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"-he wasn't a UVA legend"

being a school legend...where have i heard this argument for why a coach was a good coach before...











































Sid has one more year and if you want to keep waiting after that then I suggest you do a ncstatetke and follow sid to his next job.

[Edited on February 28, 2010 at 11:44 PM. Reason : .]

2/28/2010 11:43:11 PM

the DEFINITIVE Southeastern Alabama A&T 2010-11 BBall Thread

2/28/2010 11:57:31 PM

^ boy, you just dont learn do you? stop these damn threads bout teams other then NC State on this here message board


you just better hope i dont see your ass during deer season or i may just go dick cheney on your monkey behind

3/1/2010 12:39:50 AM

Can we please just ban the fake hick already? Please?

3/1/2010 12:46:20 AM

^ i aint no hick, but i am a honest to God redneck and damn proud of it

you got a problem with that, son?

3/1/2010 12:49:20 AM

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"Can we please just ban the fake hick already? Please? "

3/1/2010 1:40:57 AM

Look you fucking dope no one is arguing that close losses are good. The point that I made that everyone else seems to understand but you is that we are actually very close to being on the bubble this year despite the fact that we suck and have some unproductive players in the rotation.


We don't need harrow and lo brown to be saviors to make the tournament next year. We need them to make positive contributions. If they do happen to be sick, which may be the case we are a borderline top 25 team next year.

Is it really going to burn your vagina so badly to watch 2-3 more losses this season that you just can't resist having a menstrual attack on the rest of us?

You shouldn't even be allowed to enjoy our success next season

3/1/2010 8:07:40 AM

^ finally someone with sum goddam sense round here! I think I like you rallydurham

3/1/2010 9:07:08 AM

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"very close to being on the bubble"

The NIT bubble? We are nowhere near the NCAAT. I don't know where you newfound optimism is. We are #116 in the RPI. We aren't even on the NIT bubble yet.

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"You shouldn't even be allowed to enjoy our success next season"

Since you know everything, what is going to be our record next year with great talent?

3/1/2010 12:00:10 PM

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"We were up TEN points in the 2nd half against UVA before we went into a ~10 minute scoring drought. The game was tied with like 4 minutes to go, how can you say we wouldn't have won if we'd played a little bit better. The GT loss was an impressive effort actually. They were MUCH bigger than us and if not for an outstanding game by Peacock we would have had them. The Clemson game if Scott Wood could hit an open jumper or Smith hits a FT we probably win the game. "

I hate it when people say shit like this. You know why?? Because every team we beat can say the same shit about why they lost. That's why a Win is a Win and a Loss is a Loss. Shut the fuck up with shit like this.

3/1/2010 12:13:27 PM

Again every point I make goes over your head.

If you take five very close losses and turn them into wins holding all else equal we are a bubble team RIGHT NOW.

All that is assuming is that we are marginally better next year which is a very safe assumption as we aren't losing anything, have good incoming talent, and have a young rotation which should be better next year.

Do you really think harrow won't be an improvement over mays at the backup pg position??

Follow along.


I can't make a valid predicition of our record next year when we have no idea if we have superfrosh yet or just solid contributors. Also we don't know yet for sure if our competitors are losing davis, lawal, favors, aminu, and alabi or other random transfers.

Its very likely that most of them will be gone (lawal being the most uncertain) but obviously that's an important detail

3/1/2010 12:19:36 PM

if you take ASU's close losses against Duke, BYU, Baylor, Cal x 2, they'd be 25-4 with a top-20 RPI and would be a lock for a #2 or #3 seed in the tourney

3/1/2010 12:24:21 PM

who cares about asu. i'm sure they have a message board.

3/1/2010 12:29:31 PM

IF you take our 4 close wins and turn them into losses we're 0 for the season in ACC play

3/1/2010 12:30:38 PM

^^ that is patently false.

We have the oldest statistics program in the fucking country and the sick part us 80pct of our student population and alumni is too stupid to understand an intro course.

You show me where in this seasons data set we have won a game on an single play (event) that had a ~2% or less of happening. Also show me a game that we won that we would have lost if their most significant player was missing for.


How do you look at this data and control for noise?

Oh that's right you lack the reading comprehension to understand the point so you can't even begin to grapple with statistical analysis so you go with a "win is a win and a loss is a loss". Where do I sign up for your philosophy course you fucking lesbo-rights preserving, obama voting, twig and nut eating loon?

3/1/2010 12:36:05 PM

rally = farmboy69


exposed!

3/1/2010 12:42:46 PM

lol

this

thread

is

epic

3/1/2010 12:59:07 PM

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"All that is assuming is that we are marginally better next year which is a very safe assumption as we aren't losing anything, have good incoming talent, and have a young rotation which should be better next year. Do you really think harrow won't be an improvement over mays at the backup pg position??"

Problem is we still have Sidney as coach. He hasn't shown me any ability to develop talent. And when he is able to bring in top talent, he can't build a cohesive team that can win games. Next year may be different. But we're banking a lot on 2 incoming freshmen and a still unproven coach.

3/1/2010 1:01:33 PM

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"He hasn't shown me any ability to develop talent"

wat?

3/1/2010 1:07:03 PM

I would say Gonzalez and Smith have shown marked improvement over the course of their tenure here; Gonzalez especially.

3/1/2010 1:08:27 PM

I'd say every player has shown marked improvement. Except CJ. But he's been playing well as of late, and it's still early in his career.

3/1/2010 1:14:20 PM

thank you for settin these liberal mutherfuckers straight rallydurham... NC State needs more fans like you

and ncstatetke, I'm gonna kick your ass if I hear one more goddam thing about arizona state!

3/1/2010 1:37:35 PM

Yeah, there was a great story on Smith that talked about the coaches working with him in practice. This is the one that talked about them using a broom to simulate taller players. It also talked about the coaches helping to get his left hand on par with his right hand (when shooting). He basically gave the coaching staff credit for turning him into the player he is today.

3/1/2010 2:07:21 PM

uh, wtf does liberals/conservatives have to do with sports?

3/1/2010 2:11:47 PM

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"I would say Gonzalez and Smith have shown marked improvement over the course of their tenure here; Gonzalez especially."

It is amazing how much a 2 game win streak will change people's opinion of our guards. A week ago they didn't have the talent to carry Smith's jock strap without turning it over.

[Edited on March 1, 2010 at 4:29 PM. Reason : ']

3/1/2010 4:29:26 PM

Except Ive held that opinion since the first few games of the season.

3/1/2010 4:32:10 PM

He's not saying he's a great PG. He's saying he's improved since he's been here. Some nights, Javi is truly great. Others, he's pretty average.

Regardless, he's much better than he was a freshman.

3/1/2010 4:33:41 PM

Exacatly. Javi is an average to below average ACC pg, who has had some great games this season. He's improved each year and come a long way since his freshman year. He's still an average to below average ACC pg though. It is what it is.

3/1/2010 4:36:12 PM

he's not Gavin Grant bad

3/1/2010 5:02:00 PM

agreed, Javi has definitely improved every year that he's been here, the only problem is, he doesnt have a very high ceiling so he probably wont ever be an elite or even above average PG in the acc. If he were to be a little more consistent in his shots (when he needs to actually be a shooter) and improve his assist to turnover ratio he would be a good game manager type PG, but he'll never be a real difference maker.

Harrow is coming in with the ability to be a game-changing PG, not just a game manager

3/1/2010 5:07:29 PM

Javi has shown a lot of improvement over the last few weeks too!!!

last 3 games = 1 turnover per game
previous 3 games = 5 turnovers per game


p.s. i hope he can go the rest of the season with less than 12 turnovers! don't want to reach the dubious 100 turnover plateau

[Edited on March 1, 2010 at 5:11 PM. Reason : l]

3/1/2010 5:09:43 PM

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"JaviSid is an average to below average ACC pgcoach, who has had some great games this season. He's improved each year and come a long way since his freshman first year. He's still an average to below average ACC pgcoach though. It is what it is."

3/2/2010 11:27:37 AM

3/2/2010 11:37:35 AM

3/2/2010 12:04:58 PM

3/2/2010 1:01:13 PM

3/2/2010 1:05:36 PM

Duke has the best efficiency ranking of any school in a major conference during conference play.

That says even more about how impressive that win was considering how we destroyed them for easy buckets

3/2/2010 2:51:25 PM

I'm beggining to wonder if the thread title isn't a clever use of self homage by its creator

Similar to the Bobcats

[Edited on March 2, 2010 at 2:52 PM. Reason : x]

3/2/2010 2:52:32 PM

This is going to be a tough game.

They really punched us in the mouth last time and its a huge game for their NCAA chances at home.

I don't expect us to do great tonight, I'd be fairly impressed with a tight loss.

3/3/2010 5:25:39 PM

i'm actually rooting for State tonight! a bad loss like this would really hurt VT's bubble and the door would open, ever so slightly, for ASU

3/3/2010 5:28:58 PM

so you were rooting for state's opponents on the other days?

3/3/2010 5:32:23 PM

i've been indifferent since April 2, 2006

3/3/2010 5:38:09 PM

You're such a douche.

I have no doubt you've probably got at least five other active accounts that post in ST.



[Edited on March 3, 2010 at 5:40 PM. Reason : not including the plethora that has been banned lately]

3/3/2010 5:40:17 PM

i'm proud to say that I've only had one alias in all my years on TWW and I gave it away and don't even know the password anymore

God's honest truth!

3/3/2010 5:42:44 PM

then you need to go to ASU's TWW
you'll find more friends there

3/3/2010 5:56:35 PM

I have no interest in any facet of ASU, other than my good buddy, Herb Sendek

3/3/2010 6:21:59 PM

I am fucking pissed off that Raycom is not showing this game.

NC State has officially hit "bottom" today. We are on a V shaped recovery from this moment on, period.

Lowe has done a really good job this season which is why I have newfound optimism in his abilities.

Starting next game this program is turning shit around.

3/3/2010 6:24:18 PM

haha lowe has done a really good job

oh rally, you always bring a smile to my face


so who will sid be rooting harder for this weekend, us or fsu?

3/3/2010 10:31:59 PM

^^troll

I'll admit, you had me early on. GG Rally. Won't happen again though.

3/3/2010 11:06:49 PM

3/3/2010 11:14:59 PM