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" "Why should I? Why should I? Why should I be on a hot seat? You see that stadium? It wasn't there five or six years ago. I think to build a program, you've got to win within the state first. In this state, there's five Division I-A schools. Check the record over the last six years. The second-winningest school in this state has won 30. That's five a year. We're two shy of winning eight a year... we're at 46. Take the other four schools in this state... how many bowls have they been to? Five. What's their record? 1-4. We've been to five. Our record is 4-1. We've got to get the bowls. Then when we get the bowls we've got to get hungry to get to that next big bowl. We had a little taste of it. We were just visiting... I'll be daggone. Somebody in Jacksonville told me this, I didn't know this. Since the Atlantic Coast Conference has been "in," after six seasons, the fourth-winningest coach is [me]. Somebody told me that. I didn't know that. Out of all the coaches to ever coach here. Daggone. After six years I won more games than Tommy Bowden... and more games than... if I'm on one, so be it. I don't know why I should be. Because we're winning... we're going to bowls. We're close. I thought what George Welsh did at the University of Virginia was absolutely awesome. When I got here, he was one of five or six teams in the country that had won seven or more games, I believe ten years in a row. I came one short of being seven or more... had I won one and had a chance to go to a bowl I might have been in that thing after seven years. I think that's awfully good. I look at what's happening. I look at where we're at and where we've come from. I don't know. Do you?" - Chuck Amato responding to the question "Do you feel like you're on the hot seat?" "

stop using the facilities to claim youre a good coach. you didnt buy them, and the plans were already in place before you got here. you didnt make them happen. Fox did. shut up and coach.

Quote :

"I think to build a program, you've got to win within the state first"

doesnt that mean beating teams like wake and unc? almost losing to duke? shut up

[Edited on August 22, 2006 at 2:52 PM. Reason : .]

8/22/2006 2:51:16 PM

link?

8/22/2006 2:54:19 PM

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/559659.html

8/22/2006 2:56:53 PM

Quote :

"After six years I won more games than Tommy Bowden... and more games than... "

...

8/22/2006 3:05:09 PM

It looks to be an exact transcription.

Have you ever listened to someone talk? I mean really listen?

Nobody talks in complete, fully coherent sentences when they're just talking like Amato was talking then.

He was in the middle of a thought and then he shifted gears.

You should hear some of the stuff people say when they're being interviewed. It's unbelievable.

8/22/2006 3:07:49 PM

He has a right to whine. He's on the hot seat earlier than he should be. The fans like him more than the media, who is always crapping on him.

8/22/2006 3:09:54 PM

Quote :

"stop using the facilities to claim youre a good coach. you didnt buy them, and the plans were already in place before you got here. you didnt make them happen. Fox did. shut up and coach."

if you read the conversation you just posted you will see that instead of just the facilities he talks about his record against in state competition and bowl games. The only reason Amato is on the hot seat is because NC State fans are hungry for a championship....ACC or National.... in B-ball or Football. Look what that hunger did to the B-ball program. Granted i didnt like sendek's demeanor when he coached, but he still won quite a bit.

8/22/2006 3:22:23 PM

Are these the same fans that Booed him last year... I like Amato, but there are fans that feel like he has underacheived with the talent he has had. And with the way Sendek was treated, I would be a little worried about this season and possibly being on the hot seat.

8/22/2006 3:24:17 PM

REHIRE HERB SO HE CAN BE FIRED FOR REAL THIS TIME

8/22/2006 3:28:38 PM

Quote :

"The second-winningest school in this state has won 30. That's five a year. We're two shy of winning eight a year... we're at 46. Take the other four schools in this state... how many bowls have they been to? Five. What's their record? 1-4. We've been to five. Our record is 4-1."

That is Wins not facilities...how can you get all over this guy...look at where we came from. We lost to teams like SMU and Baylor under O'Cain...99 and prior was far from where we are now. Just give him time and it will keep going in the right direction...and facilities do help recruit which will bring in the players to win more...

Lets fire him so we can be out of Bowl contention by October 1 like it was 1999 and prior...sounds like fun.

[Edited on August 22, 2006 at 3:31 PM. Reason : .]

8/22/2006 3:30:49 PM

People who want Amato fired are basically ignorant "fans" and don't know shit

8/22/2006 3:32:48 PM

ok, so we get these wins right? over who? division 2 schools?

i dont think that shit should have counted last year


the bowl games? you only need a .500 record to go to a bowl game. the minekecarcarejessejamespinkhotdogbiglots bowl doesnt mean squat to me.


ocain beat fsu when fsu was fsu
as well as Texas at texas.

he was working with subpar facilities, yet got the most out of the players he had.
he also recruited phillip rivers

8/22/2006 3:34:40 PM

why do people keep making these threads, they have the same outcome every time.


"AMATO SUX"

"PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE AMATO ARENT TRUE FANS"


sound familiar?

[Edited on August 22, 2006 at 3:35 PM. Reason : ds]

8/22/2006 3:35:00 PM

^

Quote :

"basically ignorant "fans""

8/22/2006 3:35:38 PM

a better word than "whiner" would be "inarticulate"

but it think he'll do better in the coming years. much better

8/22/2006 3:35:45 PM

dude did I click on theTarheelweb.com?

lemme check. brb.

8/22/2006 3:36:04 PM

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"^ "basically ignorant "fans"""

FUCK YOU TOO

[Edited on August 22, 2006 at 3:40 PM. Reason : fsda]

8/22/2006 3:37:21 PM

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"ocain beat fsu when fsu was fsu as well as Texas at texas. "

O'cain lost to Baylor the following week after beating FSU...and only won about 4 games that year

O'cain lost SMU or Arkansas St the week after Texas

Oh yeah...in 98 and 99 O'cain lost to UNC on a neutral field...not to mention the lost to ECU in there too.

Keep it coming Grace...Those were two terrible year in NCSU Football with about 3 huge upset wins mixed in (FSU, Syracuse, and Texas)

8/22/2006 3:41:08 PM

Players + Money + Coaches + Fans + Media + Snacks = Football


I think we just need better beverages and snacks so we can enjoy this sport this season.

8/22/2006 3:47:31 PM

Isn't Grace a girl's name

8/22/2006 3:47:51 PM

i agree with the top half of grace's post

8/22/2006 3:49:26 PM

the first quote of amato's is 14 lines on my monitor/resolution

after the first line he doesnt mention the stadium

grace is a joke

8/22/2006 3:51:27 PM

Quote :

"Players + Money + Coaches + Fans + Media Beer + Snacks Homicide = NCSU Football"

[Edited on August 22, 2006 at 3:53 PM. Reason : .]

8/22/2006 3:53:12 PM

amato has the fourth best record after six years as an acc coach.

8/22/2006 3:54:12 PM

^^oops, i was referring to

Quote :

"ok, so we get these wins right? over who? division 2 schools? i dont think that shit should have counted last year the bowl games? you only need a .500 record to go to a bowl game. the minekecarcarejessejamespinkhotdogbiglots bowl doesnt mean squat to me. "

getting a win over mtsu to be the deciding factor in getting to the meineke car care bowl is pretty low

8/22/2006 3:57:40 PM

go pull for arizona state football you faggots

8/22/2006 4:00:13 PM

that doesn't make any fucking sense

8/22/2006 4:00:50 PM

i'm sick of people bitching about cupcake schedules. scheduling has a lot to do with logistics, and whether teams punk out on us (Notre Dame next yr).

look at FSU's schedule this year. shit's full of frosting.

8/22/2006 4:01:28 PM

I was slightly off in my above post but here is 1998 and 1999 - O'cain's last 2 years prior to Amato coming in an obviously making us worse according to Grace:

09/03/1998 Ohio 31 North Carolina State 34 ,
09/12/1998 Florida State 7 North Carolina State 24 ,
09/19/1998 North Carolina State 30 Baylor 33 ,
10/01/1998 Syracuse 17 North Carolina State 38 ,
10/10/1998 Georgia Tech 47 North Carolina State 24 ,
10/17/1998 Duke 24 North Carolina State 27 ,
10/24/1998 North Carolina State 13 Virginia 23 ,
10/31/1998 North Carolina State 46 Clemson 39 ,
11/07/1998 Wake Forest 27 North Carolina State 38 ,
11/21/1998 North Carolina State 35 Maryland 21 ,
11/28/1998 North Carolina 37 North Carolina State 34 @ Charlotte, NC,
12/29/1998 North Carolina State 23 Miami (Florida) 46 @ Miami, FL","Micron PC Bowl

08/28/1999 North Carolina State 23 Texas 20 @ Austin, TX","BCA Classic
09/04/1999 South Carolina 0 North Carolina State 10 ,
09/11/1999 William & Mary 9 North Carolina State 38 ,
09/18/1999 North Carolina State 11 Florida State 42 ,
09/25/1999 North Carolina State 7 Wake Forest 31 ,
10/09/1999 Clemson 31 North Carolina State 35 ,
10/23/1999 North Carolina State 31 Duke 24 ,
10/30/1999 North Carolina State 21 Georgia Tech 48 ,
11/06/1999 Maryland 17 North Carolina State 30 ,
11/11/1999 North Carolina 10 North Carolina State 6 @ Charlotte, NC,
11/20/1999 North Carolina State 6 East Carolina 23 ,

[Edited on August 22, 2006 at 4:07 PM. Reason : [b]]

[Edited on August 22, 2006 at 4:08 PM. Reason : 3-4 in State over his last 2...and not blowing out Duke]

8/22/2006 4:05:19 PM

this is old

basically the exact same thing is like the 4th post in this thread:
http://brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=419942

Quote :

"you didnt make them happen. Fox did. shut up and coach."

regardless of the rest of your little post, that is false. amato himself may not have gotten it built, but his winning seasons did. it got excitment and donation up.

8/22/2006 4:08:50 PM

nobody knew who State was 6 years ago

now, regardless of if they think Reggie Bush shouldve gone first, State is on the map

Quit all your bitching...you already ran off one coach...lets try to keep one ok

8/22/2006 4:13:01 PM

that interview was conducted a long, long itme ago and blurbs of it was posted by david glenn on his blog, and subsequently posted on here.

i dont see how you get off saying that hes claiming facilities as a means of proving his ability as a coach.

hes just pointing that out.

i do think he may be a bit dissapointing, but overall has been a good thing for the program.

its people like grace that make me sad to be a state fan.

i mean, come on, the guy was responding to defend the constant barrage of retards asking why he doesnt immediately shit gold. its gotta get tiring. he makes good points, and he defends his position. what the fuck else do you want, in all seriousness?

8/22/2006 4:16:06 PM

We gave Herb a good number of years to deliver, Amato has been more successful, I think, so why don't we give him a few more years before we start trying to run him off, k?

8/22/2006 4:21:32 PM

i just think it's funny that people wouldn't accept mediocrity with herb, but they will bend over backwards to defend chuck

amato needs to shut the fuck up and start winning, i'm tired of excuses and justifications

herb may not have been the most charismatic coach to return State to its glory days of 30 years ago, but he didn't piss and moan or come up with absurd excuses at every press conference

8/22/2006 4:21:51 PM

herb never had the equivalent of a 11-3 season with a top 10 finish like amato did

herb never put out the nba talent that amato already has (in the nfl)

but i liked herb

8/22/2006 4:23:20 PM

Quote :

"i dont see how you get off saying that hes claiming facilities as a means of proving his ability as a coach. "

no, but he is claiming facilities as a reason why he shouldn't be on the hot seat.

[Edited on August 22, 2006 at 4:25 PM. Reason : fdsh]

8/22/2006 4:25:45 PM

^^^actually, this interview is fairly recent

Chip Alexander asked the question about hot seats.

8/22/2006 4:27:13 PM

well he said almost the exact same thing to glenn

look at the link i posted

8/22/2006 4:28:20 PM

i mean herb's degree of success was pretty close to chuck's in my eyes

making the tourney 6 years in a row, winning ACC coach of the year, and a sweet 16 appearance are pretty mediocre when you consider what a powerhouse State used to be

but at the same time having one 11-3 season (by beating a plethora of shitty teams and only finishing 4th in the ACC), several unnoteworthy bowl berths and two top 5 NFL draft picks seems pretty mediocre with all of the money State has thrown at its football program

im an equal opportunity hater and if chuck wants to deliver on the hype he's generated, i think criticism is certainly warranted

8/22/2006 4:29:14 PM

Since taking over as coach he will have 22 guys in the NFL this season.

8/22/2006 4:32:02 PM

oh so now the measure of COLLEGE FOOTBALL SUCCESS is HOW MANY PLAYERS DO YOU HAVE IN THE NFL?

8/22/2006 4:33:14 PM

k well if you wanna bring that tidbit up, then you don't really have the right to roll your eyes the next time Carolina is having a shitty basketball season and a tarhole says "AT LEAST UNC HAS NBA PLAYERZ!111"

8/22/2006 4:33:59 PM

LOCK
SUSPEND
TERMINATE
BEAT TO A PULP
KILL

8/22/2006 4:34:09 PM

i roll my eyes everytimei anyone says that

some unc guy once tried to argue that unc is a better program than duke b/c they have more pro players.

you dont measure a college program by the level of its pros, you measure it by championships.

the only thing good about ahving pro players is it gets our name out to recruits

[Edited on August 22, 2006 at 4:37 PM. Reason : oops, i never say that]

8/22/2006 4:35:56 PM

^

8/22/2006 4:36:54 PM

Quote :

"the only thing good about ahving pro players is it gets our name out to recruits"

i think thats pretty important for, i dunno, building your team year after year

8/22/2006 4:40:09 PM

Quote :

"Since taking over as coach he will have 22 guys in the NFL this season."

besides, that quote is misleading

he probably recruited only half of those



^well no shit it is important, but it isnt the measure of a good program

you can get good recruits and still suck balls

[Edited on August 22, 2006 at 4:41 PM. Reason : a]

[Edited on August 22, 2006 at 4:43 PM. Reason : and i'd appreciate if you didnt try to put words in my mouth]

8/22/2006 4:41:07 PM

i mean it's useful, but i'd say recruits are more inclined to play at a school that, i don't know, actually wins championships

you don't see a surge of QBs fighting to play for Miami of Ohio just because Big Ben happend to play there

8/22/2006 4:43:13 PM

but if they had 8 qbs go in the 1rst round in 14 yrs, i bet you would see them pretty high on alot of qb's list

[Edited on August 22, 2006 at 4:44 PM. Reason : but i agree in principle]

8/22/2006 4:44:45 PM

im pretty sure players want to go to schools like Miami and Ohio State because

- they are always national title contenders
- they put a shitload of players in the NFL

8/22/2006 4:46:04 PM