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"Is Rick still carrying around the hand grenade or what? I keep waiting for that to show up again."

I was wondering that during the standoff inside the nursing home. That would have been a good asset at that point. I'm pretty sure it will come out at some point. They wouldn't have shown it to us if it wasn't going to play an important part in some scene.

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"how far outside of atlanta is the camp? cuz the rescuers got back to camp just by jogging, around the same time the zombies attacked."

I think we're to assume Merle left a trail (of blood from his hand maybe?) for the walkers to follow. Merle may have gotten there relatively quickly in the van, but I don't think it's unreasonable to think that the walkers would be somewhat slow by comparison to the sheriff & crew who were rushing to get back.

You can see the Atlanta skyline in some scenes from the camp. I'd guess 15 miles or so, but that's kind of hard to tell.

[Edited on November 24, 2010 at 12:55 PM. Reason : l]

11/24/2010 12:54:16 PM

for those interested, this is the quarry used in the show

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=lois+st+nw,+atlanta,+ga&sll=33.770435,-84.41066&sspn=0.057222,0.110378&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Lois+St+NW,+Atlanta,+Fulton,+Georgia+30318&ll=33.784047,-84.433052&spn=0.028606,0.055189&z=14

11/24/2010 1:01:16 PM

You see the skyline at one point in this episode, and I was surprised how close it was... looked like about 2-3 miles which seems right according to ^

I think it was during one of the scenes when the dude was digging holes

11/24/2010 1:05:30 PM

^ i expected them to be further out than that. but that makes sense i why they were able to get there on foot fairly easily

11/24/2010 6:02:43 PM

^^^that's pretty cool

11/24/2010 9:35:44 PM

I'm with a lot of people on this one, Been disappointed with the 4th episode too. Better then the last though. I was glad to see the whole conflict with the "latin gang" but the whole diffusion of the situation with a grandmother and the whole nurse care idea is probably the stupidest idea I've ever heard of for a plot twist. I too was also anticipating Rick using the hand nade in the standoff, then get dissolved when zombies attack or something...

I'm really surprised they would position themselves just a few short miles from downtown with a shit ton of Z's. I mean a gunshot or any kind of noise could be heard from downtown area easily and vice versa. And I'm really surprised that it too the group nightfall to get back to the location. Even if you walk it slowly, that's still like only what an hour? I also concur with the camp fire idea. Atlanta is known for high temps, crazy humidity and temps don't vary that much; since they are so close to the city, having a camp fire at night is probably the stupidest idea.

Also are there deer even that close to the city? I mean it's not exactly like the whole "woods" experience they were trying to showcase as part of the camp would be prime hunting ground...

I would have loved to see more of a group/clan development and conflicts between these groups similar to what we see with some apocalyptic games.

11/25/2010 3:15:29 AM

i don't think they were necessarily using the camp fire to keep warm, it was probably for cooking and being able to see at night without having to use batteries.

11/25/2010 3:21:45 AM

I'd question the use of a fire for light when it could potentially attract zombies considering how close they really are.

11/25/2010 3:29:43 AM

I'd like to add that this latest episode was the worst one so far.

It was really, really bad.

If they want to go to a ultracheesy, bad movie place, I'm down for the ride, but they need to be in on the joke for it work.

11/25/2010 9:43:01 AM

Only beef with it so far is how they travel in the city going from place to place but dont explain how they went that far without being seen or pursued by zombies.

Example, from the van to the building. From the building to the gangsters hideout.

And speaking of those gangsters, they really dont explain how they are feeding that many people. I know the old folks home is supposed to have food in it, but not enough for that many people that long.

Maybe there is just that much food to be found in the city.

11/25/2010 10:28:55 AM

My only beef with the show right now is that there appears to be more provisions around than I would have thought. Like when Grimes goes back to the Sheriff's office and is able to get all those guns. I would think that in the chaos the Sheriff's office would have been raided and looted.

And that department store they were in? It would have been raped clean - I don't care what kind of disaster, especially in Atlanta, there's going to be massive looting.

[Edited on November 25, 2010 at 11:31 AM. Reason : s]

11/25/2010 11:31:21 AM

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"How about make characters that are actually interesting Not a single character has a motive or personality that is even close to compelling at this point The people that died in the zombie raid, I couldn't tell you a single one of their names. R.I.P. younger sister whose dad taught you to fish and domestic abuser that got his face pounded in."

This is how I feel, I almost turned it off halfway through the episode. That's how I felt from the beginning of the series and nothing has changed. The only reason I'm watching this show still is because it's AMC and the graphic novels get so much praise.

11/25/2010 11:50:58 AM

^I'll never understand you people. "I hate this show but I'm going to keep watching it and talking about how much I hate it."

Responding to duro from the last page:

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"And I think it's kinda BS to say something isn't bad because they're not working with a traditional full season, it's typical of the genre, etc. Shit is shit, regardless of why it's there."

Well, if someone doesn't like a thing, and that thing is typical of a genre, they should probably steer clear of the genre. I think that many of the convention in soap operas are incredibly stupid, and it would be inane for me to watch a specific soap opera and bitch about it doing what every other soap opera does.

I also don't think it's reasonable to toss out the length of time they have to work with. People don't bitch that the animated shorts before pixar films don't have as much development as the films themselves.

Ultimately my issues are:

1) The level of development that exists is being underrated, and
2) People are coming into this expecting more than they have any reason to expect, complaining when it is no delivered, and continuing to watch for what I can only assume is the pleasure of more complaining.

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"I don't know if that's from the comics or the show writers originally, but "tough guy proving not so tough when grandmother is present" isn't very original and not all that funny. "

Again, I think the whole takeaway point from that scene (and the whole subplot) was that these weren't tough guys, they were nice guys forced to act tough. It's made clear that the group was never all that gangster to begin with.

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"My only beef with the show right now is that there appears to be more provisions around than I would have thought."

They have played pretty fast and loose with this. You'd expect a lot more ransacking in a big urban area.

11/26/2010 2:11:33 AM

If you've complained left and right about this episode (or couldn't find anything more to like than the attack at the end), then this is the stop where you should get off the train, and out of this thread.

That's not to say it's wrong to not like a single episode, or have a problem with certain things within multiple episodes (I've certainly made my problems with some things noted on here). But it boils down to this:

There are 6 episodes. If you've hated more than one episode, you'll have ended up hating a sizable chunk of the series, and there's not much chance for it to get better (this is especially true as to many of the complaints leveled.)

Much like Star Wars fans who hate anything Star Wars-related after the original three movies, you should just stop watching. If you haven't found much to like so far, fine. Use your hour Sunday night to do anything else...

But please...for the love of almighty God, don't punish the rest of us by acting like just because they put the name 'Star Wars' (or in this case include zombies) on it/in it, you're somehow forced to watch it, and then feel entitled to turn around and complain about that fact left and right. Just quit watching, and more importantly quit bitching, and we'll all come out ahead.

To those who have had occasional problems like any normal viewer, please continue as normal.

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"My only beef with the show right now is that there appears to be more provisions around than I would have thought."

Again, I think this is a casualty of the show's length. I'm sure they reached a point in the story development where they figured that they could kill time with survivors going out to scavenge, or they could put their efforts elsewhere. I haven't read the comic, but I'm pretty sure the writers came to the same conclusion, given the extremely limited space of the medium.

11/26/2010 9:34:16 AM

i am fortunate that i don't normally have trouble with suspension of disbelief for small nit picky details...

i've been thoroughly entertained

11/26/2010 10:01:14 AM

same here, I don't get people who nitpick tv shows. Its a SHOW, we know its fake. Just eat your popcorn and suspend belief for an hour.

11/26/2010 10:55:28 AM

Well, I liked the first episode, I like the concept, I have faith in AMC and even moreso with the rep of the comic, and I like a lot of the visuals. I'm just waiting for them to give me a reason to care about some of the characters.

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"People are coming into this expecting more than they have any reason to expect, complaining when it is no delivered, and continuing to watch for what I can only assume is the pleasure of more complaining."

I don't think a little more character development is too much to ask for.

11/26/2010 11:02:15 AM

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"Well, if someone doesn't like a thing, and that thing is typical of a genre, they should probably steer clear of the genre."

Why do you think that? Why does the creative and technical execution, and style of one piece of zombie fiction have to pretty much be the same as all others? Your argument is that "It's zombie fiction, therefore you should not expect anything different than any other movie/show with zombies" -- Do I have that right?

The problem I have with that is that any one piece of fiction is not that one dimensional. Is Night of the Living Dead really the same genre as Zombie Land or Shaun of the Dead? I mean, I like all of them... but I would not necessarily recommend the former to fans of the latter. The Walking Dead is not, from what I've gathered, meant to be predominately funny. Nor is it meant to be all about gore and kills. There's supposed to be a good deal of drama and good story (AMC - Story Matters Here). It's fair to compare this show with any other show that's trying to present good drama and story, regardless of the specific topic. That being said, if The Walking Dead doesn't have some kills that rival that of Dead Snow... I'm alright with that. Those two projects, even though both have zombies, are trying to achieve very different things.

I like the show so far, that's not to say some characters aren't very flat and stereotypical. And it's perfectly fair to point that out. Regardless of what is "typical" of the genre.

Why is it unfair to expect a well written, well acted, well developed show or movie that has Zombies? And why is it unfair to criticize a show that has some bad qualities that airs on a network that puts itself out there as having the best original programming on television?


AMC has two of the most critically acclaimed television shows on air right now. It's perfectly fair to compare this show to Mad Men, Breaking Bad, and Rubicon from that perspective. And I really don't think the level of development is underrated. Again, I'm happy with the show. I even liked the opening scene of the last episode. But I can still acknowledge the fact that there is not great character development, the racist redneck was/is not a good character, the grandma scene was cliche, and some of the dialogue is kinda shitty. There have also been some really great moments. I accept it, because I enjoy other aspects of the show enough to let it slide. That doesn't mean it's not unfair to want a little more from those aspects of the show. It's the difference between this being a good show and a great show imo.

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"I also don't think it's reasonable to toss out the length of time they have to work with. People don't bitch that the animated shorts before pixar films don't have as much development as the films themselves."

Right, because the character development in those shorts typically suffices. Think about that, they're able to achieve something in like 10 minutes that this show hasn't for more than maybe 2-3 characters in how many hours? I don't think character development has been horrible. There are a handful of characters I feel like I have a decent understanding of and care whether or not they make it. But those are really the main characters. The problem is with the secondary characters, who don't need that level of development... but they're lacking a good deal in creativity and what development they should have. The secondary characters are VERY flat and stereotypical.

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"Again, I think the whole takeaway point from that scene (and the whole subplot) was that these weren't tough guys, they were nice guys forced to act tough. It's made clear that the group was never all that gangster to begin with."

EVERYONE realizes that. It was a horribly cliche and lazy way to get to that point though.

[Edited on November 26, 2010 at 1:33 PM. Reason : s]

11/26/2010 1:30:51 PM

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"I don't think a little more character development is too much to ask for."

It isn't, and I would also like to see more. But there are people here demanding a good deal more than that and trashing the show for want of their unrealistic demands.

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""It's zombie fiction, therefore you should not expect anything different than any other movie/show with zombies" -- Do I have that right?"

No. But I wouldn't watch Mad Men or another character-driven drama and complain about lack of violence, which is pretty much in line with saying it's dumb to watch the Walking Dead or another zombie show/film and complaining about a lack of detailed character development. Again, I think it's fair to say that more would be good, but the people yelling about how this show sucks and they keep "almost" turning it off but don't for some reason, because of characterization...those guys suck.

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" The secondary characters are VERY flat and stereotypical."

Certainly, but then a number of them were clearly slated to die (during the raid), which I think would have made much effort into developing them a waste of time.

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"EVERYONE realizes that. It was a horribly cliche and lazy way to get to that point though."

Really? Because I'm seeing a whole lot of "Oh look how the tough guys aren't so tough when grandma shows up, that's gay, I totally saw that coming" and not a whole lot of, "Ohh, so the whole thing was a front made necessary by their circumstances."

11/27/2010 8:22:51 PM

I feel like the hype this show got before it aired has cut both ways. Most shows that have really liked didn't really become "GREAT" shows until the second season, compare any of your favorites, they generally aren't that wonderfully developed until after the first season. Mad Men, Breaking Bad, The Wire, etc. didn't start getting their hype until later when the show was "GREAT". Say what you want, but its an unfair comparison. If the second season sucks, you'll have a point, but if you don't like the first season, and you want a great show, just wait, if it becomes "GREAT" you'll start hearing about it just like you did the others.

11/27/2010 8:35:04 PM

Countdown to tonight's episode @ galaxy

11/28/2010 10:42:24 AM

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"Really? Because I'm seeing a whole lot of "Oh look how the tough guys aren't so tough when grandma shows up, that's gay, I totally saw that coming" and not a whole lot of, "Ohh, so the whole thing was a front made necessary by their circumstances.""

the ex-janitor now caretaker guy clearly stated that exactly when talking to Rick. So unless the viewers are deaf and not using CC, I think they got it. It's a slight twist on it, but the scene/plot device is still cliche and gay.

Plus, at what point do you move from "acting" tough to actually being tough? Is it still a front if they actually got into a fire fight with Rick and them and killed T-Bone or T-Dog or whatever his stupid name is? How about the fact that they were standing face to face with guns pointed at each other? Granted, their intentions change their character. But I'm pretty sure they still went from tough (from the viewer's perspective) to not so tough as soon as the grandmother appeared. Which again, is a very cliche scenario regardless of how tough the person in question actually is/was.

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"But I wouldn't watch Mad Men or another character-driven drama and complain about lack of violence, which is pretty much in line with saying it's dumb to watch the Walking Dead or another zombie show/film and complaining about a lack of detailed character development. Again, I think it's fair to say that more would be good, but the people yelling about how this show sucks and they keep "almost" turning it off but don't for some reason, because of characterization...those guys suck."

good characterization is part of good story telling. Violence is an element to some types of stories, and does not weigh heavily on the quality of story telling. It's NEVER dumb/unjustified to complain about good character development or characterization in fiction imo. You're right that it is dumb, however, to complain about there not being enough violence in Mad Men - there's no reason to expect much violence considering the subject matter. But that's more akin to someone complaining that there are too many dead people and not enough down-town night life scenes in The Walking Dead. It just doesn't fit the subject matter.

Good story telling fits all subject matters. But it seems some people just accept that some genres have historically poor story telling qualities and that trait sort of becomes part of the genre and in turn, an excuse. -- which i will never get on board with. I don't go into something like the expendables and expect some greatly acted and written film. That's not to say it couldn't have been well written and well acted. But the people behind the movie said it was an homage to 80's action movies, and all about explosions and what not. Storytelling was playing second, maybe third fiddle. But again, this show is on a network that touts its storytelling abilities. So criticizing extremely stereotypical characters and cliche scenes seems fair. But like ^^ said, they may be able to attract better talent (writers) for next season. And they may (hopefully) have more episodes to work with next season.

I will agree 100% though that it is dumb to complain week after week about how bad a show is and then continue to watch and post about how dumb it is.

[Edited on November 28, 2010 at 11:21 AM. Reason : ^]

11/28/2010 11:19:19 AM

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"I will agree 100% though that it is dumb to complain week after week about how bad a show is and then continue to watch and post about how dumb it is."

And yet, you continue to do exactly that...do the rest of us a favor and either stop watching/stop posting in here, or continue watching in anguish and still stop posting.

11/28/2010 11:46:23 AM

It's just as dumb to complain about people complaining, but still read their posts.

11/28/2010 12:14:56 PM

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"It's just as dumb to complain about people complaining, but still read their posts."

When you complain about the same shit endlessly, and have demonstrated a continued dislike for the show, it's fair ask them to quit while they're ahead.

I'm certainly no apologist for the show's shortcomings. Even though I had my expectations up in many areas before it started, I wasn't expecting groundbreaking television that would leave some indelible mark on the industry. Instead, I was excited that a channel with the resources and track record of AMC was putting their efforts into bringing a comic book, of all things, to life, and looked to take the entire project seriously, rather than creating some campy series.

So far, they've delivered.

I'm with a few of the complaints on here 100%, and a few others in spirit, but this show, like others that have gotten hyped for whatever reason, has attracted it's share of the "it's not cool to like anything" crowd, who center their existence on pointing out endless minutia and flaws.

If this show were only going to be the 6 episodes contained in this season, some of the complaints might hold more water. But I'm with whoever posted the comment about needing to wait for a show to develop before you become the judge, jury, and executioner on it.

A perfect example is the American version of The Office. The first few episodes fucking sucked in my opinion, but they gradually got better of the course of the first season (I watched the entirety of the UK version before the US version was ever announced, and loved it...so even though the first few US episodes were copies, I still thought they were poorly done). By the second season, the show had hit its stride, and my complaints and fears were mostly put to bed. I'm willing to give TWD the same chance.

11/28/2010 12:44:53 PM

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"Certainly, but then a number of them were clearly slated to die (during the raid), which I think would have made much effort into developing them a waste of time."

The fact that a character is going to die is no excuse not to develop them at least a little. Also, quality writing can develop a character in an extremely short amount of time (the first thing that jumps to mind is Hannibal Lecter.)

Anyway, I'm always up for giving a show at least two seasons. Parks & Recreation was not good in its first season despite how much I wanted it to be, but in giving it a second season they found the right tonal balance to make it an excellent show.

11/28/2010 12:53:57 PM

^^ i question your reading comprehension skills, sir. I think you'd be hard pressed to find an example of me truly "complaining" about this show that is not taken out of context. Have I pointed out and commented on some negative qualities? Absolutely. But I haven't really complained about them.

I only brought it up in support of those who were mentioning it and to present some reason to the fanboys who seem to think zombie fiction isn't subject to the same things that make good storytelling good in all other genres. I've said that I haven't let some of the lazy writing bother me personally because I like it as a whole. But I don't act like those negative qualities aren't there.

And I didn't even do that until this past week. So there goes your week after week bullshit.

For sake of discussion, let's say i didn't like this show but continue to watch and complain in this thread week after week (taking a break to remind you that this is not the case at all)... and you say you don't like reading about said complaints posted by me and others.... doesn't that kind of make you a hypocrite? I mean, you could stop reading this thread. You could stop commenting on people making negative comments. Yet you continue to read the thread and make said comments.

[Edited on November 28, 2010 at 1:12 PM. Reason : .]

11/28/2010 12:54:36 PM

Who's been complaining endlessly? It's pretty much a few people wishing there would be more character development after the last episode.

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"I'm willing to give TWD the same chance."

So am I. And I'll continue to watch and complain about things that could be improved until it's either fixed or the series becomes unwatchable. If you don't like that, you can just stop reading posts that are based in good taste.

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"before you become the judge, jury, and executioner on it. "

Ain't no one executing anything. Whether it's four episodes or forty, there's no problem in taking issue with bad writing.

11/28/2010 12:57:31 PM

and nobody's really trashing the show or telling you people that you're stupid for liking it

I really want to like it because there's obviously an opportunity for a good show here, it's just a little disappointing right now

11/28/2010 1:03:16 PM

oh lawd, put that bitch down, plz

11/28/2010 10:15:13 PM

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"I really want to like it because there's obviously an opportunity for a good show here, it's just a little disappointing right now"

agreed.

i guess the season finale looks interesting but....i really only liked the pilot episode and the second one was decent, too.

ton's episode was plain awful.

there is the opportunity for a good show. i thought the pilot was pretty awesome. every episode since then has gone progressively downhill. makes me uber disappointed.

[Edited on November 28, 2010 at 11:04 PM. Reason : .]

11/28/2010 11:03:53 PM

Um... OK. For the first time, I regret reading the comics before seeing this show. I wonder how much input the writers of the books have?

11/28/2010 11:04:43 PM

wow, tonight was a snorefest

11/28/2010 11:05:56 PM

so how did they fix the RV?

11/28/2010 11:09:54 PM

ha i still enjoy watching this show.. didn't think this episode was any better or worse than the rest.

makes me wonder who's responsible for overall creative direction, kirkman or darabont.. could be a direction kirkman wanted to explore, but couldn't with the comic. also the comic is written to be openended, i'm assuming with the tv show they have an endpoint in mind?

as for the rv, i have a feeling there will be a deleted scene on the DVDs when they come out explaining that. but who knows., i asked the same question. wasn't sure if there was an implied time lapse during that sequence.

also, did anyone catch the CDC scientist's name?

[Edited on November 28, 2010 at 11:24 PM. Reason : .]

11/28/2010 11:19:26 PM

I, too, wondered how they fixed the RV. Is it possible that it just overheated and it was able to pick up and go again after it cooled down a bit?

Also, I'd be really interested to know what happened outside the CDC building. There were tons of bodies everywhere. Maybe there was a big battle between the military and the zombies?

11/28/2010 11:34:59 PM

^^ I thought the same thing. They talked about some going out to find supplies and some staying behind and I just assumed that it happened off screen while they were doing Jim's scene.

11/28/2010 11:44:50 PM

I thought tonight's episode was better than the previous episode.

11/28/2010 11:49:18 PM

^^^^Last week's episode that most of us said sucked so bad was the first one written by Kirkman. And it was written entirely by him.

As most of you know, he writes comic books, not TV shows.

It was startling how bad it was and even more startling how some people were willing to defend such a horrible hour of television.

I hope last night's ep improved. I ain't watched it yet.

11/29/2010 6:50:21 AM

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"so how did they fix the RV?"

I lol'd when they were suddenly right back on the road.

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"It was startling how bad it was and even more startling how some people were willing to defend such a horrible hour of television."

Really?.....really? (I won't delve back into that debate, but still).

If you hated last week's episode, I can't fathom that you found or will find much to like in this one.

I enjoyed it, and thought that most of the character development problems should be a thing of the past...you've got the group culled down to a core unit (save for the addition of the researcher at the CDC) that the writers can hone in on. I thought this episode made some strides with Shane and Dale's characters, with a healthy bit of non-dialogue used to flesh them out.

I really didn't care for the sequence where Rick pleads to his wife for back up, and then Shane essentially does the same exact thing, but it was ended nicely with Rick seemingly almost stumbling his way into finding out about the affair. I also didn't like that Merle's story has been set aside for now-with everything that happened last episode, I sort of expected some sort of follow up, but I suppose we'll have to wait.

I can already tell it's gonna be a long ass year waiting for the second season...

[Edited on November 29, 2010 at 10:06 AM. Reason : .]

11/29/2010 10:05:47 AM

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"Really?.....really? (I won't delve back into that debate, but still)."

ha yea, i've enjoyed the season thus far (including kirkman's ep), definitely have been entertained. i don't profess to be a television critic, and i don't feel like i'm 'defending' anything. if you didn't like it, you didn't like it, if you did, you did, people have different opinions, like different things, etc etc..... i can't wait for season finale and for next season

haha and at the end of the ep.. apparently the CDC keeps those lights BRIGHT.

11/29/2010 10:25:15 AM

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"They talked about some going out to find supplies and some staying behind and I just assumed that it happened off screen while they were doing Jim's scene."

They never actually left... Shane was gonna go with a few people to the gas station that they thought they saw, but Shane never left. They were talking about going then Jim started talking about how he wanted to be left behind.

On a side note, isn't Jim being infected the main reason they went to the CDC? Why would they bother if Jim is dead? I guess they had already made it most of the way there but why risk going that close to the city?

[Edited on November 29, 2010 at 10:43 AM. Reason : ]

11/29/2010 10:41:48 AM

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"On a side note, isn't Jim being infected the main reason they went to the CDC? Why would they bother if Jim is dead? I guess they had already made it most of the way there but why risk going that close to the city?"

I'm pretty sure their options were CDC or Ft. Benning...CDC was chosen because of its close proximity.

Even though Jim was gone, they had hopes that survivors or any remnants of the government had circled the wagons at the CDC HQ. As soon as they got there and saw the doors locked down, they immediately started talking about trekking out to Benning.

11/29/2010 10:59:33 AM

does anyone know if they have the first 2 episodes on demand yet?

looks like yes from google


[Edited on November 29, 2010 at 11:34 AM. Reason : sdf]

11/29/2010 11:33:01 AM

watching previews from next week.. i'm excited to see how much they go into what happened in the greater US/world. the hinted at france, but i feel like in TWD, and even in other zombie works, they never talk about what happened outside the immediate characters.. i think it's why i like world war z so much.

(which in a non-TWD related note, you should really read WWZ if you haven't already)

11/29/2010 1:59:00 PM

^
I, too, was intrigued by the line saying something like France was the last country to hold out, but apparently fell at some point.

11/29/2010 2:20:24 PM

This is interesting in that it is a HUGE departure from the comics. In about 5 years' time, there's never been any information about how widespread this catastrophe is. I'm interested to see how it plays out.

11/29/2010 2:48:39 PM

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"France was the last country to hold out, but apparently fell at some point."

I find this amusing

11/29/2010 4:00:49 PM

I think I know who is watching the CDC scientist's video blogs:
Truman Burbank

11/29/2010 4:30:45 PM

You would think an island based country would be the last to hold out (such as Cuba in WW:Z)

11/29/2010 5:51:39 PM