I actually support most of the stuff they demanded as part of their concessions, if it could be divorced from the villainous cast of characters behind it. (the main thing I don't support is increasing their committee representation, which is due to who they are).

I just think that these particular characters are traitorous douchebag morons and are far more likely to do vastly more harm than good, having been given this leverage.

1/7/2023 11:28:39 PM

^i agree. I hope he is constantly challenged for speakership now

1/7/2023 11:52:29 PM

Seriously. I wouldn't mind not having all of these massive 80k page pieces of legislation floating around, or the speaker determining every little fat that happens on the floor. But letting these assholes in on that?

1/8/2023 2:42:25 PM

With regard to the House Republicans voting to rescind the recent IRS funding or at some point implementing the Holman rule, those would both require passage in the Senate, right?

1/10/2023 12:28:07 PM

Similarly, if House Republicans demand that any increase to the debt ceiling be offset by cuts to Medicare and Social Security, there's no alternative resolution, is there?

We're either going to cut spending for those programs or default on our debt?

1/11/2023 10:54:27 AM

Defaulting will be a lot of fun for retirement plan participants. Democrats should have gotten rid of the debt ceiling when they had control or kicked the can WAY down the road. Get ready for some economic brinksmanship that probably at best ends up with another credit rating downgrade. I hope I'm wrong.

1/11/2023 11:18:35 AM

These jokers need to have a serious talk with George Santos about his wardrobe choices. This shot is inexcusable

1/11/2023 6:56:21 PM

Here we go with the debt limit brinksmanship. . .

1/13/2023 1:54:31 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/16/us/albuquerque-democrat-officials-shootings-arrest.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Quote :

"Republican Ex-Candidate Arrested in Shootings Targeting New Mexico Democrats The authorities in Albuquerque said that Solomon Peña, who lost his bid for a State House seat in November, was behind a series of recent shootings targeting Democratic elected officials."

1/17/2023 11:04:55 AM

my favorite party!!!

1/17/2023 12:40:50 PM

^^https://www.vice.com/en/article/5d3vkx/solomon-pena-arrest-new-mexico

Quote :

"“Peña is accused of conspiring with, and paying four other men to shoot at the homes of 2 county commissioners and 2 state legislators,” Medina said. Peña paid four other men to conduct the drive-by shootings at or near the homes of the four lawmakers in December and early January, and investigators believe he was present during at least one of the shootings, Medina said."

1/17/2023 2:32:11 PM

Allow me to introduce to you George "Kitara" Santos:



https://twitter.com/MarisaKabas/status/1615808517176234020

1/18/2023 8:31:42 PM

So... he's bad because he's into drag?

1/18/2023 9:03:10 PM

He's certainly wildly hypocritical to run as a republican

1/18/2023 9:05:49 PM

Pretty certain that was quite true before this showed up

1/18/2023 10:05:45 PM

^^^Nope. He's bad because he's into drag AND promotes homophobic and transphobic bullshit. Not hard to comprehend if you make some effort, honestly.

1/18/2023 10:49:03 PM

^^Ok, I'm not sure your point. Another thing to add to the pile

[Edited on January 18, 2023 at 10:49 PM. Reason : E]

1/18/2023 10:49:08 PM

Quote :

"He's bad because he's into drag AND promotes homophobic and transphobic bullshit."

You mean was? That pic is from 2008. I have done many things in the past I regret doing and hate myself for doing them, JUST LIKE ANY HUMAN BEING.

Are there any recent pics of him in drag?

He is a shitty human, period. His pics from 0.15 centuries ago showing him doing things that he deplores now is meaningless. (unless he is still secretly like that)

1/19/2023 2:02:43 AM

^I really don't care if there are recent pics of him in drag or if he's still into drag or not. Irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.

I try not to overthink it; he's not worth it. He doesn't deserve the benefit of any doubt at this point.

1/19/2023 2:11:50 AM

Isn’t the current Republican Party position that any and all drag is solely for the purpose of grooming young children for sexual exploitation? He should be asked if indeed he used to be into grooming children for sexual exploitation

1/19/2023 8:23:33 AM

https://newrepublic.com/post/170436/florida-school-district-bans-handmaids-tale-new-book-ban

the party of book banning

2/7/2023 1:09:52 PM

Lol, Sarah Huckabee Sanders said you are either on the side of normal or the side of crazy. Yes...

2/8/2023 3:12:40 PM

She looks crazy.

2/8/2023 3:30:17 PM

I mean, she is...

I've been chuckling at these turdbuckets getting their pants in a wad over Biden letting the one balloon pass completely over the US, and then claiming he's been too trigger happy with the next set.

2/14/2023 9:30:31 PM

https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1630664192133832740

Ron Desantis -->

Quote :

""I signed legislation to end Disney’s self-governing status, placed the area in state receivership, and appointed 5 members to a state control board. Disney no longer has its own government, will live under the same laws as everyone else and pay its debts and fair share of taxes.""

Amash -->

Quote :

""Under this new scheme, Disney does not live under the same laws as everyone else. Walt Disney World is as big as a city, but it now has governor-appointed board members to manage local operations instead of local representation. Sets a terrible precedent that hurts conservatives.""

--

Ignoring the politically vengeful reasons behind the Disney crusade, Amash has an interesting point here on the topic of the governance of the area in general. Wolf in sheep's clothing for the "small govt" crowd that may support this

2/28/2023 7:31:54 PM

https://www.wfla.com/news/politics/florida-bill-would-require-bloggers-who-write-about-governor-to-register-with-the-state/

I honestly have no idea how anyone in 2023 can vote Republican

3/2/2023 5:58:54 PM

Well to be fair choosing your side based on their color is perfectly alright
although some argue choosing the GOP cause of the color red makes you a R.I.N.O

on a serious note, I have no clue about this particular State Senator's influence, but you can't always take a bill introduced in a State Legislature, or hell even the House, seriously. All kinds of random BS is done by all kinds of state legislators, you'd be surprised



[Edited on March 2, 2023 at 11:45 PM. Reason : .]

3/2/2023 11:39:59 PM

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2023/04/06/tennessee-expulsion-vote-democrats-justin-jones-gloria-johnson-justin-pearson/70079929007/

4/6/2023 10:14:10 PM

I wonder why they chose to expel two young black men and kept the old white woman for the same minor infraction? Hmm. . .

4/7/2023 7:46:25 AM

I wonder why they expelled anyone for it.

I mean, my politics don't align with theirs, and certainly not on the issue of gun control, but that's bullshit to expel them for this. Censure or something, maybe, but not expel.

4/7/2023 10:30:07 PM

Funny cause you'd think it'd draw some comparison to what some republicans did on Jan 6th...

4/7/2023 10:35:24 PM

The tree of liberty must be refreshed time to time with the blood of school children and school teachers. It is its natural manure.

-Thomas Jefferson

4/8/2023 6:00:32 AM

^^ actually these fuckers are calling the ones they expelled "insurrectionists" and saying that it's as bad or worse than Jan 6th.

Like, I'm not a big fan of gun control or Congressmen acting the fool, but (a) this is orders of magnitude less than Jan 6th, (b), I'll bet that these TN Republicans defend the Jan 6th offenders while attacking the 3 TN Dems, and (c), as much as I loathe Democrats, it's the GOP who leads the way in acting the fool.

4/8/2023 10:34:00 PM

Yeah, it is sad how the GOP basically has no policy left so they've resorted to just a BS culture war
I wonder what the long term strategy of this is cause I don't see any

and these expulsions are absolutely disgusting
those on the fence will either be forced further into it or pushed out

I too say this as someone who also doesn't align with the dem line on guns

[Edited on April 9, 2023 at 1:09 AM. Reason : .]

4/9/2023 1:04:15 AM

culture war, and bullshit maneuvering like these expulsions, or voter suppression, etc.

I mean, I think most people are profoundly ignorant morons and due to that, shouldn't vote...but I also don't think voting should be impeded in a weaponized, partisan way.

4/9/2023 1:49:31 AM

the worst part is how normalized it is
at least to me, like I only really started really seeing stuff in 2016-2017ish and this is just what I'm used to
so inside like I don't even feel much about it cause it is just the standard rhetoric

4/9/2023 1:51:22 AM

For real Jefferson said that?

4/9/2023 1:54:01 AM

Jefferson was a big proponent of education for children, so you could say that he caused this

4/9/2023 1:56:40 AM

"Thanks, JEFFERSON!"

4/9/2023 7:59:11 AM

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-another-blow-lawmaker-leaves-party-switches-republican

4/11/2023 10:02:47 AM

So this is part of a strategic plan, right? It can't be just a coincidence, right?

4/11/2023 10:12:33 AM

Quote :

"It can't be just a coincidence, right?"

Could be neither; could be as simple as politicians needing attention. Each of these defectors gets news coverage where normally they'd be invisible.

A grand GOP plot isn't out of the realm of possibility, but I'm not sure what the endgame is. It'd also be hard to keep a scheme like that secret across multiple states.

4/11/2023 3:31:48 PM

Short term it helps them pass legislation, but none of these candidates will get re-elected.

4/11/2023 6:19:01 PM

they’ve always been the party of short term gains

4/11/2023 6:50:36 PM

Maybe they realized the beauty of President Trump's message

Course you dumb libtards couldn't comprehend that with your closed minds

4/11/2023 8:16:45 PM

https://heartlandsignal.com/2023/04/11/missouri-house-republicans-vote-to-defund-libraries/

4/11/2023 9:06:37 PM

Quote :

"Short term it helps them pass legislation, but none of these candidates will get re-elected. "

To the first part, sure. I see the obvious upside in getting individual democrats to switch, particularly when it grants supermajorities. But I have a harder time seeing the advantage in coordinating these switches so they happen around the same time. Maybe if you were going to build some big "People are leaving the Democrats in droves!" PR campaign like they tried a couple of years ago, but it didn't work then, and they don't seem to be doing it now.

The second part, maybe. No doubt the GOP enticed them with something - the possibility of a redrawn, friendly district, or a position in a hypothetical GOP administration, or just some cushy private sector job. I bet we see at least one of these three elected, either in a redrawn district or just a new one.

Quote :

"they’ve always been the party of short term gains"

Let's not sit here and act like the Democrats are better. Everyone is doing what they think they have to do to gain an edge in the next election. If anything, the Republicans are more farsighted, at least on strategy; they were playing statehouse and court chess while Democrats were playing...I don't know, some kind of dumb ass checkers.

The only political entities in this country that might think beyond the next cycle or two are on the far left, and we can see what that gets them. Say what you will about a communist, but at least they're playing the long game.

As someone who has transitioned into being a full-on pinko over the past few years, I admit it gives me a certain relief to realize that my dreams are likely a generation or more away from being close to reality. It means there's way less pressure than I felt as a Republican, whose nightmare vision might be realized any day, if we just kept working at it.

4/12/2023 8:42:33 AM

GrumpyCommie

I would be interested to hear more about the circumstances of your political transition. I'm also reformed. But I don't think I'm a communist yet.

4/12/2023 9:05:18 AM

I was a Trump supporter in 2017
but mostly for the memes

got into that whole intellectual dark horse movement with ben shapiro / jordan in 2018
escaped it pretty quick, thank God

now I like watching youtube videos about infrastructure and NBC news

4/12/2023 10:24:28 AM

Quote :

" Let's not sit here and act like the Democrats are better. Everyone is doing what they think they have to do to gain an edge in the next election. If anything, the Republicans are more farsighted, at least on strategy; they were playing statehouse and court chess while Democrats were playing...I don't know, some kind of dumb ass checkers."

I’m talking more about policy, i.e. the dismantling of regulations, refusal to invest in infrastructure, ignoring the catastrophe that is climate change, etc…

that’s all connected, of course, but the Right only cares about short term profits and could give a shit about long term harm

4/12/2023 4:03:27 PM