titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
Tariffs will directly and indirectly hurt his voting base so much. Question is will those people recognize that.
Pretty strong connection between our countries worse Presidents and improper or over use of tariffs.
This guy doesn’t know what he’s doing and now this could cause a massive economic meltdown or at the least he’s making sure everything we buy is going to cost more. 4/4/2018 7:48:10 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I still don’t understand how we are so ignorant to think we need a “businessman” to run the country but then pick the fakest celebrity conman in the entire world to be that guy. Kind of sad.
Quote : | "war on the border!" |
To be fair, the commander-in-Chief just didn’t understand the difference between the active military and the national guard. Obama and W both did this to help with logistics during their terms and both times it was a gigantic waste of money and inefficient.
[Edited on April 4, 2018 at 7:52 AM. Reason : Neither the president or any of his economic advisors could pass level 1 of the CFA. Kinda scary.]4/4/2018 7:51:28 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Question is will those people recognize that." |
absolutely no. even if the evidence is stamping a mushroom on their foreheads, it won't be because of tariffs. it will be millennials, obama, democrats, fakenews. Anything but the truth.4/4/2018 8:04:30 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
China's choice of corn products to tax/tariff is kinda bulletproof. Totally fits the administrations publicly stated logic. China subsidizes and overproduces steel, therefore tariffs. Well china:steel::US:corn. 4/4/2018 8:28:02 AM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
They're also targeting goods that are typically produced by those more associated as Trump's base supporters. Those Chinese are savvy. 4/4/2018 8:39:37 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
In theory, I’m in support of Trump’s decision to wind down our involvement in any proxy type wars like Syria.
But does anyone have a practical reader on what our withdrawal would potentially mean geopolitically and who stands to benefit the most? If this means we are just going to follow Bolton’s wet dream of a war with Iran that is obviously bad.
(I’d appreciate it if you guys could ignore Earls trolling or just troll him back with a one-liner on this topic) 4/4/2018 10:21:09 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Here I was worried we'd end up at war with North Korea, Russia, and/or Iran. Instead we're taking on China and Mexico. 4/4/2018 6:07:21 PM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Russia and China 4/4/2018 8:46:33 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
The problem with winding down proxy wars is twofold: one, we lose strategic positioning (consider the fact that Europe is a pretty pussified region) and two we completely pull the rug out from under any locals that have literally given everything to help is simply because they believe in our ideals and governmental system (our faults not withstanding). Thus expanding the ranks of our enemies.
Read American Spartan, for starters, for s good take on this.
These proxy wars piss every one off because every one thinks they accomplish nothing, make things worse and have nothing to do with US natsec.
The truth is, proxy wars typically keep us from fighting major wars, prevent nation's like Russia from ceding territory like Hitler did (Crimea is Obama's biggest failure and a lot of the fault lies with Bush), and relate directly to US natsec because without us Europe will allow itself to be overrun 10 times out of 10.
Without European security you have world war. It's as simple as that. And to do that we have to wage tactical battles in places like Syria.
That's my take. I'd cede any faults in my argument to duke or grumpy.
[Edited on April 4, 2018 at 10:10 PM. Reason : a] 4/4/2018 10:10:05 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I think it’s clear fealty to Putin is a big motivating factor for trump in Syria and trump is just going to keep fighting Iran in other ways. I think trump thinks he can flip Putin on Iran too, and it’s likely trump is not aware of how close Russia and Iran really are. 4/4/2018 10:38:39 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^ thanks. I’d rather we not be the worlds baby sitter but I also understand there are geopolitical tensions well above my comprehension that could absolutely effect us in the future.
Aside from that, can someone tell me what the obsession is this year with the annual refugee caravan that has happened every year for the past decade? Is it pure base red meat for a struggling demagogue? 4/5/2018 7:50:34 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Even Fox News doesn't believe Trump's lies about Amazon/Post Office.
https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/1994949360536544
So are there any consequences in the US for lying about what a company does or doesn't do? Isn't this slander?
What if I were to make up those lies and cause a company's market capitalization to drop by $53 BILLION? Would I get away with it?
WTF IS GOING ON WITH AMERICA?
Your president is lying left and right multiple times every single day and getting away with it, and many of them aren't white lies either, but full-fledged hoaxes and fabrications designed to cause damage. Not to mention, the worst damage is tens of millions of his imbecilic ilk falling for his lies, further deepening the hate and divide in the country between Americans, the effect of which will last for generations. 4/5/2018 2:34:05 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Keeps repeating his lies and conspiracy theories to keep to refresh the deplorables to make sure they stay hooked to him, like providing rotten meat to maggots.
http://www.foxla.com/news/politics/trump-repeats-his-unsubstantiated-claim-that-millions-of-people-voted-illegally-in-california
In terms of the hatred he is sowing, he is just as bad as OBL. 4/5/2018 6:52:22 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I’d rather we not be the worlds baby sitter" |
yea that's how most Americans feel, including me. but the only other nations with the power to lead are China and Russia.
Russia is a mafia state and China is building "citizenship ratings" and is absurdly repressive.
So unfortunately, we are all that's left, otherwise the world gets far more dangerous, particularly for us4/6/2018 3:53:04 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
so you're saying if we stop spending trillions of dollars to make the world more dangerous for us, the world will become more dangerous for us for free free?
[Edited on April 6, 2018 at 6:11 PM. Reason : Sounds like the better option even if we ignore the lack of reasoning for it being more dangerous] 4/6/2018 6:10:46 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i had to get a new suit tailored today and it makes me realize how much i hope trump starts a new trend for fashion and men's suits could go back to the 90's when everything was lose and comfortable and didn't need to be tailored 4/9/2018 5:03:07 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
I detest business clothes. 4/9/2018 8:44:49 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
those are only business clothes because you think they are. wear what you want. 4/9/2018 10:21:51 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Don’t wear flip flops to the office. 4/9/2018 11:22:09 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
fascinating look into the minds of the eleusis types: https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/
apparently the stormy daniels thing is just a multi-dimensional chess move to take down the clinton foundation https://i.redditmedia.com/WyP9_vhfK_UeQx1Q22gNMe3-Nyko5Q6Wn8lfdBn3GBw.png?fit=crop&crop=faces%2Centropy&arh=2&w=960&s=b0e4e645ea15f89dc26edcbf5a75f272 4/11/2018 10:10:37 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.npr.org/2018/04/11/601323110/wendy-vitter-wife-of-d-c-madam-senator-faces-thorny-hearing-to-be-federal-judge
Quote : | "Among the appearances Vitter failed to disclose was a panel she led in November 2013 called "Abortion Hurts Women," in which she endorsed a brochure that made a variety of unsubstantiated claims linking birth control pills to breast cancer, cervical and liver cancers, and "violent death."
On this last point — violent death — the brochure alleges that women who take oral contraceptives prefer men with similar DNA, and that women in these partnerships have fewer sexual relations, leading to more adultery, and "understandably ... violence."
3 Trump Judicial Nominees Withdraw, Raising Some Questions About Vetting LAW 3 Trump Judicial Nominees Withdraw, Raising Some Questions About Vetting All of these claims have been debunked by leading medical and scientific organizations. But Vitter urged the women at the conference to get their doctors to distribute the brochure." |
Quote : | "The American Bar Association gave Vitter's nomination its lowest qualified rating, with a minority of those reviewing her record rating her "unqualified."" |
4/11/2018 11:47:17 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Kind of interesting trump has actually been tweeting more policy since the Cohen thing (in addition to his normal craziness)
Seems like he’s trying to be a one-man good cop/bad cop routine with Russia
Tweeting threats to launch missiles at them, while simultaneously offering to help them economically
I could be wrong but I get the feeling Putin, unlike Kim Jong un, actually wants a war. Russia’s economy is already bad, a war is more likely to be beneficial economically for them than us 4/11/2018 1:37:23 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/04/11/the-white-house-would-like-a-mulligan-on-trumps-missiles-will-be-coming-tweet/
Epic 4/11/2018 6:57:21 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
National Enquirer paid to bury a story that trump has a secret child with a former employee
https://www.apnews.com/f37ecfc4710b468db6a103a245146172 4/12/2018 1:48:07 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
It would be more shocking if he didn’t have illegitimate children or hasn’t forced women to get abortions to me, tbh 4/12/2018 8:30:14 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
evangelicals will find a reason why it's okay and good 4/12/2018 8:35:11 AM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^^ This is the same lady that refused to answer if she supported Brown vs Board of Education.
I get that its a slippery slope to start giving opinions on previous supreme court cases, but come on, Brown is a softball. 4/12/2018 9:22:15 AM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
4/12/2018 12:40:13 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
he hasn't broadcast any plans!
Quote : | " @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago
Never said when an attack on Syria would take place. Could be very soon or not so soon at all! In any event, the United States, under my Administration, has done a great job of ridding the region of ISIS. Where is our “Thank you America?”" |
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/984374422587965440
see! he never said when! it could be very soon or not so soon!
Trump solved ISIS, what more do you want?!4/12/2018 12:42:36 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
such a whiny little cunt 4/12/2018 2:50:05 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Of course it would be his fucking housekeeper he had a kid with (allegedly). This season is just all over the place.. 4/12/2018 3:48:53 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
^Didn't Arnold Schwarzenegger knock up his undocumented mistress? I feel like at this point, the writing is so bad it's just recycling old storylines.
[Edited on April 12, 2018 at 3:54 PM. Reason : .] 4/12/2018 3:53:56 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
i wonder if his 3d chess move is to say hes going to attack knowing hes not going attack to seem strong and art of deal his way through the situation. thats the only way to make sense of the "broadcast our plans" hypocrisy. you cant give away your actual plans if the broadcasts are all over the place 4/12/2018 3:56:04 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder if Jill Stein is going to sing like a canary since she was nothing but a useful idiot to Trump during the election and now she might be royally fucked? 4/12/2018 3:59:18 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
why are you so obsessed with someone who got so little of the vote. its all you talk about. 4/12/2018 4:41:06 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not obsessed with her at all, but it's pretty obvious she helped Trump win. The fact that you voted for her is YOUR fault, not mine 4/12/2018 5:00:28 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
this is how russia got the earl's to vote for trump https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4624738/jill-stein-trump-hillary 4/12/2018 5:05:57 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
If you didn't support Bernie, you helped Trump win. 4/12/2018 5:08:05 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
People make mistakes sometimes, and while it's normal to feel ashamed/embarrassed, admitting them and learning from poor decisions is a good thing. Try it sometime. 4/12/2018 5:12:15 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Damn, read half of that and thought you were apologizing for your own error 4/12/2018 5:14:58 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/12/politics/comey-book-golden-showers/index.html
lol 4/12/2018 6:17:57 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
It’s real.
[Edited on April 12, 2018 at 6:27 PM. Reason : And why are people acting surprised Comey called him similar to a mob boss? He always has been..] 4/12/2018 6:24:08 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
You know what would help turn things around for Trump?
If he came out and just admitted a lot of the things he's been accused of that most normal people know to be true. Then once he's admitted the things he's done out there, the news, at least some of it, would go away.
- the golden showers - the Stormy/playmate affairs - the possible illegitimate child - crowd sizes -
Then when he's admitted those things and the news has quieted, he should tell us what he's doing to do better.
Instead he's going to linger. 4/13/2018 7:54:34 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Has Trump ever even met Scooter Libby? I'm presuming this is a signal that he'll pardon Manafort if he hangs long enough. 4/13/2018 8:32:48 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
No no, remember this is Trump so the motivation is always personal. The special prosecutor who investigated Libby was appointed by Comey. 4/13/2018 9:00:14 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Not sure where this goes but Greenwald’s breakdown this morning is a sight to see. Completely missing the point that it’s not about his sexual acts but about his obsession with keeping them quiet and how that can be leveraged against him. 4/13/2018 9:02:48 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-asked-source-to-go-on-tv-to-call-on-him-to-fire-robert-mueller/ 4/13/2018 12:56:12 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2018/04/13/daily-202-trump-s-plan-to-pardon-scooter-libby-sends-a-message-to-witnesses-in-mueller-probe/5ad01f9530fb046acf7bcc37/?utm_term=.e0ceae0ad000 4/13/2018 1:35:16 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don’t know Mr. Libby, but for years I have heard that he has been treated unfairly" |
You have got to be kidding me with this explanation4/13/2018 1:46:20 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Remember when Trump said he was "the law and order candidate" during the debates? 4/13/2018 2:06:46 PM |