I have less respect for the person who claims to believe something that is the key to fulfillment/life/truth/happiness, but keeps it to himself. Selfish bastards.

and if you enjoy taking things out of context, pdrankin, then i repeat...

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"ha, you don't even need to read context. just read ^ that verse. Jesus was addressing hypocrisy and pride. I would like to see the evidence for Tebow's hypocrisy and self-centered pride."

[Edited on December 16, 2011 at 4:18 PM. Reason : ]

12/16/2011 4:16:31 PM

I was pretty clear, there is nothing more self-centered and prideful that to believe god is taking a role in allowing you to win football games and letting children die of starvation. God would rather Tebow win. That is a self-centered world view.


i also find it humorous that you demand empirical evidence for Tebow acting self-centered, but (based on your posts) it seems you are a believer. Why not the same demand for empirical evidence?

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12/16/2011 4:19:06 PM

but I'm not entirely certain that Tebow is saying that. maybe he has, and I'm not gonna go searchin the interwebs for it, but from what I have seen, Tebow is thanking God for his talent and ability, which is a far cry from saying that God is helping him win games

12/16/2011 4:21:56 PM

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"""Tebow came to me and said, 'Don't worry about a thing,' because God has spoken to him," Woodyard told The Denver Post this week. It was Woodyard who then stripped Bears running back Marion Barber to hand the football -- and the game -- back to Denver.""

V I'm not searching through his interviews to find a quote. And even if there isn't one, he's made it pretty clear that he thinks god has blessed him with athletic talent and success. Quotes aren't needed.

[Edited on December 16, 2011 at 4:34 PM. Reason : ]

12/16/2011 4:24:04 PM

Yeah, I'm not sure where that statement came from besides his pastor, who Tebow disagrees with, since Tebow actually stated himself that God had bigger things to worry about.

so stop making stuff up.

^with the hundreds of interviews of Tebow talking about God, no one can find a quote from him? weak.

[Edited on December 16, 2011 at 4:25 PM. Reason : ]

12/16/2011 4:24:08 PM

actually, Tebow thanks God for everything he has, then thanks his teammates for winning the game.

There's nothing that's self-centered about that, and if you think otherwise, you're a gigantic douche.

12/16/2011 4:24:43 PM

@ aaronburro i think you raise a valid point. It has also been discussed that there are plenty of athletes who take a quick knee or give a point skyward to acknowledge their god, but Tebow makes a production out of it. His "kneel" goes on for quite some time and as such draws way more attention to himself than when Vick points up after rushing for a score. If he did a quick point and gave a quick knee most people probably wouldn't roll their eyes, but its disingenuous to say he doesn't make a production of it.




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12/16/2011 4:25:38 PM

are yall missing that quote right there where tebow told his teamate not to worry, because god spoke to him? maybe i'm reading too much into that (no), but i'm pretty sure he was saying that god told him they were going to win.

[Edited on December 16, 2011 at 4:27 PM. Reason : ]

12/16/2011 4:26:42 PM

@AXL Why is it that god seems to disproportionately give "gifts" and "bless" white people? Not just athletes, anecdotally (which can be argued here because anecdotal evidence is what religion is based off of) I have heard plenty of successful business men thank god for a bonus or for floor seats etc. You get my point.

God should spend more time blessing inner city children and children who are in poverty than middle-class white people is all.

12/16/2011 4:29:36 PM

Or the second hand quote was taken out of context?

Tebow is a notorious hard worker known for putting hours and hours of extra studying and video work in while his teammates are chasing pussy around.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=lc-carpenter_tim_tebow_alex_smith_draft_broncos_121411

Read if you actually want to know what HE says about it...

[Edited on December 16, 2011 at 4:34 PM. Reason : X]

12/16/2011 4:33:12 PM

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"Or the second hand quote was taken out of context?"

There it is again, "out of context". What do you mean? How could it have been taken out of context? They were losing, and he told his teamate not to worry because god spoke to him.

12/16/2011 4:35:41 PM

But there is no context to it! From everything I've read directly from Tebow he doesn't believe God is "pulling strings" for lack of a better phrase to win football games but rather inspiring him to put the hard work in and to best prepare him for those situations.

Maybe you're not doing it but many people seem to have this vision of Tebow where he is soft and thinks Gods will is what will help him win games which couldn't be further from truth..

12/16/2011 4:41:39 PM

Yeah, no, i definitely don't think he's soft. I know he's got a serious work ethic. There's no questioning that. However, he does think that god gifted him with his athletic abilities, right? So doesn't that suggest that he didn't gift other people? So he specifically selected Tebow to be a good football player?

12/16/2011 4:43:34 PM

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"but Tebow makes a production out of it."

yeah. on the sideline. away from the endzone. after everything has died down.
and it goes on for a bit? my god, he couldn't actually be praying, could he? what a dick!

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"are yall missing that quote right there where tebow told his teamate not to worry, because god spoke to him?"

are you missing the point, posted right after that, where people are questioning if he actually said it? It's a quote from someone else saying that Tebow said something. Surely, if Tebow were saying this shit left and right at news conferences, someone would have a clip of him directly saying it. maybe it exists. But that quote you gave us is suspect.

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"There it is again, "out of context". What do you mean?"

Pretty simple, actually. There's a "context" in which that quote was said. And maybe that context was Tebow talking to Woodyard about some rough times Woodyard was going through. Literally, we are given one sentence allegedly spoken by Tebow, and nothing else surrounding that sentence. You know, the context. Or maybe, the phrase "Don't worry about a thing" is pretty damned vague in its own right. And it's a quote that wasn't caught on tape or heard directly by a reporter. And it's not like the media would sensationalize anything about Tim Tebow right now, would it? naaaaaaaaaaaahhh

hell, we don't even know that what Tebow allegedly said was even said in the middle of the game!

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12/16/2011 4:47:51 PM

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"@AXL Why is it that god seems to disproportionately give "gifts" and "bless" white people? Not just athletes, anecdotally (which can be argued here because anecdotal evidence is what religion is based off of) I have heard plenty of successful business men thank god for a bonus or for floor seats etc. You get my point. God should spend more time blessing inner city children and children who are in poverty than middle-class white people is all."

you're right. a lot of people do that. and it's bull. bad theology. apparently they don't read their Bibles (where the truest followers of Christ were imprisoned, crucified, and beheaded).

if you really are interested though, I think Tebow (and many other Christians) would believe something along these lines. it's a long read: http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2011/12/13/tebow-calvin-and-the-hand-of-god-in-sports/

[Edited on December 16, 2011 at 5:01 PM. Reason : ]

12/16/2011 4:51:52 PM

^that was a good read (sincerely, because I know how the internet will misconstrue things) and I hope that is truly the case.

12/16/2011 6:11:18 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=lc-carpenter_tim_tebow_alex_smith_draft_broncos_121411

12/16/2011 7:03:37 PM

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/pastor-says-tmz-distorted-his-words-on-tebow-gods-favor/

12/17/2011 11:23:24 PM

look at tebow, making that cameraman film him! WHAT AN ASSHOLE!

12/18/2011 4:23:42 PM

Play of the year.

12/18/2011 4:24:39 PM

I could care less about the religious crap, I am rooting for Tebow. Fuck the haters...

12/18/2011 4:27:40 PM

lol, looks like a great move on my part playing the new england D. i was banking on the typical 3 quarters of denver shititude

12/18/2011 4:38:10 PM

word has it that Tebow said a curse word the other night when he stubbed his tow. That must explain why God made him fumble

12/18/2011 5:38:37 PM

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"I could care less about the religious crap, I am rooting for against Tebow. Fuck the haters lovers..."

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12/18/2011 5:50:13 PM

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocritesTebows are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues stadiums and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.


FIELD GOAL TIME

12/18/2011 5:55:07 PM

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"he stubbed his tow"

12/18/2011 6:02:25 PM

God is obviously busy preparing his son's surprise b-day party next week

Should also open up a few more seats on the bandwagon

12/18/2011 6:52:07 PM

Its Tebow time

12/18/2011 6:54:22 PM

Really? Surely Belichick won't get stupid in the face of Tebow.

Maybe it's just this one drive.

12/18/2011 6:55:32 PM

What pisses me off is that even if they lose we'll still have to listen to Tebow this, Tebow that all week.

12/18/2011 6:56:35 PM

God woke up for a second

12/18/2011 6:56:40 PM

if he needs to, Tebow will kick and recover the onsides, and if he doesn't get it (yeah right), he'll play defense and get a pick 6

12/18/2011 6:58:05 PM

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"What pisses me off is that even if they lose we'll still have to listen to Tebow this, Tebow that all week."

Only way this stops is if he loses out. If Denver makes the playoffs, this tebow shit will be horrible.

Praying to god that they lose out...

12/18/2011 6:59:46 PM

whose prayers do you think carry more weight? yours or tebow's?

12/18/2011 7:00:34 PM

He'll win the Super Bowl this year, get struck by lightning after the game and die, and go down as the greatest player in professional football history

12/18/2011 7:01:02 PM

Fuck that

12/18/2011 7:03:16 PM

he'll just come back again a few days later

12/18/2011 7:03:33 PM

exactly BigMan

try and keep up Pack_Bryan

12/18/2011 7:05:13 PM

jinx or no jinx. tebow ain't doing shit to win this game. stick a fork in the broncos.

12/18/2011 7:07:32 PM

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"whose prayers do you think carry more weight? yours or tebow's?"

That flew over your head.

12/18/2011 7:12:44 PM

God unveiling the 11th Commandment

Live, only on CBS

lol at the pumpfake 20 yards past the line of scrimmage

[Edited on December 18, 2011 at 7:15 PM. Reason : .]

12/18/2011 7:13:43 PM

lol at the pumpfake 20 yards past the line of scrimmage


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12/18/2011 7:16:17 PM

ahahahahahaha what a goddamn sack

12/18/2011 7:19:10 PM

29 yard loss

12/18/2011 7:19:16 PM

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12/18/2011 7:19:31 PM

he's going to find a way to score a 20pt touchdown

12/18/2011 7:24:42 PM

where's your god now

12/18/2011 7:26:59 PM

yeah, he'll take the loss today. I was hoping they would beat the Pats.

12/18/2011 7:27:11 PM

jesus christ is going to come down and take a shit on belichicks head for ruining this day.

12/18/2011 7:27:14 PM

he should put on some jorts real quick so he can be wearing them while he cries and shakes tom brady's hand

12/18/2011 7:28:25 PM