Arg, shit froze in the middle of Arathi Basin and now I can't log back in.

1/9/2006 8:26:30 PM

yea ab bug

just wait a sec keep trying and youll get back in. it should be fixed soon

1/9/2006 9:12:20 PM

honestly I've no idea what immo did to get down there... lol raid was full when I got home so I just went to ab doing the MC portion of the book quest tonight and hopefully onyxia. doing BWL- finish tomorrow hopefully dragon wed or thursday. so stay tuned !

1/9/2006 9:38:09 PM

I've been freezing like crazy in AB too


I think it has something to do with shields (paly/priest)

1/9/2006 11:32:28 PM

had a rogue tank onyxia. fun times.

1/9/2006 11:35:02 PM

^^ tons of ppl i know are freezing in ab, its just a memory leak in the patch. if you notice when you freeze your computer says its at 99 or 100%

1/9/2006 11:37:28 PM

ah no wonder


I can't even alt+tab out sometimes

1/9/2006 11:40:31 PM

yea :-/

theres a thread on the tech support page about it. I made one and kept it bumped for days without a response. they finally responded to another and have FINALLY admitted it is a problem on their end and they are looking into it

1/9/2006 11:50:21 PM

This is old, but I found a good picture of it.

1/10/2006 12:22:41 AM

^ ooo i want that.

1/10/2006 7:42:42 AM

seems like a rip off of soul calibur

1/10/2006 8:59:10 AM

where the heck would that drop? because that is a LOT better than the HWL/GM 2handers for warrirors, and just insanely better and not proportional to the rest of the game. that would need to be like after the expansion or something when ppl are 70

and since it only says requires level 60 it makes me very very skeptical.

i mean heck, drake talon cleaver off of nefarian is what only 310 high end base damage?
and only a small percentage of ppl are through there on each server for the most part.

[Edited on January 10, 2006 at 9:42 AM. Reason : ]

1/10/2006 9:40:46 AM

Submitted a ticket yesterday and I'm going to submit another one bitching about the char limit on tickets.

We're downing hakkar, and then all of a sudden the sons stop dropping poison. Nice.

Wipe.

Downing hakkar again, 10%, yay, free purples....THE ENTIRE FUCKING INSTANCE RESETS.

wtf?

We all get booted, log back on, and a fuckton of Mobs are on us with Hakkar going totally apeshit. Our instance timer had 5hrs on it. Everything had respawned.

1/10/2006 10:09:09 AM

Last night during Onyxia we had our MT dps tanking, which usually works well enough, but someone dropped the ball and let him die at 10%, we still had other tanks up but in the confusion no one was sure who to heal. We got Onyxia down to 1% when the last person was about to die we had the shamans pop'n'shock and one was supossed to stay down, but right as the last shaman died he popped, but she was starting to walk back like she was going into Phase 2. He kills her with a signle lightning bolts crit, but dies to whelps.

When we get back into the instance there are whelps waiting at the cave and 8 warders that respawn within 10 seconds of dying. The whelps are also infinitely respawning. We have everyone in the raid run to onyxia with tanks pulling the warders away from the group, but even then getting to her through 8 warders is almost impossible. Only one person was able to get loot (a Deathbringer).

So we move on to BWL to do broodlord attempts and decide to call it off on the account that a lot of people needed to leave soon. So I do /raidinfo just to see when we can redo Onyxia and it doesn't show up. We make a few calls and regroup and do her again without any problems. The same exact helms drop but a Vis'kag and Ring of Binding drop instead of the Deathbringer and Eskhander's Collar like the time before. Regretably I passed on the Vis'kag to another rogue (I wanted a Perdition's Blade and I'm still top of points). But now I wish I had just taken the sword and gone combat, I was just afriad that I wouldn't like being a sword combat rogue and I would be stuck that way for a while (rogues aren't allowed to change weapon spec for a few months after taking weapons). So tonight Rag better drop my dagger and Garr and Domo better keep those other daggers away from me.

1/10/2006 11:12:36 AM

Wait Wait

You skipped out on Vis for perditions?

1/10/2006 11:19:21 AM

Quote :

"i mean heck, drake talon cleaver off of nefarian is what only 310 high end base damage? and only a small percentage of ppl are through there on each server for the most part."

Drake Talon Cleaver http://www.thottbot.com/?i=44410 off the drakes before Nefarian, not off Nefarian himself. Nefarian drops Ashkandi http://www.thottbot.com/?i=51920 . That weapon probably drops off one of hte last bosses in AQ, which would make perfect sense, given the current rate of weapon progression. On top of that, a lot of warriors may still prefer Ashkandi because of how superior sword spec is. Although, that proc is pretty fucking kick ass.

1/10/2006 12:13:53 PM

19 AGI?

thats hunter loot.

1/10/2006 12:20:08 PM

Quote :

"Wait Wait You skipped out on Vis for perditions?"

Makes perfect sense for me. Sword spec rogues are more focused on building up combo points then hitting hard. Dagger rogues are focused on instant damage and less reliance on combo points and plus have 2 more skills (Backstab and Ambush).

You'll be happier with daggers IMO Azaka. Perditions + FotF or Perditions + Corehound tooth both works great. Most of the good pvp I know are daggers.

[Edited on January 10, 2006 at 1:48 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2006 1:37:39 PM

dark edge of insanity does infact drop off the final boss of AQ40


a warrior with that and 2 healers are going to reign on high above the first server to get one.... have fun with that


in PVE (mind you not pvp) combat rogues will outdamage dagger rogues consistantly, over the long haul, high consistant damage >>> bursting very high damage that can dip with a bad string of non crits.


secondly with the extensive nurf to sword spec currnetly even spinal reaper is superior to every sword in the game other than 2. Dark edge of instanity will walk all over every weapon in this game..... I mean seriously proc a blind ? gg overpowered.

Unless sword spec is fixed soon, most warriors are going to switch to axes. the 1-2% chance to proc an extra swing off -only- white hits isn't making up for the 5% extra crit axes give you, that combined with the spinal reaper proc makes for an easy decision.

ps for the record I know sword spec proc is "supposed" to be 5% but in acctuallity currently it's only procing 1-3% off white hits. tested it for the last week, and I'm still getting the same results.

if you can get an axe with 300 topend+ get it... if you can get a mace 300+ top end get it. if you can't stick with a sword.


[Edited on January 10, 2006 at 1:47 PM. Reason : k]

1/10/2006 1:41:38 PM

^ I'm using Bonereaver's Edge atm. Going for either Ashkandi or Sulfuras next.

1/10/2006 1:49:51 PM

Quote :

"Wait Wait You skipped out on Vis for perditions?"

Let's duel after I get my Perdition's and we'll see what you think when I 2 shot you.

[Edited on January 10, 2006 at 3:23 PM. Reason : This is Azaka]

1/10/2006 3:23:02 PM

omg alicia is going to pone ppl

1/10/2006 4:33:26 PM

sword spec is still superior to mace spec...even with the underproccing.

my mace spec never goes off like at all. and i have TUF (chance to stun on hit) plus full into mace spec and sword spec still procs more for my warrior friend that i PVP with all the time.

I dono if ppl are just resistance to stun or what. in PVE it procs about right, but in PVP mace spec has proven to be useless for me even after 1.9.

I want an axe back bad, too bad there is none that are even close to me obtaining

1/10/2006 4:49:26 PM

it seems like every time i fight a mace spec warrior in PvP that shit procs... can be rather annoying... expecially when said mace is Sulfuras

1/10/2006 8:09:31 PM

it procs for me MAYBE once every few one-on-one fights. if im lucky.

1/10/2006 8:54:42 PM

http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/imageview.php?screenshotID=1088&typeID=3


HOLY SHIT! I'll start saving DKP starting.... now.

1/10/2006 8:57:11 PM

so very fake

1/10/2006 10:05:18 PM

actually it's been confirmed that it drops in AQ

1/10/2006 11:26:35 PM

looks legit

a bit better then staff of shadow flame + a hakkar trinket proc on the staff. good idea.

1/11/2006 12:49:38 AM

no way that's real. I don't trust blizzard to make a legendary caster item that I would actually want. the real legendary caster staff is gonna have a bunch of mana regen and spirit or some shit like that. here's hoping i get my Staff of the Shadow Flame tommorow night.

1/11/2006 1:06:04 AM

I don't buy it. I remember that reporters from blizzcon stated that the devs said there were no Castor legendary items in the game and none were planned on being implemented due to the fact that it would be hard to balance out the needs of all castors.

In other news

Best PVP video evar. From a guildie:


http://files.filefront.com/Woolwmv/;4588577;;/fileinfo.html

1/11/2006 1:25:05 AM

My first character played on a PvE server and I hit level 60 in no time. Then I transfered to a PvP server and it took me twice as long to level to 60 on my mage. Face it, PvE is far easier. "Carebear" is a term given out to people that play on PvE servers, not PvPers that bitch about dieing to alliance. Think about the word for a second. Who do you suppose cares more about dieing to other players... People on a combat restricted server, or people on an unrestricted combat server? That should be a no brainer. Besides, if you have ever played on a PvP server, you would know of the regularity of dieing to the opposing faction. PvP makes dieing to the opposing faction rather anticlimactic, since ganking happens so frequently. PvPers are actually less likely to complain about ganking, since they receive as much ganking as they dish out. PvE is totally carebear, sorry. I'm surprised you even know what ganking is actually. I prefer the PvP motto, "If you're red, you're dead." The PvE motto is, "If you're yellow, I cannot attack you unless you are in a contested region or if you initiate a duel with me." Doesn't roll off the tongue very well, now does it? Plus, PvP servers have the best players because they have to manage an entire faction as they level and just roam the world. PvE characters don't have to try as hard to receive the exact same rewards as a PvP character.

[Edited on January 11, 2006 at 8:45 AM. Reason : -]

1/11/2006 8:43:38 AM

we downed razorgore last nite for the first time. we've been practicing pretty hard on him for the past couple of weeks and i'm glad we finally got that hurdle done with.

1/11/2006 8:54:37 AM

^^oh wow man

thanks for explaining something everyone and their fucking mother already knew in this thread.

not only that, its already been discussed a million times.

gg

[Edited on January 11, 2006 at 8:55 AM. Reason : *]

1/11/2006 8:55:11 AM

So in short, unless you play on the Horde side of a PvP server you suck at life and should quit the game now because your virtual penis is not as big as theirs.

1/11/2006 8:55:23 AM

You can totally play an NE Chick and not be a fag though.

1/11/2006 9:40:58 AM

i guess im just old

i remember when people played video games for the fun of it

1/11/2006 9:50:53 AM

Lokken you are the one that said PvPer's "QQ" more than PvEer's, and that they are the real carebears. Then I respond to your post with a boat load of logic, and you pretend to have already agreed with me from the beginning. pfffff

1/11/2006 10:09:31 AM

Anyway, once character transfers start we should all move onto the same server. That way we can have two opposing guilds beating the crap out of eachother and talking trash on TWW FTW.

1/11/2006 11:08:47 AM

^^ read again man, read again.

[Edited on January 11, 2006 at 11:09 AM. Reason : *]

1/11/2006 11:08:53 AM

All TWW horde guilds would fail as everyone would quit over Porcha taking all the loot.

1/11/2006 11:25:36 AM

Nerd first loot system.

1/11/2006 11:27:45 AM

Sorry Lokken, it was Shadowrunner that said that, not you. My bad, but you should transfer to a PvP server, because you haven't played World of Warcraft until you have played on a PvP server. Oh yeah, and I doubt I need any reminding of what is in this thread, since I've been posting in it since the very first page. You are right, most of the stuff that McDanger/SandSanta/Golovko/Me/0/Bous/Quinn/Stein have already said has been repeated several times over.

[Edited on January 11, 2006 at 11:56 AM. Reason : -]

1/11/2006 11:51:39 AM

whtever the hell happened to McDanger?

i miss the early days of the Waagh . Wish stormreaver didnt suck so much then taht you all left

1/11/2006 12:20:34 PM

Waagh Brigade was the shit. I haven't really been in a good guild since.

1/11/2006 12:21:36 PM

same. ive been in some casual guilds and what not, but that was fun. it ended way to early for me to fully enjoy it too since i was in the 30s or so.

1/11/2006 12:22:37 PM

Woo, just ran through the cave to Winterspring and got my runecloth bag recipe.

1/11/2006 12:29:51 PM

Once character transfers are up, Waagh is reforming. No worries

1/11/2006 12:52:45 PM

hehe. would be a nice thing to consider for sure

1/11/2006 12:55:20 PM

Quote :

"Lokken you are the one that said PvPer's "QQ" more than PvEer's, and that they are the real carebears. Then I respond to your post with a boat load of logic, and you pretend to have already agreed with me from the beginning. pfffff{/quote] Don't say you have a boat load of logic with stuff like: [quote]The PvE motto is, "If you're yellow, I cannot attack you unless you are in a contested region or if you initiate a duel with me." "

Not only is that illogical, it's flat out false. If someone is yellow, they are attackable regardless of location.

Quote :

"Who do you suppose cares more about dieing to other players... "

Obviously the guy who bitches and moans about dieing to other players cares more. I may play on a PvE server with my main, but I usually play flagged. Do I care if I die...no. It's just nice from time to time to be able to get shit done in a timely fashion when I have other things I need to do other than sit down and play WoW.

As for this:

Quote :

"PvE characters don't have to try as hard to receive the exact same rewards as a PvP character."

It depends entirely on what rewards you are talking about. Many quest rewards come out of instances, so PvE, PvP, that statement is irrelevant. Also, since PvP action is a lot more sparse on PvE servers, it's much harder to get the PvP rewards on a PvE server than on a PvP server. That's something that needs to be taken into consideration.

Quote :

"PvE characters don't have to try as hard to receive the exact same rewards as a PvP character."

Merely an opinion, not logic.

1/11/2006 1:21:54 PM