Y'all just need to

2/26/2014 10:30:20 AM

Now I need to figure out a good way to mention in an interview that I can't have kids and won't bring this drama to their workplace.

2/26/2014 12:33:56 PM

Wonder what would happen if a guy went into the break room, pulled out his junk and started pumping it.

2/26/2014 12:46:44 PM

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"But you can't say it's unacceptable. That's a lie."

OMG! IT'S FUCKING UNACCEPTABLE. And companies should prepare for this, like they have prepared for every other social movement or human need in the past.

A women who plans to still work while taking care of a baby should be treated with enough respect to not have to pump in the bathroom for however long she chooses to breastfeed her child. She is giving the company HER time. The least they can do is help her take care of her baby as mush as possible.

I'm sorry there are companies out there to do not have space, and therefore make women put other employees out because they -- as an entity -- refuse to give their employees some privacy in these types of situations. But if we continue to say it's "ok" or "acceptable" to breastfeed or pump in a bathroom, then people will continue to do so in disgust, and companies will never need to change their operations in order to continue saving those pennies that they must be saving by being assholes.

North Carolina has a shit ton of work to do on maternity reform, and the like (as in NC DOESN'T have a maternity policy, at all). So these things need to happen, and people still need to get upset so that reform can happen.

Companies like SAS, Cysco, Google, and and the like are popular employment place BECAUSE they take care of their employees and allow them to live their life while still being very much a part of a company. That's why those companies are popular.

2/26/2014 12:49:52 PM

^^You should have a go and report back.

Quote :

"Now I need to figure out a good way to mention in an interview that I can't have kids and won't bring this drama to their workplace."

I think pumping drama is the least of your worries.

[Edited on February 26, 2014 at 12:51 PM. Reason : ]

2/26/2014 12:49:56 PM

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"Mtan Man214: Oh yeah, i guess I missed that part in the FAQ that explains the intent of the law and clearly spells out that bathrooms are a no-no because it's dehumanizing, and that they are in fact perfectly acceptable environments to prepare food in. Or maybe I'm missing something here. I guess you're the next Ina May and have written the book on breastfeeding and pumping."

Depending on the attitude of your employer and the quality of your restroom, it can be dehumanizing. Furthermore, pumping in the restroom can be inconvenient enough that many mothers just stop doing it altogether. They are often too embarrassed or intimidated to ask for another place. Since breastfeeding is regarded as a good thing, the government is enforcing a policy that will protect and promote pumping in the workplace.

If you'd like to understand more about why these laws exist, you can read the notes here:

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=43.70.640

Please note that at no place did they say, "Eww, restrooms are gross!" For sure, a lot of restrooms are gross, but that still doesn't mean women who pump in there are being unsanitary and endangering their children.

2/26/2014 12:53:37 PM

Your link is riddled with notations on sanitary, hygienic and cleanliness standards. On its face a restroom is disqualified. Are you really going to argue that floating poop particles in the air are fine to contaminate breastmilk?

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"There are 120 viruses in feces, so when a toilet is flushed, water particles with more than 25,000 virues particles and 600,000 bacteria are ejected from the toilet bowl and can travel up to 20 feet away from the toilet. These particles will last several hours and have the potential, especially in public toilets, to cause disease. These water particles can contain bacteria such as salmonella, E.Coli or streptococcus. Inhaling contaminated airborne particles is unhealthy for individuals or groups of people who use private bathrooms and public restrooms."

http://www.germterminator.com/article/USAToday.pdf

[Edited on February 26, 2014 at 1:03 PM. Reason : ]

2/26/2014 1:00:31 PM

A friend of mine is a plant manager at a large manufacturer. On Friday evening, someone used an office bathroom, flushed the urinal, and was the last to leave the plant. The urinal somehow got clogged and never stopped flushing.

It flooded the entire floor of the plant over the weekend, the building is just under 100 yards in length. Estimating somewhere around $40k in damage.

My friend is currently annoyed.

2/26/2014 1:02:41 PM

@puck_it: Rarely do I laugh out loud when reading shit online, but the "suck their tits dry" comment had me cleaning my screen. Classic.

If I didn't have a wife who nursed both of our kids, I'd think it was ridiculous for women to pump at work.

But I know better now. If you don't pump on a regular basis, you can get mastitis; which is a real mother fucker. My wife got twice and she had 102 temp, sick as shit.

==
On another note, I used to get bombed and take her breast pump into the bathroom like I was going to milk myself. She wasn't amused.

2/26/2014 1:03:20 PM

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"If I didn't have a wife who nursed both of our kids, I'd think it was ridiculous for women to pump at work."

The issue isn't the need for a woman to pump, it is the scheduling of her pumping durin during peak break room access hours.

2/26/2014 1:16:52 PM

^^^^Restrooms are obviously disqualified but not because they're unsanitary. In fact, they imply that restrooms are sanitary.

And everybody knows about the particles in the air. That was fascinating in elementary school, but then nobody got sick, and hundreds of thousands of mothers pumped in restrooms without a sanitation/hygiene problem.

But, whatever, please keep accusing women of being unsanitary and endangering their children. It's not dishonest at all.

^Nobody really cares about your lunch, dude.

[Edited on February 26, 2014 at 1:17 PM. Reason : LOL]

2/26/2014 1:16:58 PM

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"hundreds of thousands of mothers pumped in restrooms without a sanitation/hygiene problem."

Source?

2/26/2014 1:18:45 PM

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Jay Reagan <jay.reagan@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:

Great, that’s perfectly fine. Thank you!


Response :


Your welcome.

2/26/2014 1:23:04 PM

"She is giving the company HER time."

FALSE! She is getting paid for her time, and she is spending it locked in the break room instead of working. I would have no problem with this if she posted a schedule, but I'd be pretty pissed if I wanted my lunch and it was locked up without notice for an indeterminate amount of time regularly. Hopefully the guy that works at this place can find a diabetic or hypoglycemic coworker to convince HR to make her set and keep a schedule.

2/26/2014 1:23:27 PM

Employer is not obligated to pay for time spent nursing.

2/26/2014 1:24:25 PM

Then why doesn't she have a set schedule to track this time and not annoy everyone?

2/26/2014 1:27:24 PM

i fucking hate paying for people to take a shit, that is company time and NOT personal time!!!

2/26/2014 1:28:23 PM

When I have to take a shit, I try to wait till I get to work,

so I can get paid for that shit.

2/26/2014 1:33:46 PM

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"Source?"

My brain. It could be millions. I dunno.

Also, I asked an old lady at the gas station this morning.

2/26/2014 1:35:01 PM

^that seems legit

2/26/2014 1:36:51 PM

How does it work in a right to work state? Should someone get bitchy about these things couldnt they just terminate her?

2/26/2014 3:18:06 PM

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"Should someone get bitchy about these things couldnt they just terminate her?"

Terminate a woman because she wants to breastfeed ber newborn baby? Why not just fire all the womenz in NC?! We are all going to have babies and mooch off our employees one day, right ladies?

[Edited on February 26, 2014 at 3:25 PM. Reason : not that you were saying they should fire her, but you know...]

2/26/2014 3:20:11 PM

how again did the working woman do this before we had all the newfangled titty sucking devices? Is there historical data we can reference?

2/26/2014 3:29:50 PM

formula and wet nurses

2/26/2014 3:30:24 PM

Women didn't use to work. Then when they came into the workforce, they stopped breastfeeding.

2/26/2014 3:32:06 PM

[Edited on February 26, 2014 at 3:36 PM. Reason : dtwral had a reasonable answer, though]

2/26/2014 3:35:53 PM

those goddamn newboard babies

[Edited on February 26, 2014 at 4:06 PM. Reason : man why you have to edit that gem out NCSUHippie]

2/26/2014 3:40:18 PM

Quote :

"Women didn't use to work. Then when they came into the workforce, they stopped breastfeeding."

Yep. Breastfeeding rates dropped to 20% in the US.

2/26/2014 4:05:37 PM

One of my coworkers goes three buttons down on his shirts and has a gigantic forest of grey hair hanging out everywhere daily. It's fucking ridiculous.

2/26/2014 4:44:16 PM

ew his baby must hate breastfeeding

2/26/2014 6:03:44 PM

haha Meg wins this page

2/27/2014 4:46:13 PM

So again today right at 5:00, the break room was locked up where my dinner was (leftovers from lunch). As soon as Mrs. Neika finished approx 5:10 leaving to go home, myself and 3 other engineers were filed in to finally grab our stuff so we could go home.......

Why could she not fucking wait to drive home and give her baby the goodness in person

2/27/2014 9:26:53 PM

I'm assuming your break room has tables? She seems to be pretty predictable. I would get in there and camp out five minute before she comes in.

2/27/2014 9:38:00 PM

Yeah I was on board when it was about lunch. Now I'm just jealous that you get to leave at 5

2/27/2014 9:49:24 PM

TEN WHOLE MINUTES?!?!?!?!?!?!

WHAT A BITCH

grow up, man

[Edited on February 27, 2014 at 9:54 PM. Reason : grab your shit at 4:50 or use an ice pack if it's that big of a deal]

2/27/2014 9:53:40 PM

oh wait...debate has moved on to 5:00...

I'm totally against this woman

don't be monopolizing public rooms at peak hours for your own private purposes... especially not on a regular basis

even if your private purpose is to milk your breasts

I mean, I got no problem with her using the break room to drain her titties...but she should be considerate enough not to do it at lunch...that's just baldly, almost deliberately inconsiderate

/m2c

[Edited on February 27, 2014 at 10:29 PM. Reason : kjydtjsth]

2/27/2014 10:01:20 PM

Really, what is HUR problem?

2/27/2014 10:23:58 PM

the office should be considerate to her breastfeeding needs... it's not an easy task for all mothers.

that being said, she should make efforts to not inconvenience the entire staff.

2/27/2014 11:18:41 PM

^ I'll agree with this. It almost sounds as if she is deliberately trying to inconvenience people

2/28/2014 12:17:01 AM

Why don't they just go to the break room 5 minutes before her

2/28/2014 6:32:05 AM

Workplace annoyance: when someone takes the break room door off its hinges so I can't lock myself inside.

2/28/2014 7:33:04 AM

Right now...workplace annoyance is opening this thread and seeing a 2 page discourse on breastfeeding.

2/28/2014 8:08:45 AM

The gradebook program slows to a crawl on days that progress reports and report cards are finalized.

2/28/2014 8:52:58 AM

I just want yall to know I am pumping in the bathroom right now. Someone two stalls over just farted.

2/28/2014 10:30:41 AM

Airborne poop particles at high velocity!

2/28/2014 10:33:26 AM

i let women use my office to pump their breasts

makes me a hero of sorts

2/28/2014 12:47:25 PM

when did this thread turn into the breast milk etiquette thread tho

3/4/2014 8:07:40 AM

on two hour delay today. get up, take shower, get dressed, pack lunch, turn on news... oh school is canceled now

3/4/2014 8:22:38 AM

manager sent out mass text message asking for everyone to let her know what their plans are today as far as coming in. People are texting back saying they're in the office... Okay... so how were the roads? The rest of us could some some information here

3/4/2014 8:39:54 AM

My direct manager always cuts me off and doesn't let me finish when I'm talking about something or explaining something. He just says "I don't need an explanation. I already did it." or "I don't care.....blah blah blah.". That and/or he'll just walk away as I'm talking to him.

IT'S RIDICULOUS.

3/4/2014 9:21:25 PM