea alone, and now that he's out of the senate, really all he can do is not veto its inception. He's had lots of great ideas, I'm sure, but this is not one of them. Larisa didn't say anything in specific about addressing off-campus students, but she does speak of increasing NCSU's parking capacity and availabilty (see above), and I fathom that would really only go to serve off-campus students.
Homecoming Mike's Webpage: I want to "adopt the success of Homecoming 2001 and take it higher." Larisa's Webpage: I want to "make homecoming even bigger and better this year, have more activities, and publicize it more."
Seth's glean: Where I don't believe homecoming is really one of the "key" issues in this debate, it probably deserves more publicity than it gets. However, don't expect either of the candidates to actually come through and make it any more "successful", "bigger and better" than it was last year.
Dining Mike's Webpage: no reference made. Larisa's Webpage: I want to "work with Dining to put a register outside of the atrium to help overcrowding, and persuade Hillsborough St. vendors to accept all-campus cards."
Seth's glean: Whereas Larisa has good ideas, these ideas are not hers to fulfill. She, in my opinion, should have left them off her platform. At least she even addressed the issue though...
Higher Education for African Americans Mike's Webpage: I want to "increase the graduation rate of African Americans" Larisa's Webpage: no reference made.
Seth's glean: I'm sorry to be so skeptical, but Mike's proposal to increase graduation rates for African American students is a bit far-fetched for me. Whereas this is an issue to be looked at and addressed, I don't think it is necessarily the place of the Student Body President to be the direct resolver of the problem.
Tolerance Mike's Webpage: no reference made. Larisa's Webpage: I want to "work to increase tolerance based on students' nationality, ethnicity, color, sexual orientation and gender"
Seth's glean: While tolerance may not be a large issue for some of you, it is for me. And in a day and age where the way we look at people is changing, I think that it's good that an SBP candidate is finally addressing tolerance. I've actually spoken to Larisa about this, and this is my primary reason for voting for her. Although she can't descend upon the brickyard and make everyones racism, sexism, and homophobia vanish into thin air, she can work with various programs, such as the scholars and the UAB, to promote diversity and tolerance on campus.
Health Mike's Webpage: no reference made. Larisa's Webpage: I want to "improve the health center for women and their needs and concerns."
Seth's glean: Wow. Mike says nothing about this. What I think Larisa is getting at here is the existing policy of Student Health Services on contraceptives and sexual disease treatments. That is, they cannot outwardly advertise that they can treat these. You have to go in and ask. Although we all know that abstinence is the best birth control, students need to know that their very own health center can address their needs as opposed to the unhealthy alternative of in school pregnancies.
GB 33 - The definition of Good Standing required to serve in Student Gov't Mike's Webpage: no reference made. Larisa's Webpage: I want to "open the doors of SG to more students, even students who may have made mistakes before so as to prevent Student Government from being an elitist organization"
Seth's glean: I remember when this came up in the senate. Basically it boils down to whether or not you're essentially elitist and want to keep "the bad eggs" out of SG. A bill came through the senate called GB 33, and was defeated. Larisa supported it, Mike did not. If you care at all about student government and its effectiveness(which for many of you is a big no, but read on for me ), you should at least support a measure that broadens the "representation" of students.
I believe the main point argued by GB 33's opposers was that "if you can't do well in school, how could you possibly function as a student representative." That statement is about as rediculous as "If you can't play soccer very well, how could you possibly function as a tennis player?"
Increasing Voter Turnout Mike's Webpage: I want to "increase voter turnout at NCSU and in Wake County" Larisa's Webpage: no reference made.
Seth's glean: Whereas Mike can and probably will publicize NCSU student gov't elections more next year, the only thing he can do for Wake County is publicize city elections in district D, and since nobody has yet to declare themselves an opponent of Benson Kirkman, most NCSU students will resort to apathy come the next city council elections.
And that's it. I worked long and hard on this, so I hope you at least get something out of it. Please point out corrections and disagreements to me in a friendly manner and I will address them as they come.
Thanks y'all, and have a great night.
Lots of love, Seth
4/9/2002 2:42:38 AM |
NCSUCOO All American 2484 Posts user info edit comment |
Quote : | "I have tried my hardest to make this unbiased and read into Larisa's flaws as a candidate as well; however, the fact remains that I lack perfection and that I am biased." |
Seth...you should have put that in bold. The problem I have with your comments is more though. Here you have two candidates. One is trying and the other isn't. Sure some of the things sound far fetched....at least he is trying. And let me tell you some of the things can be done. Tuition can be kept "low" with student support to the president...now we just need a president that can get the students behind him or her (Larisa doesn't care about tuition, she said it herself.) Etc. Etc. Etc.
Quote : | "Go to fucking hell if you don't like it " |
Where is FUCKING hell Jackleg?
Quote : | "I've heard that exact line over and over again from everyone in SG...and you know what, i'm still here and so is markgoal, COO, kay_Yow, Wlfpack2k and others....sooooo whats THAT tell you?" |
I like bullshit....I'LL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT IT.4/9/2002 3:37:03 AM |
Fermat All American 47007 Posts user info edit comment |
If you sewn up penis wrinkles don't remember, Jackleg's campaign was as close to being 100% confined to ONE WEBPAGE as it possibly could have, and he never made any attempt to disguise it. Like what has been said before, this IS the most powerful tool students have, he had his priorities and his platform, but the true drive all along was THIS website and proving how powerful it could be. Free to students. I am sure it could have been misconstrued as something more lofty and philisophical, but ask around. And before you shmucks judge him, think about how well you would have done under the same constraints and goals. Way to overanalyze a totaly worth while attempt to give students real power and put more stock in student government's SELF IMPOSED bureaucracy folks.(gettin cliche' isn't it?) I hate college.
[Edited on April 9, 2002 at 11:13 AM. Reason : but I love you guys ] 4/9/2002 11:05:17 AM |
CrazyJ The Boss 2453 Posts user info edit comment |
Quote : | "90% of the stuff posted on here is complete bullshit and has little credibility. even when people try to post serious topics, people mock them and turn it into a fight, rather then a discussion. if anything, i admire him for realizing what goes on here, and focusing his attention on something more worthwhile" |
yeah like senate meetings are any more worthwhile . anyway, no matter how juvenile the people on this website appear, the fact is that they are his constutients.4/9/2002 11:16:23 AM |
KevinStevens All American 1933 Posts user info edit comment |
Is you is, or is you ain't my constutients? 4/9/2002 11:31:57 AM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit comment |
Quote : | "Way to overanalyze a totaly worth while attempt to give students real power and put more stock in student government's SELF IMPOSED bureaucracy folks" |
thank you fermat4/9/2002 11:42:24 AM |
nothing22 All American 21537 Posts user info edit comment |
so which one is going to extend chic-fil-a's breakfast hours 30 minutes? 4/9/2002 12:03:52 PM |
yosh103 All American 2000 Posts user info edit comment |
Anyone can come up with a list of things that need changed on campus. Only one canidate in my opinion provided significant solutions and he is the one with the leadership and knowledge of SG to back it up. 4/9/2002 1:49:22 PM |
mdaldrich All American 1564 Posts user info edit comment |
neither one - dining says they can't do that because of the time necessary to switch over to lunch 4/9/2002 1:50:16 PM |
Seth-Setesh All American 2563 Posts user info edit comment |
NCSUCOO:
Quote : | "Seth...you should have put that in bold. The problem I have with your comments is more though. Here you have two candidates. One is trying and the other isn't." |
We'd have to agree to disagree on that one. I think that Larisa is, and more importantly will try to achieve the greater majority of the things she discusses in her e-platform. I know personally from her that Parking, Homecoming, and Tolerance are big issues for her, and that she will have the ability to make headway in office, whereas Mike Anthony and his "no more tuition increases in 2003" and "increased African American graduation rate" is very hard to swallow, at least for me.
NCSUCOO:
Quote : | "Sure some of the things sound far fetched....at least he is trying. And let me tell you some of the things can be done. Tuition can be kept "low" with student support to the president...now we just need a president that can get the students behind him or her (Larisa doesn't care about tuition, she said it herself.) Etc. Etc. Etc. " |
I agree with you for the most part. We all know that some stinker somewhere is going to want to raise tuition for the 2003-2004 school year, and depending on what kind of a battle we fight determines our ability to curb that increase, and likewise, yes, what kind of leader is at the front lines of that battle does matter.
Knowing Larisa personally, I would vouch for her leadership qualities. She is very much a go-getter and very, very zealous about things she believes in. I think that if a tuition increase reared it's ugly head next year, she would definitely make a stink.
Oh, and some other things:
OEPII1:
Quote : | "seems like she is going to use her "breasts and legs to make here presence and position known." no thanks, i want a president who will his his/her brains, not his/her body." |
Please pay attention to this: If she were trying to market her tits and ass, she wouldn't put up giant green flyers up all over campus with a picture of her in a baggy turtleneck.
Moreover, the point of her quoted Technician article is to more or less point out that, in our patriarchial dominated society, men have much more slack in terms of flaunting their positive qualities. If a guy struts down the street wearing a muscle shirt and sporting huge-ass pecs and abs, the first thought in many minds is not "slut!", but instead, "wow, he's sure worked hard... fucking gym rat." However, if a woman strutted down the street in something skimpy and tight with her tits hangin' out, most guys (and many girls too) would think "slut" in a heartbeat.
She was just trying to prove a point in an opinion article. What she writes in the Technician is not a sure-fire guarantee that she's going to give the Board of Trustees head in exchange for voting down tuition increases, or whatever nonsense. It was just her opinion.
Thanks y'all.
Lots o' love Seth
[Edited on April 9, 2002 at 2:02 PM. Reason : I made a BIG typo.. damn hope nobody caught that.]4/9/2002 2:00:31 PM |
nothing22 All American 21537 Posts user info edit comment |
there is no freakin' way it takes thirty minutes to switch over to lunch. i simply cannot believe, in 2002, there is no efficient way to cut that time down. if they tried, they could find a working solution 4/9/2002 2:03:19 PM |
Fermat All American 47007 Posts user info edit comment |
And make friday dinner last the NORMAL amount of time.
4/9/2002 2:49:18 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit comment |
Maybe Mike can pull a Boss Tweed in the State Legislature elections. Unfortunately, that appears to be the only way to have NO tuition increase as he promises. 4/9/2002 4:50:48 PM |
Kay_Yow All American 6858 Posts user info edit comment |
^^ people who know nothing about tuition should just be quiet. 4/9/2002 8:37:25 PM |
daJOel All American 1582 Posts user info edit comment |
Has anyone stopped to think, TWW moderators at least, that maybe Mike Anthony ignores TWW b/c it is a useless wasteland!!! people on here care more about the UT porn than the student government, and the way this site is handled also demands questions.
no further comments, save the one that's anti-TWW 4/9/2002 8:52:18 PM |
Seth-Setesh All American 2563 Posts user info edit comment |
daJOel:
Quote : | "Has anyone stopped to think, TWW moderators at least, that maybe Mike Anthony ignores TWW b/c it is a useless wasteland!!! people on here care more about the UT porn than the student government, and the way this site is handled also demands questions." |
I think Mike is ignoring it because Larisa is winning in the TWW poll, and, like any good politician, he doesn't want to bother with people who have already made up their minds about who the right candidate really is.
He prefers the "fresh meat," like the people in the brickyard who are accosted by phrases like "Have you voted yet?"
I also wouldn't give two shits about TWW either if I poked fun at the little people using it who hide behind their computers and get hostile at each other. So what's really happened, folks, is that Mike thinks you're obviously not worth his time.
Especially considering his earth-shattering four posts.
Side Story Time! When I was in the brickyard today, this girl handed me a flyer when I told her I hadn't voted, and she was stupendously stumped when I asked her, "So, why do you support Mike Anthony?"
Oops.
[Edited on April 9, 2002 at 9:35 PM. Reason : I left something out.]4/9/2002 9:31:58 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit comment |
Quote : | "^^ people who know nothing about tuition should just be quiet." |
I DO know that it is unrealistic to expect, and GUARANTEE no tuition increases in the next year after it has skyrocketed in recent years. Only the GA can immediately put a stop to tuition increases. You know that as well as I do.4/10/2002 12:06:50 AM |
Fermat All American 47007 Posts user info edit comment |
4/10/2002 1:13:27 AM |
FuhCtious All American 11955 Posts user info edit comment |
No point slinging any mud at this point.
All I know is that it would be neat if whoever the next VP of Extension and Outreach is decided to have someone keep tabs on TWW and get involved with it, because we have seen that TWW does care about political matters (somewhat different from last year, as it was still growing I guess). This may come under the auspices of the Outer Residence Council, I don't know, cause I haven't heard anything about it.
Either way, though, someone needs to keep people here informed about the official party line and take things back to the executive branch. 4/10/2002 6:59:46 AM |
NCSUCOO All American 2484 Posts user info edit comment |
Quote : | "I DO know that it is unrealistic to expect, and GUARANTEE no tuition increases in the next year after it has skyrocketed in recent years. Only the GA can immediately put a stop to tuition increases. You know that as well as I do" |
I don't remember a guarentee being made on anything except TRYING as hard as possible.
But you wouldn't know anything about that would you?4/10/2002 10:40:04 AM |
Seth-Setesh All American 2563 Posts user info edit comment |
Hey, be nice.
Everyone will try, and trying counts for something! But even if all of SG and beyond pushes on the side of a mountain, it's not going to move. It make the mountain extremely uncomfortable, however, and that's the idea, right?
If it's not the idea, correct me. 4/10/2002 11:49:29 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72827 Posts user info edit comment |
"I'll stand up next to a mountain...chop it down, with the edge of my hand."
[Edited on April 10, 2002 at 12:30 PM. Reason : jimi] 4/10/2002 12:29:56 PM |
NCSUCOO All American 2484 Posts user info edit comment |
Quote : | "Everyone will try, and trying counts for something! But even if all of SG and beyond pushes on the side of a mountain, it's not going to move. It make the mountain extremely uncomfortable, however, and that's the idea, right? " |
The problem is the BOT and the BOG may be mountains....but there are other steps. There is nothing that stops students from being able to fight and win these battles. At least 13 of the 15 states have failed to raise tuition in their states citing student apthy as a major reason why. Why the hell can't we do it you ask? Because we have yet to have a leader that can bring students together enough to get it accomplished. Can it be done? Yes. It has before. Can we do it? Sure as hell not with leaders that don't know shit about tuition.4/10/2002 1:02:17 PM |
Fermat All American 47007 Posts user info edit comment |
A golden winged ship is passing my way. But it really didn't have to stop. It just kept on going. 4/10/2002 1:36:57 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit comment |
Quote : | " don't remember a guarentee being made on anything except TRYING as hard as possible." |
Quote : | "No more tuition increases in 2003!" |
^^^^from Mike's website.
I do hope that whoever is in power TRIES to prevent a tuition increase, but it is awfully bold to state there will be not be one. I'm sure Mike has the best of motivations, hell, I'll be angry if they raise tuition again as well. However, I doubt that any one person, particularly one person in student government, can realistically say that it will not happen.
However, I will STRONGLY support Jamie Pendergrass and his leadership, as well as Mike or Larisa, in the tuition battle next year, whether or not I KNOW it will prevent an increase.4/10/2002 2:17:21 PM |
NCSUCOO All American 2484 Posts user info edit comment |
Mark....I went to his website and geez...I guess I missed where he put I guarentee and can see in the future that we will beat tuition increases next year. Damn...but hey I am not too good a reader. If you see it let me know please. 4/10/2002 3:18:30 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit comment |
see if i was sbp i could make shit happen 4/10/2002 3:46:09 PM |
NCSUCOO All American 2484 Posts user info edit comment |
Probably could. 4/10/2002 4:37:04 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72827 Posts user info edit comment |
4/10/2002 7:15:33 PM |