dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
Honestly think we'll be higher than 21. But yes. All aboard the hype train 10/8/2017 8:12:31 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
CHOO CHOOO
FINLEY FOR HEISMAN 10/8/2017 8:50:07 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
17 or bust 10/8/2017 10:51:09 AM |
Demathis1 All American 4364 Posts user info edit post |
20 10/8/2017 1:21:28 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
the way we make this work is we lose to nd and beat clemson
then even if we drop @wake we can still win the acc 10/8/2017 1:36:48 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
win out then lose to UVA in the championship game 10/8/2017 1:42:25 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
Here is what is going to happen, we're going to win out and then lose to one win UNC in the finale. 10/8/2017 2:13:26 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
If Fedora hasn't switched to "beat state no matter what" mode yet, he's an idiot. 10/8/2017 6:05:06 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
If it was in Chapel Hill I could see that but not in CF this season. 10/8/2017 6:19:14 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
Wake, ND, and Clemson worry me.
Pitt, UNC, and BC do not. and that's not because i'm suddenly super confident in our team and program. but those 3 teams are just not good at all. 10/9/2017 7:15:26 AM |
SSS All American 3646 Posts user info edit post |
That's precisely why they should worry you. 10/9/2017 8:35:43 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
true 10/9/2017 10:01:31 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
Dang apparently Brock Miller is out for the season and Riley Nicholson is DONE with football after 2nd concussion. Sucks for those 2 guys.
Super thin on defense behind dline 10/9/2017 12:22:32 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^I think we have some LBs that we were hoping to RS if we really need to burn one or more.
Losing the experience will definitely hurt though. 10/9/2017 12:31:01 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
We need some losses by VT and especially Miami coming up. An Orange bid would make me never question DD again.
Even if we're at 3 losses w/ ND and Clemson, we'd hopefully get the Citrus, at least.
I just want to see us in a bowl we've never been good enough for. And not one with a dumbass name like the TaxSlayer Bowl. It sounds bush league.
[Edited on October 9, 2017 at 7:01 PM. Reason : G] 10/9/2017 6:57:55 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
We just need to take care of business. That's it. 10/9/2017 7:02:11 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
We need VT and Miami with as few losses as possible going into the ACC championship game. It is already going to be difficult to break the top 4 with 1 loss. 10/9/2017 7:08:57 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
These rankings don't matter to me. It's the bowls that matter. That's the $ and prestige. And I want something we've never seen before. I want a SEC or Big 10 team that's not an also-ran nothing. Even a PAC 12 matchup in the Sun is more appealing. That's a conference we never play. Just please for the love of god no AAC team or another Charlotte trip.
^ how does that not put us at a disadvantage for the bowls we're competing for if they're at 1 loss? Get this Playoff shit out of here.
[Edited on October 9, 2017 at 7:12 PM. Reason : J] 10/9/2017 7:11:13 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
Thats irrelevant. Our goal is to win out and go to the playoff. If we win the ACC, we are locked into a top bowl and if we lose to Clemson, but win our other games, we will likely be in the new years 6 at large. If we lose to Clemson and another game in addition to that, then we shouldn't want to play against another good team to lose against in a bowl so its moot. 10/9/2017 7:19:39 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
^exsctly. We need whoever we defeat in the acc championship game (Miami or Vt), to be as highly ranked as possible, so we can slip into the playoff.
[Edited on October 9, 2017 at 7:31 PM. Reason : Especially now that our Fsu win isn't looking as hot with their suckyness] 10/9/2017 7:30:14 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
10/9/2017 7:48:28 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
I'm gonna call it right now, regardless of who it is, if the ACC champion has 1 loss, they'll be in the playoffs.
Miami and VT still have to play each other. And they both still have to play GT and UVA (who isn't completely terrible this year!) And Miami has to play ND as well. I seriously doubt VT runs the table even though their schedule is pretty soft. They haven't impressed me much this year. Miami just lost their #1RB for the season, so that will definitely hurt them, but IMO they're still the team to beat in the coastal. I think it's pretty realistic to think that the coastal winner will have at least 2 losses. Honestly, the coastal race has very, very little bearing on our bowl prospects. If we win out with the exception of Clemson we'll get a very, very, very good bowl. If we lose 3 games we'll still end up in one of the top ACC bowls. If things implode we'll end up in Birmingham or whatever. 10/9/2017 7:59:03 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
When things implode we'll end up in Birmingham or whatever.
FIFY 10/9/2017 8:07:14 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
https://vimeo.com/237486064 10/9/2017 9:07:28 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
This is why we can't have nice things. We're looking good, we're playing on both sides of the ball better than we have since 2002, maybe even 1992 if you adjust for our schedule and the strength of the ACC this year. So of course rather than aim for what could ACTUALLY happen beyond our wildest dreams last year, we aim for something that won't happen just to set us up for disappointment because you people are addicted to failing.
Even if we win out, it's gonna be Bama, 2 Big 10s, and a Big 12 team.
We are going to lose between 2 and 3 games and we need to play for our best outcome within those parameters.
If we're up against a 2 loss VT and a 2 loss Miami, we could fight for the Orange Bowl. That's a BFD. So we need them to lose.
If it's 3 or more losses, we'll end up in Charlotte playing whatever Butch Jones assistant is in there after he's fired.
[Edited on October 9, 2017 at 9:35 PM. Reason : H] 10/9/2017 9:32:16 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
lmao you should be a motivational speaker 10/9/2017 10:07:24 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Even if we win out, it's gonna be Bama, 2 Big 10s, and a Big 12 team. " |
Nope.10/9/2017 10:22:41 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm gonna call it right now, regardless of who it is, if the ACC champion has 1 loss, they'll be in the playoffs." |
yup
Quote : | "This is why we can't have nice things. We're looking good, we're playing on both sides of the ball better than we have since 2002, maybe even 1992 if you adjust for our schedule and the strength of the ACC this year. So of course rather than aim for what could ACTUALLY happen beyond our wildest dreams last year, we aim for something that won't happen just to set us up for disappointment because you people are addicted to failing." |
nah. seriously we're gonna be underdogs to Clemson. and probably slight underdogs @ND. it'd be a major upset to knock off Clemson, but ND isn't significantly better than us. is it day dreaming? of course. but it's not that unrealistic to a see a scenario where we go 10-2 or something. and if we're that good, then we can talk about the playoff. why the hell not.
Quote : | " Even if we win out, it's gonna be Bama, 2 Big 10s, and a Big 12 team. " |
plenty of football left to be played and any of those teams could lose a game along the way, and if we beat Clemson we'll have one of the most impressive wins of any team in the discussion.
Quote : | "We are going to lose between 2 and 3 games and we need to play for our best outcome within those parameters." |
no, we need to play for the best outcome...period. nobody's guaranteeing any wins, we all know we could easily lose to Pitt on Saturday. but c'mon...have a little fun and enjoy it a little. none of us are considering this season a failure if we only go 9-3.
Quote : | "If we're up against a 2 loss VT and a 2 loss Miami, we could fight for the Orange Bowl. That's a BFD. So we need them to lose. " |
if we actually play in the ACCCG it isn't gonna matter what how many losses VT or Miami have. we're gonna be in a very very very good bowl regardless.10/10/2017 7:02:32 AM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
Given the most likely scenarios, losses by Miami and VT benefit our Bowl standing. Cut and dry. End of story. You're going to be left with your dick in your hands at the Bad Boy 4 Life St Pete Bowl if you're thinking "BRING IT ON BAMA." 10/10/2017 7:32:23 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
^ I thought you got suspended? 10/10/2017 8:16:40 AM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
I did. I'm just still posting using astral projection. Obviously. 10/10/2017 8:23:58 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Are we really bitching about winning out and missing the CFP?
You're telling me you're going to be disappointed if this team manages to win out, beating at least 2 ranked teams(potentially 3rd in ACCCG), wins the Atlantic Division, and goes to a great bowl just because the CFP slights us(they won't, but you have to be bitching to bitch)? Please, GTFO.
We aren't going to win out. I don't think anyone in the ACC is going undefeated in conference play. We can lose an ACC game and beat Clemson and still win the Atlantic.
Who gives a flying fuck about the CFP? If we manage to make and win the ACCCG and we've only lost 1 game(fucking South Carolina), at THAT point I'll be a little concerned about the CFP. But fuck moping about that shit now.
Plus the CFP is designed to have recency bias, so winning @ND, beating Clemson, potentially beating Miami/VT, that would hold a LOT more water than a week 1 loss on a neutral site to a healthy South Carolina team. 10/10/2017 8:35:46 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
How would the ND loss count? Does it affect our chances in the Atlantic? 10/10/2017 8:37:40 AM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
ND is OOC 10/10/2017 8:41:27 AM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
Lotta guys gonna be beating their meat and failing to ejaculate outside BOA Stadium in December...for the Belks Bowl.
[Edited on October 10, 2017 at 8:45 AM. Reason : H] 10/10/2017 8:44:39 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
A little bit of success and people completely forget that this is still NC State we are talking about here. One game at a time guys, one game at a time. Remember how the other seasons we were feeling this way turned out? We need to take care of Pitt this week. ND is probably the most important game on our schedule left right now regarding bowl games. Assume we are going to lose to Clemson and not win the Atlantic right now. After those 3 games then we can reevaluate the season potential again. 10/10/2017 9:03:14 AM |
sgb Veteran 415 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck that. I'm evaluating right now.
Bama has flaws and we are gonna beat the shit out of them. No other game on the schedule except that one matters. 10/10/2017 9:08:50 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
one game at a time is for the players and coaches. fans always have and always will be able to look ahead. it impacts nothing.
Quote : | "Given the most likely scenarios, losses by Miami and VT benefit our Bowl standing. Cut and dry. End of story. You're going to be left with your dick in your hands at the Bad Boy 4 Life St Pete Bowl if you're thinking "BRING IT ON BAMA."" |
win all the games that remain and let the rest sort itself out. winning out benefits our bowl standing far more than what the Coastal division does.
[Edited on October 10, 2017 at 9:17 AM. Reason : f]10/10/2017 9:15:47 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/-band-of-brothers-setting-the-tone-for-prolific-wolfpack-offense/17006468/ 10/10/2017 12:52:30 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^These stories and the play of our OL the last 2 years is going to make it REALLY tough to hang onto Ledford. 10/10/2017 1:28:40 PM |
stillrolling All American 1225 Posts user info edit post |
Joey Galloway showing the Pack some love on ESPN's Playoff Top 25 show. Basically said look out for this team. Would be in by winning out and beating up on the soft opponents. 10/10/2017 7:28:52 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
I know we are a long way off from championship showdown with bama( when is game, january?) But how do we for real matchup with them? Their players always look way bigger than ours when I see them play on the TV's. It's probably just my inferiority complex though. Our players are probably similarly sized.
[Edited on October 10, 2017 at 10:41 PM. Reason : Excited] 10/10/2017 10:40:46 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Bama would beat us 16-0. 10/10/2017 10:42:45 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
bamas d can't shut us down and we would stop their run. ridley would get 200+ yards receiving and we would probably lose 35-21 10/10/2017 10:52:40 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
HOOPS creeps in and acts like he wasn't shitting on us with his alias yesterday 10/10/2017 11:07:16 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20944842/penn-state-nittany-lions-rb-saquon-barkley-leads-2017-espn-college-football-midseason-all-american-team
Samuels and Chubb both on ESPN's midseason All-American list.
Chubb also listed as their midseason pick for Defensive PotY
Quote : | "it's not that unrealistic to a see a scenario where we go 10-2 or something. and if we're that good, then we can talk about the playoff." |
How likely is any 2-loss team to make the CFP? I don't see it happening this year. There will be a slew of 1-loss teams that don't get in.
I think the Citrus Bowl is realistic if we're 10-2, given how good the B10 is and the likelihood they'll get an Orange Bowl invite (if I'm understanding the selection criteria correctly). Clemson will play in the Sugar Bowl, whoever loses to Clemson in the ACCC will go to the Orange.
[Edited on October 11, 2017 at 12:54 AM. Reason : -]10/11/2017 12:38:10 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
^ no. i mean if we're talking about realistically going 10-2, then we're pretty fucking close to 11-1. in which case a team CFP talk isn't completely loony. i wasn't saying as a 10-2 team we'd make it. if we're saying 10-2 is on the table, then 11-1 isn't that far fetched.
[Edited on October 11, 2017 at 6:56 AM. Reason : v] 10/11/2017 6:55:16 AM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "HOOPS creeps in and acts like he wasn't shitting on us with his alias yesterday " |
Excusssee me? I have only posted in this thread as myself. What user do you think is an alias? I have also only been positive about football this year. I've never watched a better, more disciplined team in all my 25ish years of watching Nc state football.10/11/2017 7:21:46 AM |
SSS All American 3646 Posts user info edit post |
I cringe every time I see anything about winning out, making the playoffs, Orange Bowl, etc. You all know NC State athletics. I just want us to get past Pitt and focus on one game at a time. 10/11/2017 8:42:08 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
When we lose to Pitt Saturday, this thread is really going to look comical. 10/11/2017 9:18:39 AM |