http://www.filehippo.com/download_firefox/

6/21/2011 7:17:38 AM

pre-alpha?

6/21/2011 8:11:12 AM

It's been in beta since May, so....

6/21/2011 8:32:39 AM

Ive been using 5 since May so....

6/21/2011 8:53:50 AM

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/channel/

also, who trusts beta web browsers with beta security?

6/21/2011 9:00:31 AM

I've been using a stable browser since May, so....

6/21/2011 9:12:44 AM

Today is the Firefox 5 final release date, but the build was made available before the official announcement.

6/21/2011 9:25:47 AM

firefox is garbage, so....

6/21/2011 9:49:36 AM

is something wrong with this thread? message_topic.aspx?topic=521132

6/21/2011 9:51:47 AM

Yes.

6/21/2011 9:56:38 AM

lol way to be predictable frosh

I'm just not sure we need a new thread everytime a new software version comes out.

Also how can you call Firefox discussion a 'Broad Topic,' especially considering the thread had like 1 post in the last 3 months

6/21/2011 9:59:27 AM

Broad thread:
Web browsers

Specific thread:
Firefox

Anal-retentive, too specific, hard to find, irrelevant in a week thread:
Firefox 5.1.581.2 nightly build 10038 running on Windows 7 SP1

6/21/2011 10:03:11 AM

I plan on get[ting] Firefox 5 early in a month or so.

6/21/2011 10:16:42 AM

he's hoping it blows significantly less ass than firefox 4

6/21/2011 10:27:34 AM

does it feel as fast as chrome yet?

6/21/2011 12:31:58 PM

nope...


does it still have a memory leak...


yep...

why use it ?

6/21/2011 12:42:06 PM

firefox is great if you want to very slowly test all of your memory addresses.


other than that its trash. IE9 is the best until IE10 comes out and chrome is ok if you're stuck on an old platform that cant do IE9

6/21/2011 12:59:47 PM

ie9 is terrible

i'd be all up ins chrome if they had firebug (their built-in dev tools blow and so does firebug lite)

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 1:14 PM. Reason : also i dislike how webkit renders images as the very last thing]

6/21/2011 1:14:18 PM

What the hell are you people doing wrong with your browsers that you still experience memory leaks in Firefox?

6/21/2011 1:19:54 PM

ie9 is def the best.

6/21/2011 1:20:18 PM

Quote :

"What the hell are you people doing wrong with your browsers that you still experience memory leaks in Firefox? "

they are using firefox.

6/21/2011 1:20:40 PM

if you have memory leaks in firefox 3+ you are bad at computers

get the fuck out of tech talk

6/21/2011 1:24:09 PM

Quote :

"chrome is ok if you're stuck on an old platform that cant do IE9"

how exactly is IE9 better than Chrome? it sure as hell isn't faster...

6/21/2011 1:39:39 PM

I also do not have firefox memory leaks, even with multiple extensions and GM scripts running.

Safari, on the other hand, is a one app memory leak.

I like Chrome, but, there are some GM scripts that make working with some work related web tools infinitely better that kind of handcuff me to firefox.

6/21/2011 1:46:22 PM

^ do you use Chrome at home then?

6/21/2011 1:56:30 PM

The developers tools in IE9 are light-years ahead of 7 & 8 and yet still underpowered and buggy compared to webkit.

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 2:11 PM. Reason : asfasd]

6/21/2011 2:11:27 PM

My boss seems to think firefox has some memory leak. I'm 99.9% he's crazy. I use it every day on 3 different OS's and never have a problem...

6/21/2011 2:55:45 PM

I have a theory that what it is is uptight motherfuckers thinkin' that actually using memory is a bad thing.

6/21/2011 2:58:25 PM

I don't think it has memory leak issues itself anymore. I don't know enough about the plugin architecture to know if plugins could cause/contain leaks, but I know bad plugins can be a major source of slowdown.

All I know is that chrome has consistently felt much faster to me since I switched to it due to long (multi-minute) FF startup times a long time ago. I generally try each new release, and each time it feels a little faster and looks a little better, but it still feels slower than chrome.

6/21/2011 2:59:56 PM

maybe its forecast fox.... but man my FF eats mem like no one's binness in both windows and osx .

6/21/2011 3:03:52 PM

Quote :

"I have a theory that what it is is uptight motherfuckers thinkin' that actually using memory is a bad thing."

I know next to nothing about memory usage on my computer after I switched to a Mac. I honestly don't even know where to check it or if there's an easy way like Task Manager on Windows. It's never been something that I've ever had to think about for one second before.

What I do know is that when I upgraded to FF4 from FF3, I began to experience slowdowns rapidly increasing into complete un-useability of the entire computer after about an hour of normal use. Going back to FF3 made the issue completely disappear.

It's entirely possible that it wasn't a memory leak. But I can tell you for sure that using a web browser for an hour isn't supposed to bring the entire rest of your computer to it's knees. I'm really not sure why you feel the need to try and get uppity about your own skills when someone else relates their own experience. It's great if you haven't had issues. But guess what? You're not everybody. And you prancing around like a jackass, talking about how we must be doing something wrong, but not actually providing any helpful insight isn't really accomplishing that much now is it?

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 3:20 PM. Reason : You're also WAAAY wrong about this needing to be in it's own thread, FYI. ]

6/21/2011 3:11:35 PM

Quote :

"if you have memory leaks in firefox 3+ you are bad at computers get the fuck out of tech talk"

meaning everyone who installed firefox should get out.

Quote :

"It's entirely possible that it wasn't a memory leak. But I can tell you for sure that using a web browser for an hour isn't supposed to bring the entire rest of your computer to it's knees. I'm really not sure why you feel the need to try and get uppity about your own skills when someone else relates their own experience. It's great if you haven't had issues. But guess what? You're not everybody. And you prancing around like a jackass, talking about how we must be doing something wrong, but not actually providing any helpful insight isn't really accomplishing that much now is it?"

Well there are two things here. 1) firefox is full of memory leaks in every version even if you arent using any plugins. 2) osx has bad memory management thats probably exacerbated by firefox memory leaks.

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 3:24 PM. Reason : .]

6/21/2011 3:21:16 PM

Quote :

"how exactly is IE9 better than Chrome? it sure as hell isn't faster... "

IE9 is faster and more standards compliant than chrome 11 in real world (aka non-webkit) benchmarks. (and even then ie9 was faster then chrome 10 in webkit benchmarks)

6/21/2011 3:22:26 PM

In this thread, El Nachó is mad.

6/21/2011 4:09:32 PM

Quote :

"All I know is that chrome has consistently felt much faster to me since I switched to it due to long (multi-minute) FF startup times a long time ago. I generally try each new release, and each time it feels a little faster and looks a little better, but it still feels slower than chrome."

6/21/2011 4:15:46 PM

Quote :

"if you have memory leaks in firefox 3+ you are bad at computers get the fuck out of tech talk"

firefox 5 has gone from 61% system mem to 75% system mem with no new tabs open and very few addons. firefox is pretty garbage in terms of memory management but I stay with them for privacy and no-script.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.platform/browse_thread/thread/3e0b8c1be056a665?pli=1

6/21/2011 4:16:28 PM

Quote :

"In this thread, El Nachó is mad."

So...you're just trolling for any old response then, eh? Good to know.

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 4:22 PM. Reason : +1 for "any old response" All hail Froshkiller, king of the trolls, killer of all froshes. ]

6/21/2011 4:21:31 PM

you are about half a quagmire02 on the tech talk mad scale

6/21/2011 4:23:54 PM

Thanks?

Nah, I'm not mad. I was semi-interested in having an intelligent discussion on why you think that I don't know a damn thing about computers because my clean install of FF4 with minimal add-ons on 3 month old hardware ended up bringing my entire computer to it's knees. But you've now made it plainly clear that you have no interest in that.

So +1 yet again for any old response. Go you!

6/21/2011 4:27:11 PM

inching up

maybe i'll post a graph

6/21/2011 4:28:07 PM

How dare you ignore my requests for intelligent discussion again.

+1

(at this point, I'm just feeding your ego)

6/21/2011 4:29:14 PM

Quote :

"thinkin' that actually using memory is a bad thing."

it is when you have to deal with swap time delay every time you switch to a different app b/c one app is using 70% of your memory. I have this problem with safari, but not with FF (using 3.5) or Chrome

6/21/2011 4:32:46 PM

okay here i am downloading firefox

compiled for my architecture

but that does not mean it automatically runs optimally in my environment

are there any settings i should investigate

(i wonder)

oh snap settings for the amount of memory dedicated to storing uncompressed image data

the number of pages in my browsing history cached in memory

damn maybe i should rethink the size of my swap file

(all things that someone good at computers would learn about within a few google searches for "firefox memory" if firefox's memory use were a problem)

6/21/2011 4:41:56 PM

firefox was my boy until a little thing called plugin-container.exe showed up

6/21/2011 4:44:17 PM

and that's when you switched to chrome, which is great because it runs flash in its own proce—oh wait

[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 4:46 PM. Reason : !!]

6/21/2011 4:45:57 PM

Firefox leaks memory without tweaking, therefore I just don't use Firefox for anything substantial.

Chrome doesn't play nice with SSDs without tweaking, therefore I don't use Chrome on my computer with an SSD.

Problem solved.

6/21/2011 5:01:46 PM

lawlz, Chrome uses a whole shit-ton of memory

but it usually feels fast so itsallgood

also I'm sorry for not posting in the official Firefox thread, I searched for "Firefox" and didn't look back far enough

6/21/2011 6:17:47 PM

Quote :

"Chrome doesn't play nice with SSDs without tweaking, therefore I don't use Chrome on my computer with an SSD."

I use chrome on a number of computers with SSDs and it runs fine. Whats the exact issue?

^ u should request to have this thread locked...it's be better to have this discussion in the main thread

6/21/2011 6:37:37 PM

FF 4 just came out not too long ago, and I just got the pop-up today asking me to go to 5.

6/21/2011 7:01:56 PM

Quote :

"also I'm sorry for not posting in the official Firefox thread, I searched for "Firefox" and didn't look back far enough"

You'd think you might have remembered from when you did this exact same thing three months ago. Then again, it doesn't appear that learning things is your strong suit in life.

6/21/2011 7:03:01 PM